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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,962 Views)
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jim62
12 Sep 2017, 11:39 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 10:28 PM
Ned Rise
12 Sep 2017, 10:04 PM
Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.

We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.

And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on

He has been let down in summer and he knows who by

Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one

Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap

Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo

This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana

No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing

He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Can you expand on the way he has been let down

Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it??

Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached??

Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL
He hates Lawwell. Every negative result he will try to suggest is Lawwells fault. He can't help himself. He once said on here that he knew plenty of millionaires desperate to invest in Celtic but they won't because of Lawwell. He also suggested our medical department was being so stream lined by Lawwell that injuries were not being treated properly. Last year when we failed to sign that guy who plays in America ( can't remember his name) he just happens to go on a business trip to America were he meets people involved in the transfer saga and discovers it was the board (Lawwell) who eff'd up the negotiations by not offering the right money.

Now he's hinting that Lawwell isn't backing Brendan. Run of the mill stuff form him.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM

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If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out.

He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work.
The problem is, if you are going with Roberts and Sinclair then you need full back support for them otherwise they just get crowded out and that's exactly what happened. I'd at least understand going with them because you (rightly or wrongly) want to have a go at them but we didn't even do that. It was just a clustereff.
In the first half Tierney went beyond Sinclair many times. He then proceeded to hit a succession of aimless/pish crosses which, had it been Izaguirre, would have seen him being slaughtered.

The CL is still a massive step up for Tierney. Like many he hasn't convinced. Plenty of time for him though.
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sevilliano
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Can you expand on the way he has been let down

Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it??

Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached??

Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL
Yes signing targets at CB were not delivered and not the South African

Izzy was sold

This is just the usual transfer window crapshoot presided over by one man

And the real football professional has been let down

But do you think any of them who've let this happen give a flying one - no

If they thought we needed nothing after Astana it tells you how dim they are
I had thought BR had the backing of DD....is that wrong

Any specific names for CBs

did BR want to keep Izzy ??

Apologies for all the questions and appreciate you may not wish to respond publicly but I'm sure there are many like me who had assumed that BR was now in a position of strength unlike any recent manager with regard to spending/recruitment ??
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12 Sep 2017, 11:49 PM
Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
That's just bollocks.

We defended excellently that night. Forster was a massive part of that, but he was just a part, not the sole reason.
We also scored two goals FFS :lol:
If Gordon or De Vries were in goals that night it'd have been about 6-2 to Barca. You can't honestly think otherwise.
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Would it be fair to say he has been in charge of 3 of our worst ever results? Biggest home defeat in Europe biggest away defeat in Europe and the Red Imp nonsense. Don’t get me wrong I could justify all 3 of them, just a weird thing
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We also scored two goals FFS :lol:
If Gordon or De Vries were in goals that night it'd have been about 6-2 to Barca. You can't honestly think otherwise.
They weren't so it doesn't matter.
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We also scored two goals FFS :lol:
If Gordon or De Vries were in goals that night it'd have been about 6-2 to Barca. You can't honestly think otherwise.
So we lost tonight because of Craig Gordon?
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12 Sep 2017, 11:46 PM
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12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brendan= good, Lawwell = bad.

I hear you :thumbsup:
Lawwell and his project delia with delia subservient - a total balls up - a football and financial disaster

A manager in bringing in his players first year with power - an undefeated treble and a reasonable performance in the cl

Next January transfer window and manager said targets not delivered

And as you well know targets not delivered again in summer and clueless saying we have enough

So our manager who is good more than good is casting around trying to find a back 4 out of kids and switching positions

So yes if you want to reduce it to terms which are clear

It's primarily lawwells fault yet again
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Poor in so many aspects tonight

I'll make 3 "controversial" points

1.) Rodgers in naive
2.) Izzaguite "got" European football while KT is getting done
3.) Gordon is no better than Rab Douglas. We need a keeper.


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Welp he is human. Needs to learn how to shampoofest/ in general creating a more solid shape and style of play vs better teams. Thats one of the reasons Mourinho is so successful. If not then we'll get pumped by Bayern at home with people saying 'thats the best team ive seen at parkhead' again.
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If Gordon or De Vries were in goals that night it'd have been about 6-2 to Barca. You can't honestly think otherwise.
So we lost tonight because of Craig Gordon?
No. I didn't say or imply that. We'd have lost that Barca game though if he was in goals. People are too quick to clamour for us to setup similar to that game yet don't take into consideration that we gave up lots of chances and if not for one of the best performances ever by a Celtic goalie we would've got beaten fairly comfortably.

We set up the same way against AC Milan and Juve and got gubbed 3-0 each time. Barca was a freak, once in a lifetime thing which is why it was so special.
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"It's Lawell's fault"
Ffs! Same old garbage every time (not very often) we have a bad result.
PSG sign players for over a hundred million pounds and pay them about £250k a week.
We can afford to pay five million pounds for players and pay them about £30k a week.
Yeah, that's Lawell's fault right enough!
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jim62
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12 Sep 2017, 11:48 PM
jim62
12 Sep 2017, 11:39 PM

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Yes signing targets at CB were not delivered and not the South African

Izzy was sold

This is just the usual transfer window crapshoot presided over by one man

And the real football professional has been let down

But do you think any of them who've let this happen give a flying one - no

If they thought we needed nothing after Astana it tells you how dim they are
I had thought BR had the backing of DD....is that wrong

Any specific names for CBs

did BR want to keep Izzy ??

Apologies for all the questions and appreciate you may not wish to respond publicly but I'm sure there are many like me who had assumed that BR was now in a position of strength unlike any recent manager with regard to spending/recruitment ??
Last year someone tried to punt Jozo. Doesn't appear to have been Rodgers as he put him in the team straightaway.

Did we decide to take the money for Izzy or did he ask to leave? If he has been here, Tierney could have filled in at right back as he has done with Scotland. We'd have been stronger immediately.

We probably wouldn't have been anywhere near taking something from the game but we may well have came out of it with a more respectable scoreline.
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13 Sep 2017, 12:10 AM
"It's Lawell's fault"
Ffs! Same old garbage every time (not very often) we have a bad result.
PSG sign players for over a hundred million pounds and pay them about £250k a week.
We can afford to pay five million pounds for players and pay them about £30k a week.
Yeah, that's Lawell's fault right enough!
Money doesn't win football games.

Maybe if we'd paid five million we'd have better players than Ralston at RB, Lustig at CB and Armstrong at CM?
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So we lost tonight because of Craig Gordon?
No. I didn't say or imply that. We'd have lost that Barca game though if he was in goals. People are too quick to clamour for us to setup similar to that game yet don't take into consideration that we gave up lots of chances and if not for one of the best performances ever by a Celtic goalie we would've got beaten fairly comfortably.

We set up the same way against AC Milan and Juve and got gubbed 3-0 each time. Barca was a freak, once in a lifetime thing which is why it was so special.
The milan game fair enough, though our quality of player at that point under lenny was brutal. But Juve, similar quality to PSG, were pretty lucky for that scoreline, ambrose had a nightmare, we missed chances and had 2 stonewall penalty shouts turned down. Whereas tonight we were lucky to lose 5-0.
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"It's Lawell's fault"
Ffs! Same old garbage every time (not very often) we have a bad result.
PSG sign players for over a hundred million pounds and pay them about £250k a week.
We can afford to pay five million pounds for players and pay them about £30k a week.
Yeah, that's Lawell's fault right enough!
Money doesn't win football games.

Maybe if we'd paid five million we'd have better players than Ralston at RB, Lustig at CB and Armstrong at CM?
"Money doesn't win football games"
That's the best one I've heard since "the titles were won on the pitch"
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"It's Lawell's fault"
Ffs! Same old garbage every time (not very often) we have a bad result.
PSG sign players for over a hundred million pounds and pay them about £250k a week.
We can afford to pay five million pounds for players and pay them about £30k a week.
Yeah, that's Lawell's fault right enough!
We paid less than 5million for the entire defence, including the goalie. In fact if you include our injured centre halves, we'd probably just broke through 5million for the seven players (9 if you include the reserve goalie and Gamboa ).
Edited by Ned Rise, 13 Sep 2017, 12:16 AM.
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We also scored two goals FFS :lol:
If Gordon or De Vries were in goals that night it'd have been about 6-2 to Barca. You can't honestly think otherwise.
Forester being one of those players part of the apparently dismal transfer policy we have pursued.
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No. I didn't say or imply that. We'd have lost that Barca game though if he was in goals. People are too quick to clamour for us to setup similar to that game yet don't take into consideration that we gave up lots of chances and if not for one of the best performances ever by a Celtic goalie we would've got beaten fairly comfortably.

We set up the same way against AC Milan and Juve and got gubbed 3-0 each time. Barca was a freak, once in a lifetime thing which is why it was so special.
The milan game fair enough, though our quality of player at that point under lenny was brutal. But Juve, similar quality to PSG, were pretty lucky for that scoreline, ambrose had a nightmare, we missed chances and had 2 stonewall penalty shouts turned down. Whereas tonight we were lucky to lose 5-0.
Juve werent lucky in the slightest, they utterly took us to pieces over the tie and we offered absolutely nothing in return.
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We set up the same way against AC Milan and Juve and got gubbed 3-0 each time. Barca was a freak, once in a lifetime thing which is why it was so special.
The milan game fair enough, though our quality of player at that point under lenny was brutal. But Juve, similar quality to PSG, were pretty lucky for that scoreline, ambrose had a nightmare, we missed chances and had 2 stonewall penalty shouts turned down. Whereas tonight we were lucky to lose 5-0.
Juve werent lucky in the slightest, they utterly took us to pieces over the tie and we offered absolutely nothing in return.
At CP, Juve gave us the ball which didnt suit us and took theyre chances. We were denied very good penalty shouts. Completely different game to tonight, which was a joke. PSG werent that clinical tbh and played the 2nd half in 3rd gear.
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