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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:35 PM
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Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.
We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.
And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on He has been let down in summer and he knows who by Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Well if the tools aren't up to the job he needs to fall on his sword and use different tactics against teams like these. Camp with two banks of four if need be. He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help
It was a shambles because there was no defence
What was his alternative ajer biton sviatchenko Forrest for Roberts really
Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering
Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant
He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
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12 Sep 2017, 11:39 PM
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Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.
We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.
And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on He has been let down in summer and he knows who by Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools Can you expand on the way he has been let down
Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it??
Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached??
Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL
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12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
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- fatboab
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0. No amount of summer signings
You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings
And we don't strengthen the back line at all
Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have
and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault
Honestly
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12 Sep 2017, 11:42 PM
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Well if the tools aren't up to the job he needs to fall on his sword and use different tactics against teams like these. Camp with two banks of four if need be.
He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help It was a shambles because there was no defence What was his alternative ajer  biton  sviatchenko  Forrest for Roberts really Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan.
Astana away - twice Hapoel Barcelona Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances.
Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results.
Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:44 PM
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I've absolutely no inside knowledge, but it does seem a bit mental that Rodgers and his coaching staff wouldn't know as well as we do that our back 5 simply aren't good enough for this level.
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Joe the Baker
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12 Sep 2017, 11:44 PM
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He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help It was a shambles because there was no defence What was his alternative ajer  biton  sviatchenko  Forrest for Roberts really Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan. Astana away - twice Hapoel Barcelona Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances. Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results. Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad. Tonight, BMG at home last year.
It's worrying.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:46 PM
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings And we don't strengthen the back line at all Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault Honestly Brendan= good, Lawwell = bad.
I hear you
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12 Sep 2017, 11:46 PM
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings And we don't strengthen the back line at all Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault Honestly There's plenty of option he's could have taken if he changed the shape of the side.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:48 PM
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Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.
We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.
And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on He has been let down in summer and he knows who by Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Can you expand on the way he has been let down Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it?? Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached?? Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL Yes signing targets at CB were not delivered and not the South African
Izzy was sold
This is just the usual transfer window crapshoot presided over by one man
And the real football professional has been let down
But do you think any of them who've let this happen give a flying one - no
If they thought we needed nothing after Astana it tells you how dim they are
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12 Sep 2017, 11:49 PM
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Can folk stop with the 'you can't go toe-to-toe with PSG' stuff?
We didn't try to. Our defensive line, our non existent press and lack of team mate support suggested as much.
Exactly. I don't know what game some were watching tonight but we really weren't going at them or anything of the sort. We were just scared of them and played shampoo.
Jack Thaler's post in the post match thread sums up why the pragmatic 'two banks of four' stuff isn't necessarily the answer. Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:49 PM
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I was pretty sure that Forrest would play instead of Roberts to start with as, brilliant as though Paddy is, he offers no protection to his full back. I'm hoping Paddy wasn't promised Champions League starts to convince him to sign
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12 Sep 2017, 11:50 PM
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings And we don't strengthen the back line at all Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault Honestly If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out.
He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work.
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Rodgers for me had 4 big decisions ahead of the game tonight in terms of personnel.
I think he got most of them wrong.
Probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference though in fairness.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:51 PM
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Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight. That's just bollocks.
We defended excellently that night. Forster was a massive part of that, but he was just a part, not the sole reason.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:52 PM
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He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help It was a shambles because there was no defence What was his alternative ajer  biton  sviatchenko  Forrest for Roberts really Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan. Astana away - twice Hapoel Barcelona Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances. Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results. Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad. You're a complete pumpkin
The guy gives us an undefeated treble
Gets us to the cl twice in a row after PLs boy effs up 2 yrs in a row
And it's his fault
Imps gtf
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12 Sep 2017, 11:52 PM
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Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
That's just bollocks. We defended excellently that night. Forster was a massive part of that, but he was just a part, not the sole reason. We also scored two goals FFS
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings And we don't strengthen the back line at all Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault Honestly
If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out. He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work. The problem is, if you are going with Roberts and Sinclair then you need full back support for them otherwise they just get crowded out and that's exactly what happened. I'd at least understand going with them because you (rightly or wrongly) want to have a go at them but we didn't even do that. It was just a clustereff.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:53 PM
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I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan. Astana away - twice Hapoel Barcelona Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances. Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results. Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
You're a complete pumpkin The guy gives us an undefeated treble Gets us to the cl twice in a row after PLs boy effs up 2 yrs in a row And it's his fault Imps  gtf Everything he said was correct.
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings And we don't strengthen the back line at all Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault Honestly
If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out. He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work. Go on then tell us your team and how that would work
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