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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,963 Views)
fatboab
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Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
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Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 10:39 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 10:28 PM
Ned Rise
12 Sep 2017, 10:04 PM
Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.

We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.

And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on

He has been let down in summer and he knows who by

Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one

Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap

Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo

This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana

No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing

He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Well if the tools aren't up to the job he needs to fall on his sword and use different tactics against teams like these.

Camp with two banks of four if need be.
He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help

It was a shambles because there was no defence

What was his alternative ajer :lol: biton :lol: :lol: sviatchenko :lol: Forrest for Roberts really

Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering

Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant

He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 10:28 PM
Ned Rise
12 Sep 2017, 10:04 PM
Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.

We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.

And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on

He has been let down in summer and he knows who by

Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one

Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap

Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo

This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana

No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing

He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Can you expand on the way he has been let down

Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it??

Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached??

Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL
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fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
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12 Sep 2017, 11:35 PM
Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 10:39 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 10:28 PM

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Well if the tools aren't up to the job he needs to fall on his sword and use different tactics against teams like these.

Camp with two banks of four if need be.
He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help

It was a shambles because there was no defence

What was his alternative ajer :lol: biton :lol: :lol: sviatchenko :lol: Forrest for Roberts really

Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering

Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant

He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan.

Astana away - twice
Hapoel
Barcelona
Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances.

Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results.

Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
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I've absolutely no inside knowledge, but it does seem a bit mental that Rodgers and his coaching staff wouldn't know as well as we do that our back 5 simply aren't good enough for this level.
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Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 11:42 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:35 PM
Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 10:39 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help

It was a shambles because there was no defence

What was his alternative ajer :lol: biton :lol: :lol: sviatchenko :lol: Forrest for Roberts really

Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering

Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant

He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan.

Astana away - twice
Hapoel
Barcelona
Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances.

Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results.

Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
Tonight, BMG at home last year.

It's worrying.
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
Brendan= good, Lawwell = bad.

I hear you :thumbsup:
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
There's plenty of option he's could have taken if he changed the shape of the side.

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12 Sep 2017, 11:39 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 10:28 PM
Ned Rise
12 Sep 2017, 10:04 PM
Brendan Rodgers didn't come to Celtic for these kind of results. All of our resources should be on the pitch.

We couldn't get players forward because we were scared of exposing a paper thin defence.

And the fault there doesn't lie with anyone on the pitch or touchline. We failed to back the manager and we're playing with fire if we think he'll stick around to be let down season after season.
This is bang on

He has been let down in summer and he knows who by

Given the number of times we've effed good managers before (and strachan) when they had a chance to progress it would be no surprise if like then we lose another and the best one

Do u think BR and Chris Davies want to see themselves as coaches associated with that crap

Do u think paddy Roberts came back to play in that shampoo

This is a total balls up and it was same in Astana

No one at Celtic is anywhere near the professionalism of BR and he knows what he's doing

He's made Armstrong Sinclair griffiths rogic jozo etc etc much better but he can't perform effin miracles with no tools
Can you expand on the way he has been let down

Were there specific targets who we did not get because of Lawwell interfering/failing rather than player not fancying it??

Saw Jagielka mentioned in a report the other day....was he approached??

Would certainly hate to lose Rodgers on that basis...I.e. him getting pissed off because he is not being supported to the fullest possible extent by the board/PL
Yes signing targets at CB were not delivered and not the South African

Izzy was sold

This is just the usual transfer window crapshoot presided over by one man

And the real football professional has been let down

But do you think any of them who've let this happen give a flying one - no

If they thought we needed nothing after Astana it tells you how dim they are
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12 Sep 2017, 11:26 PM
Can folk stop with the 'you can't go toe-to-toe with PSG' stuff?

We didn't try to. Our defensive line, our non existent press and lack of team mate support suggested as much.
Exactly. I don't know what game some were watching tonight but we really weren't going at them or anything of the sort. We were just scared of them and played shampoo.

Jack Thaler's post in the post match thread sums up why the pragmatic 'two banks of four' stuff isn't necessarily the answer. Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
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I was pretty sure that Forrest would play instead of Roberts to start with as, brilliant as though Paddy is, he offers no protection to his full back.
I'm hoping Paddy wasn't promised Champions League starts to convince him to sign
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12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out.

He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work.
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Rodgers for me had 4 big decisions ahead of the game tonight in terms of personnel.

I think he got most of them wrong.

Probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference though in fairness.
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12 Sep 2017, 11:49 PM
Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
That's just bollocks.

We defended excellently that night. Forster was a massive part of that, but he was just a part, not the sole reason.
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:35 PM
Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 10:39 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
He virtually did but it was 4 and 5 but the 4 inc a boy who was nowhere near up to it and a rb playing centre back with a 5 with our prize first choice signing who froze and two wingers who offered no protection which accentuated how poor our back 4 was - and an invisible Armstrong didn't help

It was a shambles because there was no defence

What was his alternative ajer :lol: biton :lol: :lol: sviatchenko :lol: Forrest for Roberts really

Rogic for Armstrong mcgregor for ntcham it's all effin tinkering

Or no griffiths and a 4-6 brilliant

He had no defence - its hard to build a team with no foundations
I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan.

Astana away - twice
Hapoel
Barcelona
Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances.

Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results.

Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
You're a complete pumpkin

The guy gives us an undefeated treble

Gets us to the cl twice in a row after PLs boy effs up 2 yrs in a row

And it's his fault

Imps :lol: gtf
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12 Sep 2017, 11:51 PM
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12 Sep 2017, 11:49 PM
Barcelona took us apart like PSG tonight when we played them doing that. If it wasn't for Forster it would've been a complete doing like tonight.
That's just bollocks.

We defended excellently that night. Forster was a massive part of that, but he was just a part, not the sole reason.
We also scored two goals FFS :lol:
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12 Sep 2017, 11:50 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out.

He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work.
The problem is, if you are going with Roberts and Sinclair then you need full back support for them otherwise they just get crowded out and that's exactly what happened. I'd at least understand going with them because you (rightly or wrongly) want to have a go at them but we didn't even do that. It was just a clustereff.
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:52 PM
Kingslim
12 Sep 2017, 11:42 PM
sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:35 PM

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I'm sorry but Brendan is just as much at fault as the players. We've had numerous howling performances in Europe under Brendan.

Astana away - twice
Hapoel
Barcelona
Imps - still a shocker despite the mitigating circumstances.

Adaptability is supposed to be his main trait. He needs to bite the bullet at times and do what it takes to get results.

Getting results at this level will ultimately get him more investment in the squad.
You're a complete pumpkin

The guy gives us an undefeated treble

Gets us to the cl twice in a row after PLs boy effs up 2 yrs in a row

And it's his fault

Imps :lol: gtf
Everything he said was correct.
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sevilliano
12 Sep 2017, 11:40 PM
fatboab
12 Sep 2017, 11:33 PM
Not Brendan's best night. Tactical disaster in all honesty, and no amount of summer signings would have made a difference . Pragmatism doesn't seem to be in BR' s vocabulary. He really better start thinking about how to change it for the next two games, or we will be looking at Played 3, Points 0.
No amount of summer signings :lol:

You watched the collapse against Effin Astana after someone well in the know in Celtic tells you we need no signings

And we don't strengthen the back line at all

Put out a cobbled back four that have never played together before against PSGs forward line and that's the best we have

and it's BRs tactical knowledge that's at fault

Honestly :lol: :lol: :lol:
If he was thinking about playing that defence, he might have least tried it out.

He was going to struggle no matter what defence he put out whether it included Bitton, Ajer or Gamboa but to offer no protection to his inexperienced full backs , and I include Tierney in this as he is miles off the player he is reputed to be, was mental. PSG have M'bappe and Neymar so they were always going to down the flanks. A not fully fit Roberts and Sinclair to help? Never going to work.
Go on then tell us your team and how that would work
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