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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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In fact I get what you're trying to insinuate now, and how very well dare you insight such a claim.

So saying that I wouldn't like to see Brown, Boyata or Gordon as part of our CL team makes me a Sevconian when all three of those players have received their fair share of criticism (and rightly so may I add) in the past from a very big handful of our supporters? Aye good one, it's 'supporters' like yourself who put genuine fans off voicing their opinions even if they may be controversial to the majority, doesn't mean they're wrong though. I will have the fear if any or all three are playing for us against PSG, that is how I genuinely feel about those three players.

As a matter of fact I'd argue any of our supporters who do want to see those three players play for us in the CL this season (In particular Boyata and Gordon) don't want what's best for Celtic on the pitch.
Says the person wanting the hero of the 7 goal trashing in Barcelona starting in goals.
Would you sign Kenin Trapp of PSG? He conceded 6 goals against Barca at the Nou Camp last season. But he is still a top keeper who had a bad night against one of the best sides in the world, the shame in it.
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'another of his slack passes' man, you're unforgiving. Brendan should take notes off you, imagine how good we could become with your ruthlessness.
Brown has many positive attributes, mainly his energy, drive and determination. What he doesn't have is great technique, range of passing or pace; as he gets older the things he's good at have less impact, and his weaknesses are more evident. I wouldn't drop Brown but him being an automatic first-pick won't be the case for much longer beyond this season.

It's a tough one for BR to gradually adapt the team to playing without SB, but he's going to have to do that fairly soon.
He had a poor game mate, the first in god knows how long. Not think you're a bit quick with the Old Yeller treatment ?
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Says the person wanting the hero of the 7 goal trashing in Barcelona starting in goals.
Would you sign Kenin Trapp of PSG? He conceded 6 goals against Barca at the Nou Camp last season. But he is still a top keeper who had a bad night against one of the best sides in the world, the shame in it.
That'd be a grand argument if DDV had been half decent in the rest of the games played for us.

He wasn't though. He was pish.
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Boyata has been rag-dolled by some of Hamilton Accies and Inverness's finest in the past, so he must be in good company then.
Botata has come on loads with BR's management and no reason to think that will not continue.
He was awful in pre-season giving the ball away again cheaply, I see no signs of progress from him that he has cut out his slack passes to the opposition. The Rapid Vienna pre-season game was a prime example of this.
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Would you sign Kenin Trapp of PSG? He conceded 6 goals against Barca at the Nou Camp last season. But he is still a top keeper who had a bad night against one of the best sides in the world, the shame in it.
That'd be a grand argument if DDV had been half decent in the rest of the games played for us.

He wasn't though. He was pish.
Because that game ruined his confidence and shot it to pieces, as it would do with a lot of GKs.
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Botata has come on loads with BR's management and no reason to think that will not continue.
He was awful in pre-season giving the ball away again cheaply, I see no signs of progress from him that he has cut out his slack passes to the opposition. The Rapid Vienna pre-season game was a prime example of this.
It was pre-season ffs.

These games are designed for players to get back up to match fitness/sharpness.

Lacking fitness/sharpness is when they are expected to make these kind of mistakes.
Edited by titch, 27 Aug 2017, 02:06 PM.
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'another of his slack passes' man, you're unforgiving. Brendan should take notes off you, imagine how good we could become with your ruthlessness.
Brown has many positive attributes, mainly his energy, drive and determination. What he doesn't have is great technique, range of passing or pace; as he gets older the things he's good at have less impact, and his weaknesses are more evident. I wouldn't drop Brown but him being an automatic first-pick won't be the case for much longer beyond this season.

It's a tough one for BR to gradually adapt the team to playing without SB, but he's going to have to do that fairly soon.
Brown's pass completion is one of his strong points
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Botata has come on loads with BR's management and no reason to think that will not continue.
He was awful in pre-season giving the ball away again cheaply, I see no signs of progress from him that he has cut out his slack passes to the opposition. The Rapid Vienna pre-season game was a prime example of this.
Pre-season games are about match fitness and getting rid of rustiness in preparation for the forthcoming season / CL qualifiers.

Thanks for your enlightened insight.
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That'd be a grand argument if DDV had been half decent in the rest of the games played for us.

He wasn't though. He was pish.
Because that game ruined his confidence and shot it to pieces, as it would do with a lot of GKs.
Aye right enough, that's why he hasn't played since.

I'll trust Brendan Rodgers over the ramblings of a madman on this one i think :thumbsup:
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This "celtic" fan is the only guy I have heard who wouldn't have Brown in his team. Armstrong has been poor this season.

Can I ask did Scott Brown cut you up in his car or something?
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Brown has many positive attributes, mainly his energy, drive and determination. What he doesn't have is great technique, range of passing or pace; as he gets older the things he's good at have less impact, and his weaknesses are more evident. I wouldn't drop Brown but him being an automatic first-pick won't be the case for much longer beyond this season.

It's a tough one for BR to gradually adapt the team to playing without SB, but he's going to have to do that fairly soon.
He had a poor game mate, the first in god knows how long. Not think you're a bit quick with the Old Yeller treatment ?
I'm not basing that assessment of SB on one game, although I disagree that it's his first in a while as he was absolutely crap against Rosenborg at CP (not alone in that mind).

He hasn't had any real pace for a number of years, and has never been known for defence-splitting passing or fantastic technique, or at least they've never been the main elements of his play. I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that? As you get older and things slow down, having incredibly quick feet and excellent passing are very useful skills, I just don't think SB has ever had that when we're talking about playing at CL-level.
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Botata has come on loads with BR's management and no reason to think that will not continue.
He was awful in pre-season giving the ball away again cheaply, I see no signs of progress from him that he has cut out his slack passes to the opposition. The Rapid Vienna pre-season game was a prime example of this.
Pre-season :lol:

I take it your belief is 'Celtic don't play effing friendlies'.
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Brown has many positive attributes, mainly his energy, drive and determination. What he doesn't have is great technique, range of passing or pace; as he gets older the things he's good at have less impact, and his weaknesses are more evident. I wouldn't drop Brown but him being an automatic first-pick won't be the case for much longer beyond this season.

It's a tough one for BR to gradually adapt the team to playing without SB, but he's going to have to do that fairly soon.
Brown's pass completion is one of his strong points
It is; because he plays short, sensible passes to open team mates. He doesn't play raking cross-field balls that create scoring opportunities, or defence-splitting passes that do likewise.

I'm not criticising his passing, I'm saying that it's not on the same level as other players who play that role in modern football; Ntcham has a better range of passing. :thumbsup:
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He had a poor game mate, the first in god knows how long. Not think you're a bit quick with the Old Yeller treatment ?
I'm not basing that assessment of SB on one game, although I disagree that it's his first in a while as he was absolutely crap against Rosenborg at CP (not alone in that mind).

He hasn't had any real pace for a number of years, and has never been known for defence-splitting passing or fantastic technique, or at least they've never been the main elements of his play. I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that? As you get older and things slow down, having incredibly quick feet and excellent passing are very useful skills, I just don't think SB has ever had that when we're talking about playing at CL-level.
I say it again - Brown had the best pass percentage in CL last season. If that isn't cutting it then we best start saving the pennies for Modric
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This "celtic" fan is the only guy I have heard who wouldn't have Brown in his team. Armstrong has been poor this season.

Can I ask did Scott Brown cut you up in his car or something?
Brown hasn't exactly been on fire either, I've seen many people say that Brown and Ntcham are too similar in style which I agree with. So it would be better to have two different styles of players playing alongside each other, which is why Ntcham beside Armstrong makes sense (and if folk noticed things they would have seen that Armstrong and Ntcham linked up well together for Ntchams goal away against Astana, there was the sign of a decent partnership there).
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I'm not basing that assessment of SB on one game, although I disagree that it's his first in a while as he was absolutely crap against Rosenborg at CP (not alone in that mind).

He hasn't had any real pace for a number of years, and has never been known for defence-splitting passing or fantastic technique, or at least they've never been the main elements of his play. I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that? As you get older and things slow down, having incredibly quick feet and excellent passing are very useful skills, I just don't think SB has ever had that when we're talking about playing at CL-level.
I say it again - Brown had the best pass percentage in CL last season. If that isn't cutting it then we best start saving the pennies for Modric
I say it again; it's not a surprise that he had that percentage when 99% of his passes were simply made with the aim of keeping possession, rather than risking losing the ball with a more difficult pass. Comparing Brown with Modric is just daft.
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He was awful in pre-season giving the ball away again cheaply, I see no signs of progress from him that he has cut out his slack passes to the opposition. The Rapid Vienna pre-season game was a prime example of this.
Pre-season :lol:

I take it your belief is 'Celtic don't play effing friendlies'.
We've found the login of the roaster who stomped onto the pitch during the Man Ud friendly in '06 and chucked his season book and scarf on the ground at Lennon's feet.
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I say it again - Brown had the best pass percentage in CL last season. If that isn't cutting it then we best start saving the pennies for Modric
I say it again; it's not a surprise that he had that percentage when 99% of his passes were simply made with the aim of keeping possession, rather than risking losing the ball with a more difficult pass. Comparing Brown with Modric is just daft.
Where does that 99% figure come from ?
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He had a poor game mate, the first in god knows how long. Not think you're a bit quick with the Old Yeller treatment ?
I'm not basing that assessment of SB on one game, although I disagree that it's his first in a while as he was absolutely crap against Rosenborg at CP (not alone in that mind).

He hasn't had any real pace for a number of years, and has never been known for defence-splitting passing or fantastic technique, or at least they've never been the main elements of his play. I don't think it's particularly controversial to say that? As you get older and things slow down, having incredibly quick feet and excellent passing are very useful skills, I just don't think SB has ever had that when we're talking about playing at CL-level.
So you're saying he's the same player today he has always been ?
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