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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,287,985 Views)
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18 Aug 2017, 10:44 PM
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Are you saying it's shampoo to say Brendan is a better manager than MON? I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best manager since Jock Stein. Eff, even Lenny is above Brendan in terms of Celtic achievements as of right now so I'm obviously not arguing that he's equalled or bettered what MON did here. He will, though, in time. He's that good.
who cares? let's just enjoy the moment. Exactly. No one can ever possibly win this type of argument.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:05 PM
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Are you saying it's shampoo to say Brendan is a better manager than MON? I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best manager since Jock Stein. Eff, even Lenny is above Brendan in terms of Celtic achievements as of right now so I'm obviously not arguing that he's equalled or bettered what MON did here. He will, though, in time. He's that good.
I'm saying it's absolute shampooe to say Rodgers is a "far better manager than MON. It isn't even close". MON is the early 2000's was one of the best managers in the business and completely changed the mentality at Celtic for a generation. We are lucky to have two managers like Rodgers and MON is a comparatively short space of time, let's enjoy it rather than ignorantly denigrate the abilities of a genuine Celtic legend It isn't denigrating the abilities of Martin O'Neill to say that Brendan Rodgers is a better manager than him. Indeed to think that such a claim is in some way a criticism of MON or slanderous would then be denigrating Brendan Rodgers as if it couldn't possibly be the case.
Both quality managers and I love both of them. Brendan, though, is one of the best in the world. A proper world class manager and we are so lucky to have him. It wasn't a criticism of MON in any way.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:07 PM
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- 18 Aug 2017, 10:25 PM
Great listen as always.
Refreshing to see how his professionalism is installed throughout the club too (as you'd expect). John McGlynn spending a week in Astana to analyse them speaks volumes of that professionalism. Great stuff. He'll have fitted in nicely with his trackie bottoms and dress shirt combo.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:13 PM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbetter manager than MON?
I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best manager since Jock Stein. Eff, even Lenny is above Brendan in terms of Celtic achievements as of right now so I'm obviously not arguing that he's equalled or bettered what MON did here. He will, though, in time. He's that good.
I'm saying it's absolute shampooe to say Rodgers is a "far better manager than MON. It isn't even close". MON is the early 2000's was one of the best managers in the business and completely changed the mentality at Celtic for a generation. We are lucky to have two managers like Rodgers and MON is a comparatively short space of time, let's enjoy it rather than ignorantly denigrate the abilities of a genuine Celtic legend
It isn't denigrating the abilities of Martin O'Neill to say that Brendan Rodgers is a better manager than him. Indeed to think that such a claim is in some way a criticism of MON or slanderous would then be denigrating Brendan Rodgers as if it couldn't possibly be the case. Both quality managers and I love both of them. Brendan, though, is one of the best in the world. A proper world class manager and we are so lucky to have him. It wasn't a criticism of MON in any way. Do you reckon he's the best British manager about at the moment? I genuinely can't think of any other decent British coaches in the club game at the moment. Fair play to him - in a bit of a fallow period for coaches from this neck of the woods he's breaking the trend in some style. At his age and looking at any of the other similarly aged managers, he could be the best of his generation by some distance from the UK for sure.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:28 PM
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Thought it was a good appointment at the time but I think he has exceeded all expectations. He has instilled a playing style that is demanded of Celtic in our league, and also tempered that with a style that suits our European challenges.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:32 PM
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Watching the interview there - Rodgers response to Roberts question has me pretty sure he is coming.
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18 Aug 2017, 11:55 PM
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Great listen as always.
Refreshing to see how his professionalism is installed throughout the club too (as you'd expect). John McGlynn spending a week in Astana to analyse them speaks volumes of that professionalism. Great stuff.
Is that the same John McGlynn that was Hearts assistant under a few managers?
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18 Aug 2017, 11:56 PM
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- 18 Aug 2017, 11:32 PM
Watching the interview there - Rodgers response to Roberts question has me pretty sure he is coming. Hope he has a hanky .
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19 Aug 2017, 01:02 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbetter manager than MON?
I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best
It isn't denigrating the abilities of Martin O'Neill to say that Brendan Rodgers is a better manager than him. Indeed to think that such a claim is in some way a criticism of MON or slanderous would then be denigrating Brendan Rodgers as if it couldn't possibly be the case. Both quality managers and I love both of them. Brendan, though, is one of the best in the world. A proper world class manager and we are so lucky to have him. It wasn't a criticism of MON in any way.
Do you reckon he's the best British manager about at the moment? I genuinely can't think of any other decent British coaches in the club game at the moment. Fair play to him - in a bit of a fallow period for coaches from this neck of the woods he's breaking the trend in some style. At his age and looking at any of the other similarly aged managers, he could be the best of his generation by some distance from the UK for sure. No doubt about it. Not much competition mind.
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19 Aug 2017, 01:47 AM
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Love the man
Who's the hack that starts off asking about Gladbach? What a dour carrot
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19 Aug 2017, 01:56 AM
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What a manager we have. I’ve given up worrying about team selections, tactics, substitutions, the lot. This guy and his team (both players and off-the-park assistants) have it all figured out. I trust them utterly to deliver the best possible 11 on the park fired up and prepared to deliver victory.
These are special days. Thank-you Brendan (and your team).
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19 Aug 2017, 02:37 AM
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Brendan Rodgers: Sir Alex Ferguson has been an inspiration of mine since we first met at the age of 14 Stewart Fisher Sports Writer
Spoiler: click to toggle THE big boss of everyone. That is what a deferential Brendan Rodgers calls Sir Alex Ferguson, the managerial legend from whom he spent a few hours soaking up some precious knowledge from at a swish function at Glasgow’s Hilton Hotel on Thursday night. “It is always good when you win 5-0 in Europe,” the former Manchester United manager told him about Celtic’s Champions League qualifying dismissal of Astana the previous night, typically throwing in the tacit reminder that it is the kind of feat his teams have achieved on several occasions.
There is upwards of 30 years between the two men, but Ferguson has been a formidable background inspiration to the Northern Irishman since he first alighted at Old Trafford as 14-year-old from Carnlough for youth team trials, in the company of Dunfermline boss Allan Johnston amongst others. No contract was forthcoming, but that formidable work ethic and holistic approach to running a football club impressed him even then, as did the personal touch the Scot extended to him when he was sacked from Reading, a letter arriving out of the blue to console him and offer any assistance.
As the years drew on, Ferguson was welcomed to the Liberty Stadium in Swansea with two bottles of Patagonian red wine and trivia questions about Welshmen scoring at the old Wembley when he brought Manchester United to his corner of South Wales for the first time, and this respect between the two men remained intact even for the one season where they were enemy combatants in the fearsome Manchester United-Liverpool rivalry. Now Rodgers too tries to incorporate time for other managers into his modus operandi, such as the time Paul Hartley spent at Lennoxtown following his departure from Dundee.
While the Celtic manager admits that his trophy-laden stay at Old Trafford is the kind of feat which is impossible in the modern era, what he would really love his Celtic team to emulate is the hunger which drove him on relentlessly during that 27-year period. On Thursday night, the two men agreed that complacency was a contagion which can affect a football club, so rest assured that Rodgers wants Celtic to display none of the symptoms as they look to carry their form against Astana into today’s lunchtime visit to Ayrshire. They have gone 50 matches unbeaten in domestic play since his arrival, but presumably a slip will arrive at some point.
“It was gold dust, really,” said Rodgers. “He is the big boss of everyone, up there as a beacon for every manager. He was incredible with what he formed, developed and cultivated and the way he also stayed modern all the way through. His enthusiasm, the drive and the hunger you have to always keep the complacency away. He mentioned the other night that complacency is like a disease. And we speak about it here every day.
“He probably has been a perennial figure in my development, if you look really closely at it,” the Northern Irishman added. “He is someone I have always had a huge admiration for. He is an inspiration, that is for sure.
“It’s a natural thing. when you see someone in need or in any walk of life, then I’m always someone to hold my hand out and support,” he added. “But he did that when I got the sack from Reading and I got a letter from him. That meant a lot to me at that time.
“I hadn’t really come across him at that point other than when I came over from Northern Ireland as a boy,” said Rodgers. “He had only been there a year or so at that time and I was a typically talented Irish lad who was brought over from time to time. But even back then what was apparent to me was the fact that every time I went there I saw Alex Ferguson every single day. It was incredible. That was the work he put in to everything, including the youth.
“He was always great when I was at Liverpool. We spoke about it the other night, and he loves the rivalry. I was a rival in that last year of his but he was always very open. In that dead moment for a manager, when the players were out warming up, he would invite me in for a cup of tea.”
“Something else I always admired about him was that I always felt he makes a really attacking changes. I am a very aggressive attacking coach and he is an aggressive attacking coach too.”
Could the Rodgers dynasty similarly last 27 years at Parkhead? “Football doesn’t work like that now,” he said. “Modern football is great, nice, but when Arsene Wenger goes you will see the very last of that profile of manager, that longevity. Football is so emotional now. I am lucky to have a really brilliant board who are really clever. But sometimes modern players get fed up with you at some point.”
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19 Aug 2017, 02:46 AM
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The good thing is we go into the CL with Paddy in our team.
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19 Aug 2017, 03:31 AM
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Better than MON???
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19 Aug 2017, 03:43 AM
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- In The Heat of Lisbon
- 18 Aug 2017, 10:39 PM
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Great listen as always.
Refreshing to see how his professionalism is installed throughout the club too (as you'd expect). John McGlynn spending a week in Astana to analyse them speaks volumes of that professionalism. Great stuff.
Is that the same John McGlynn that was Hearts assistant under a few managers? yes
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19 Aug 2017, 04:30 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbetter manager than MON?
I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best
It isn't denigrating the abilities of Martin O'Neill to say that Brendan Rodgers is a better manager than him. Indeed to think that such a claim is in some way a criticism of MON or slanderous would then be denigrating Brendan Rodgers as if it couldn't possibly be the case. Both quality managers and I love both of them. Brendan, though, is one of the best in the world. A proper world class manager and we are so lucky to have him. It wasn't a criticism of MON in any way.
Do you reckon he's the best British manager about at the moment? I genuinely can't think of any other decent British coaches in the club game at the moment. Fair play to him - in a bit of a fallow period for coaches from this neck of the woods he's breaking the trend in some style. At his age and looking at any of the other similarly aged managers, he could be the best of his generation by some distance from the UK for sure. He's from the north of Ireland
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19 Aug 2017, 06:48 AM
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I never get the "better than him" stuff.
Does it matter? Just enjoy what we are doing under Brendan & be glad we have him, like the MON days.
Same with the folk who go on about if Thumb is better than Dembele. Both different & I'm just glad we have the two of them!
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19 Aug 2017, 08:18 AM
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Better than MON???
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He's brilliant at talking and doing
If he gets what he wants I think with favourable draw last 8 may be possible
If hard draw certainly Europa final
His comments on green brigade superb
And on sir awex
Fantastic all in all and glad to see he has one fault in his absolutely shocking dress sense
Over to you fatboab
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19 Aug 2017, 09:06 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepbetter manager than MON?
I'm not suggesting that he's achieved more as Celtic manager than MON has. He has only been here for a year, after all. I'm just saying that he is a better manager and indeed our best manager since Jock Stein. Eff, even Lenny is above Brendan in terms of Celtic achievements as of right now so I'm obviously not arguing that he's equalled or bettered what MON did here. He will, though, in time. He's that good.
I'm saying it's absolute shampooe to say Rodgers is a "far better manager than MON. It isn't even close". MON is the early 2000's was one of the best managers in the business and completely changed the mentality at Celtic for a generation. We are lucky to have two managers like Rodgers and MON is a comparatively short space of time, let's enjoy it rather than ignorantly denigrate the abilities of a genuine Celtic legend
It isn't denigrating the abilities of Martin O'Neill to say that Brendan Rodgers is a better manager than him. Indeed to think that such a claim is in some way a criticism of MON or slanderous would then be denigrating Brendan Rodgers as if it couldn't possibly be the case. Both quality managers and I love both of them. Brendan, though, is one of the best in the world. A proper world class manager and we are so lucky to have him. It wasn't a criticism of MON in any way. Fair enough
Felt it was a disrespectful way of expressing it by saying it's not even close. Personally I think that MON was also one of the best in the business and genuinely world class too.
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