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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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4 Apr 2017, 12:12 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep will go down as second to Stein, not is second to Stein. Who are the three managers better than him in your lifetime? I'm 30 and he's the best Celtic manager in my lifetime so wondering who I've missed off of my list  And yes, he is a better manager than MON. He may not have achieved the same as MON did in his time but he has done something quite incredible with what we all thought was a mediocre squad of players. I doubt many fans would trade Brendan for MON if they were given the option.
MON had a much stronger team during his time at Celtic - but also faced far stronger opposition. To undo the iron grip Deadco had on Scottish football when he took over was no mean feat - especially as they continued to deploy EBTs to inflate their squad for up to a decade afterwards. Europe should be the benchmark by which comparisons between the two should be made. At the moment BR's team at that level is still very much a work in progress. As for BR's quote about making the upper reaches of the Premier League, bear in mind next season a side will return to that division with a comparable fan base to Celtic, huge financial backing and a manager who has won the world's toughest league (twice) as well as the Champions League. Yet only the most deluded geordies would expect them to finish in the top six..
This is all simply pish. If a team goes into the EPL, they're allowed to spend money. It happens every year when a team gets promoted. Celtic wouldn't be operating under the financial constraints that we currently do. Everyone always wonders what this team (whether that's now or MON's team) would do in the EPL. Both would do well, but I'd imagine that MON wouldn't have had the likes of Laursen, Douglas, Vega as first picks and there are a few from our current side who would be on their way. And while the quality of Scottish football isn't great, Celtic would also have to beat some utter tripe in the EPL as well, as it happens. You have the ridiculous scenario of the guy from Sky asking Brendan Rodgers how to compete with teams in England, given the financial disparity. He should have told McCann live on air that his company should stop ripping the pish out of football in this country with ridiculous money while chucking billions at England, and that would be a start. The EPL has some massive clubs who would be just that in any era... massive. It also has a load of clubs who have bought their success though dodgy ownership and free money. If it wasn't for the fact that they're the plaything of sheikhs, oligarchs and tyrants some of these clubs would be fulfilling their traditional roles as yoyos, up and down the divisions. And that includes Manchester City, a club famous largely for not winning anything for decades, and Chelsea, whose fans had bucket collections to stop them going bust and, IIRC, were also sold for a quid. Money makes people's minds turn to mush. Take the money away from the EPL and there's nothing there. The big clubs who have a genuine history and support base will still be there, there rest will be kicking stones out of boredom on the road to oblivion.
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4 Apr 2017, 12:16 AM
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Got an email from dad saying St Columba of Iona Emailed him back to ask how long and what he taught. I basically just remember that he used to tell me he had Charlie Nicholas as a pupil when he was a teacher. I also remember a story about a mouse or rat (live) being flung at the blackboard when he had his back turned once
My dad ended up at Columba of Iona after starting out in St Patrick's Anderson just after World War II. He then did some time in the Candy Rock before going to Maryhill in the early 1960s. Wee Charlie was among the last year groups that he taught there. He used to see Charlie very occasionally at our local parish church in Cardowan when Charlie and his parents moved out there to Stepps. CFC also used to do some pre season training at St.Al's spoart grounds at Millerston and Charlie would always say hello to my old man very respectfully
My dad must have been quite young when he was there, he was only 27 or 28 I think when he moved to Sweden with my mum. I'm sure I'll get a reply from him about when and what he taught there tomorrow morning when he's up again.
He never stayed in teaching though. He worked in government agencies, so civil service I guess, in Sweden for years & did some government inquires as well before ending up doing authorised translations full-time (and, indeed, employing me as well).
Got to say it's nice to hear from people with connections to his job from before I was even born
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St Columba of Iona
My dad taught there too, taught Charlie and your man Fitzpatrick that played for St Mirren. He was a Techie teacher. I know Tony Fitzpatrick well, his younger brother Paul was one of my best mates, The Fitzpatricks had a lot of tragedy in the family, Tonys son died very young and my mate Paul also had the same muscle wasting disease that effected Tony Jnr.
Paul died in his 20s of a heart attack in a local pub watching the Scotland England Euro qualifier in 1996
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Can I just say, what a man and what a manager! Thank God, the Huns went crazy after that win on penalty kicks last season
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4 Apr 2017, 02:28 AM
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He said will go down as second to Stein, not is second to Stein. Who are the three managers better than him in your lifetime? I'm 30 and he's the best Celtic manager in my lifetime so wondering who I've missed off of my list  And yes, he is a better manager than MON. He may not have achieved the same as MON did in his time but he has done something quite incredible with what we all thought was a mediocre squad of players. I doubt many fans would trade Brendan for MON if they were given the option.
I know what he said. It's still a pretty bold statement after not even a full season. Wim stopped them winning the 10. MON took them to the cleaners and Strachan won 3 in a row plus 2 last 16s. Now im not suggesting they were all better managers than Rodgers but their achievements put them ahead for now. Wim's achievements were to win a league and a league cup. Brendan has already equalled that with room to spare and we're still in the Scottish Cup.
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4 Apr 2017, 02:33 AM
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep will go down as second to Stein, not is second to Stein. Who are the three managers better than him in your lifetime? I'm 30 and he's the best Celtic manager in my lifetime so wondering who I've missed off of my list  And yes, he is a better manager than MON. He may not have achieved the same as MON did in his time but he has done something quite incredible with what we all thought was a mediocre squad of players. I doubt many fans would trade Brendan for MON if they were given the option.
MON had a much stronger team during his time at Celtic - but also faced far stronger opposition. To undo the iron grip Deadco had on Scottish football when he took over was no mean feat - especially as they continued to deploy EBTs to inflate their squad for up to a decade afterwards. Europe should be the benchmark by which comparisons between the two should be made. At the moment BR's team at that level is still very much a work in progress. As for BR's quote about making the upper reaches of the Premier League, bear in mind next season a side will return to that division with a comparable fan base to Celtic, huge financial backing and a manager who has won the world's toughest league (twice) as well as the Champions League. Yet only the most deluded geordies would expect them to finish in the top six..
This is all simply pish. If a team goes into the EPL, they're allowed to spend money. It happens every year when a team gets promoted. Celtic wouldn't be operating under the financial constraints that we currently do. Everyone always wonders what this team (whether that's now or MON's team) would do in the EPL. Both would do well, but I'd imagine that MON wouldn't have had the likes of Laursen, Douglas, Vega as first picks and there are a few from our current side who would be on their way. And while the quality of Scottish football isn't great, Celtic would also have to beat some utter tripe in the EPL as well, as it happens. You have the ridiculous scenario of the guy from Sky asking Brendan Rodgers how to compete with teams in England, given the financial disparity. He should have told McCann live on air that his company should stop ripping the pish out of football in this country with ridiculous money while chucking billions at England, and that would be a start. The EPL has some massive clubs who would be just that in any era... massive. It also has a load of clubs who have bought their success though dodgy ownership and free money. If it wasn't for the fact that they're the plaything of sheikhs, oligarchs and tyrants some of these clubs would be fulfilling their traditional roles as yoyos, up and down the divisions. And that includes Manchester City, a club famous largely for not winning anything for decades, and Chelsea, whose fans had bucket collections to stop them going bust and, IIRC, were also sold for a quid. Money makes people's minds turn to mush. Take the money away from the EPL and there's nothing there. The big clubs who have a genuine history and support base will still be there, there rest will be kicking stones out of boredom on the road to oblivion. Ned nails it as usual.
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4 Apr 2017, 03:12 AM
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"Aberdeen's 7-0 win against Dundee United last night". They don't give a shampoo, do they?
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"Aberdeen's 7-0 win against Dundee United last night". They don't give a shampoo, do they? He corrected himself at the end but you're right, they don't.
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"Aberdeen's 7-0 win against Dundee United last night". They don't give a shampoo, do they?
He corrected himself at the end but you're right, they don't. Yeah I saw that but it's clear he doesn't know that DU aren't even in that league at the moment.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepwill go down as second to Stein, not isthem to finish in the top six..
This is all simply pish. If a team goes into the EPL, they're allowed to spend money. It happens every year when a team gets promoted. Celtic wouldn't be operating under the financial constraints that we currently do. Everyone always wonders what this team (whether that's now or MON's team) would do in the EPL. Both would do well, but I'd imagine that MON wouldn't have had the likes of Laursen, Douglas, Vega as first picks and there are a few from our current side who would be on their way. And while the quality of Scottish football isn't great, Celtic would also have to beat some utter tripe in the EPL as well, as it happens. You have the ridiculous scenario of the guy from Sky asking Brendan Rodgers how to compete with teams in England, given the financial disparity. He should have told McCann live on air that his company should stop ripping the pish out of football in this country with ridiculous money while chucking billions at England, and that would be a start. The EPL has some massive clubs who would be just that in any era... massive. It also has a load of clubs who have bought their success though dodgy ownership and free money. If it wasn't for the fact that they're the plaything of sheikhs, oligarchs and tyrants some of these clubs would be fulfilling their traditional roles as yoyos, up and down the divisions. And that includes Manchester City, a club famous largely for not winning anything for decades, and Chelsea, whose fans had bucket collections to stop them going bust and, IIRC, were also sold for a quid. Money makes people's minds turn to mush. Take the money away from the EPL and there's nothing there. The big clubs who have a genuine history and support base will still be there, there rest will be kicking stones out of boredom on the road to oblivion.
Ned nails it as usual. Yep, excellently put.
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My dad taught there too, taught Charlie and your man Fitzpatrick that played for St Mirren. He was a Techie teacher.
I know Tony Fitzpatrick well, his younger brother Paul was one of my best mates, The Fitzpatricks had a lot of tragedy in the family, Tonys son died very young and my mate Paul also had the same muscle wasting disease that effected Tony Jnr. Paul died in his 20s of a heart attack in a local pub watching the Scotland England Euro qualifier in 1996 Sorry to hear that about your pal. Are the Fitzpatricks related to Willie Abercrombie who also played for St Mirren and who went to Columba of Iona? Remember my dad really didn't like the way that Alex Ferguson treated a number of guys from his school. He thought SAF made promises that he never kept and ruined the career of a couple by overplaying them when injured!
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we have an appropriate new banner, courtesy ,as always, of Cartuja.
Well done Brendan Rodgers, Manager of The Champions.
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we have an appropriate new banner, courtesy ,as always, of Cartuja. Well done Brendan Rodgers, Manager of The Champions. Only working on the main skin. All the other ones still have Tommy Gemmell.
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we have an appropriate new banner, courtesy ,as always, of Cartuja. Well done Brendan Rodgers, Manager of The Champions.
Only working on the main skin. All the other ones still have Tommy Gemmell. Fantastic banner
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I know Tony Fitzpatrick well, his younger brother Paul was one of my best mates, The Fitzpatricks had a lot of tragedy in the family, Tonys son died very young and my mate Paul also had the same muscle wasting disease that effected Tony Jnr. Paul died in his 20s of a heart attack in a local pub watching the Scotland England Euro qualifier in 1996
Sorry to hear that about your pal. Are the Fitzpatricks related to Willie Abercrombie who also played for St Mirren and who went to Columba of Iona? Remember my dad really didn't like the way that Alex Ferguson treated a number of guys from his school. He thought SAF made promises that he never kept and ruined the career of a couple by overplaying them when injured! HH Dont think Tony is related to Billy Abercrombie, but the less said about him the better, animal made his wife Anne Marie's life a misery
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep will go down as second to Stein, not is second to Stein. Who are the three managers better than him in your lifetime? I'm 30 and he's the best Celtic manager in my lifetime so wondering who I've missed off of my list  And yes, he is a better manager than MON. He may not have achieved the same as MON did in his time but he has done something quite incredible with what we all thought was a mediocre squad of players. I doubt many fans would trade Brendan for MON if they were given the option.
I know what he said. It's still a pretty bold statement after not even a full season. Wim stopped them winning the 10. MON took them to the cleaners and Strachan won 3 in a row plus 2 last 16s. Now im not suggesting they were all better managers than Rodgers but their achievements put them ahead for now.  Wim's achievements were to win a league and a league cup. Brendan has already equalled that with room to spare and we're still in the Scottish Cup. Context isn't your strong point is it?
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Jurgen Klopp - Liverpool record - 8 October 2015 - Present 91 45 26 20 49.5 Brendan Rodgers - Liverpool record- 1 June 2012 - 4th Oct 2015 166 83 41 42 50.0
Seems Brendan has a better record than Jurgen Klopp, despite building from a much lower position, and the board selling his whole strike force of Saurez, Sterling, and Andy Carroll
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Glad the manager has went out his way to praise McGregor. He is a fantastic wee player and not had anywhere near the credit he deserves either from the press or a big section of the support. Didn't realise he had played so many positions for us this season.
We're lucky to have him in this team. This is coming from someone who only last year didn't think he was good enough for the level the manager wanted
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This may be a bit out there for some folk but I would rather listen to this than the ramblings of Mad Pedro.
The psychology of a Celtic boss - Brendan Rodgers and the Magic Man, the Blonde Cafu and the Beautiful, Beautiful Human Being Rodgers loves to get into his player's brains to help them reach their potential - here's just some of the ways he's done that this season.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByFraser Wilson Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers is a self-confessed believer in sports psychology - squeezing every last ounce of ability out of his stars through the science of the mind. Likening his players to some of the best on the planet has been a regular feature of Rodgers' style - remember the Blonde Cafu and the Welsh Xavi? Some might call it masterful man-management while others may suggest he's just buttering them up. Whatever it is there's little doubt his words of wisdom have worked winders this season. Tom Rogic is just the latest Hoops star to be landed with a Rodgers' superlative. Last night the Aussie was dubbed the 'Magic Man' by his boss who went on to say he can become one of Europe's best midfielders. Stuart Armstrong , Craig Gordon and even Scott Brown are other examples of players who have progressed beyond belief this season in comparison to their performances just a year ago. Rodgers studied NLP – neuro linguistic programming - for five years and believes getting into his player's brains can help make them tick. Here's five examples of the Celtic boss doing just that - and some of the best monikers of the season in Scotland. Tom Rogic - The Magic Man Celtic's Tom Rogic - a magician according to Rodgers The Aussie is on the verge of a return after a four-month injury lay-off and how he must be buzzing to get back on the park. Especially after his hearing his boss tip him to become one of the best midfielders in the whole of Europe! Rodgers said last night: “The Magic Man is back. What a player. “He’s an amazing player and can grow into one of the top midfield players in Europe. “That’s what he can develop into as there’s no doubt he’s top class. “He’s a good boy too and devoted to his profession. He’s a key player." Stuart Armstrong - The Blonde CafuStuart Armstrong is a Brazilian in disguise Arguably Celtic's player of the season. Armstrong's transformation from fringe man to man man has been stunning. Not only has he made the box-to-box midfield role his own, he's also proved adept at filling in at full back - like he did against Inverness in November. But just how good was he in that role? Rodgers said after the match: "The Blonde Cafu. He was up and down that wing, wasn't he? "The boy did brilliantly to adapt the position. "He has played a central role for me and I see him developing and progressing his game day in and day out and he is now looking the part." Kolo Toure - A beautiful, beautiful human being Big Gorgeous himself - Kolo Toure Not a direct comparison in big Kolo's case - simply a smacker of a compliment about the former Liverpool defender's overall personality. Rodgers lavished praise on the Ivorian when he arrived at Celtic Park in August and was in no mood to hold back as he dubbed the 35-year-old "a beautiful, beautiful human being". Toure has already endured the highest of highs after a man-of-the-match performance against Manchester City - and the lowest of lows in a horrid night against Borussia Monchengladbach. After the latter Brendan dubbed the veteran a "warrior". He said: “This will hurt Kolo but he is also a warrior as well. “He is a guy who is very mentally tough and he will recover from this.” Scott Brown - Just like Stevie G Two peas in a pod - Broonie and Stevie G Rodgers has been bowled over by his skipper's devotion to everything Celtic since arriving in Glasgow. Last year he claimed the 31-year-old would have strolled into his Liverpool side which almost won the Premier League a few years ago. Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers claims Scott Brown would've strolled into his title-chasing Liverpool side And he backed that up by comparing Brown to his old talisman at Anfield - Stevie G. Rodgers said: "They are very similar. They want what is best for the club. "Scott Brown is such a driving force for the team, and sometimes when things don’t go so well for the team, that player gets the brunt of it. "I saw that with Steven Gerrard. Everything Stevie did at Liverpool, there were still times when he bore the brunt of it." Leigh Griffiths - the Scottish Suarez? El Sparko: Griffiths needs a Latino name to be worth £15m says Rodgers Hands up - this is not a direct quote. But compare the former Hibs man to Barcelona's £65m superstar he did. Speaking not long after taking over at Parkhead the Celtic boss mentioned the man known as Sparky in the same breath as Suarez, who he managed at Liverpool. He said: “Leigh plays on the limit, as a number of our boys do. That’s what you want as a coach and a manager. “If he had a different name – a more Latino name – this guy would be talked about as being worth 15 million quid, for sure. Luis Suarez played on edge and he was alright.” Now if that lot doesn't make you believe in your ability... http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/psychology-celtic-boss-brendan-rodgers-10161508
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