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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Stringer Bell
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10 Mar 2017, 10:51 AM
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As much as his comments gave me a giggle - like Chris Sutton, Brendan completely misses the point of the whole 'going for 55 chat'. This was nothing to do with a genuine feeling they were going to win the league or not. It was to give credence to the continuation story - that the entity in the Premier League had already won 54 - not that they were genuinely going for 55. It was a line which was steeped in insecurity rather than arrogance. There's truth in what you're saying, but some of them were deluded enough to believe they'd win it.
I'm sure plenty of the 'experts' in the media tipped them to win the league, with Joey Barton as POTY.
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10 Mar 2017, 10:58 AM
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As much as his comments gave me a giggle - like Chris Sutton, Brendan completely misses the point of the whole 'going for 55 chat'. This was nothing to do with a genuine feeling they were going to win the league or not. It was to give credence to the continuation story - that the entity in the Premier League had already won 54 - not that they were genuinely going for 55. It was a line which was steeped in insecurity rather than arrogance.
There's truth in what you're saying, but some of them were deluded enough to believe they'd win it. I'm sure plenty of the 'experts' in the media tipped them to win the league, with Joey Barton as POTY. Yeah, maybe I understated their delusion - there was plenty of that, agreed. The thrust of the message though, in my view, was all about continuation. Their utter obsession and insecurity with the continuation of their history is hilarious.
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10 Mar 2017, 11:00 AM
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As much as his comments gave me a giggle - like Chris Sutton, Brendan completely misses the point of the whole 'going for 55 chat'. This was nothing to do with a genuine feeling they were going to win the league or not. It was to give credence to the continuation story - that the entity in the Premier League had already won 54 - not that they were genuinely going for 55. It was a line which was steeped in insecurity rather than arrogance.
There's truth in what you're saying, but some of them were deluded enough to believe they'd win it. I'm sure plenty of the 'experts' in the media tipped them to win the league, with Joey Barton as POTY.
Yeah, maybe I understated their delusion - there was plenty of that, agreed. The thrust of the message though, in my view, was all about continuation. Their utter obsession and insecurity with the continuation of their history is hilarious. i think it was both tbh. i have no doubt at all that king genuinely thought they were going for the title this year
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10 Mar 2017, 11:54 AM
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Yeah, maybe I understated their delusion - there was plenty of that, agreed. The thrust of the message though, in my view, was all about continuation. Their utter obsession and insecurity with the continuation of their history is hilarious.
i think it was both tbh. i have no doubt at all that king genuinely thought they were going for the title this year I'd agree that they thought they'd win it, and hoping that repeating the same lie over and over again, would somehow become truth.
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11 Mar 2017, 03:33 PM
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Thursday morning at Celtic's Lennoxtown training base and all is well in Brendan Rodgers's world as he prepares his side for their next challenge.
History is within Celtic's grasp. After a remarkable 26 wins and one draw from 27 Scottish Premiership games, they have the chance to go through the domestic season unbeaten and record a feat achieved by, among others, Arsenal's Invincibles of 2003-04 and Fabio Capello's AC Milan in 1991-92.
Against the backdrop of the Campsie Fells, Rodgers watches the session unfold, intervening only when some coaxing is required.
He has a spring in his step that derives from seeing his squad progress. Celtic's results and performances confirm that is what this group has done.
'What I've gone back to with my staff is developing players and improving them,' says Rodgers.
A prime example is Stuart Armstrong, a midfielder who was drifting under previous manager Ronny Deila but has scored 10 goals so far and is being tipped to play for Scotland.
'Towards the end of my time at Liverpool, that is something we moved away from. But that is what my career has been about.'
Rodgers is aware of the snobbery towards Scottish football that exists but it doesn't concern him. Away from the maelstrom of the Premier League, he has found contentment and a project that is enabling him to develop as a coach and manager.
'Celtic isn't in the richest league in the world but that shouldn't take anything away from it,' says Rodgers. 'It shouldn't take anything away from the duty of care you have for developing players. Scottish football doesn't have money. The Premier League is purely money. That is what it is.
'It's an incredible spectacle. We all love it. But you also see the collateral damage around it. I totally understand football now. You're either God and can walk on water on Saturday or Sunday. Or you are the Devil on Monday. That's how football is.'
There is a twinkle in his eye. We talk outside one of the youth-team changing rooms, standing in the same spot as we did last September when Rodgers was about to sample the Old Firm frenzy for the first time; that game announced Moussa Dembele's arrival as Rangers were trounced 5-1.
'He is only 20,' Rodgers says of Dembele, who was linked with £40million moves in January to Chelsea and Manchester United. But he is a big-game player. This boy is a talent.'
The scene around us is almost identical — Rangers, fittingly, again provide the opposition on Sunday — but there has been a notable addition to the decor. To his left, hanging proudly, is a team photo complete with the Scottish League Cup.
A 3-0 win over Aberdeen on November 27 secured Celtic their 100th major prize but, crucially, it was Rodgers's first.
It came eight years and three days after he started out as a manager at Watford — 'the world of no sleep,' he calls the profession — but his views on how important it is to have silverware on his c.v. are as unexpected as they are revealing. Going to Scotland was not a mission to just chase pots.
'It won't define me,' he says. 'It might define others but it doesn't define me. I do this for the club. I could end up having 10, 15 trophies. But does that change me? It really doesn't.
'When I went into Liverpool (in 2012), my job was clear. You think about it. I followed a legend of a manager (Kenny Dalglish) who had just won the League Cup and reached the FA Cup final. He finished eighth in the league and lost his job. So the message to me, then, is: I need to get in the Champions League.'
This is the only time Liverpool is introduced to the conversation at length. He looks back at his three years at Anfield with pride but the wounds inflicted by his dismissal in October 2015 have healed. He is talking about the experience to provide context.
'So we qualified for the Champions League,' he continues. 'But two years in, I think: I've got to get a trophy here. We got to two semi-finals and just missed out. So I gauge where I am at a club. I knew when I got to Celtic if we could get the League Cup, it could start a great process for us.
'But at the end of my time as a manager, I want to have provided innovation for youth players, for senior players. I want people to look back and maybe say, 'Yeah, he influenced my ability'. Now that means I might not win trophies. It might mean I do. Either way, I'm OK.'
He is more than OK. Crowds have flocked back to Celtic Park and the Scottish title will soon be clinched. Complacency is kept at bay from the knowledge that things can change rapidly, citing the fate of Claudio Ranieri. 'When Ranieri went, there was a real sadness and empathy for him as a fellow manager,' he says. 'It was like taking a baseball bat to Santa Claus. You think, 'How can they do this to that guy!'
'It's why I think there should be a manager's window. It's getting to the stage now where there are so many changes — in 2015-16 it was 56 of the 92 — if you have a window for players, there should be a window for managers.
'The Premier League is brilliant. It's the most competitive, a league where there are brilliant players. But it's not the only league with great clubs. Celtic is one of the great clubs in the world.'
What, then, was the incentive that made him rebuff offers in England? 'My idea wasn't to win the league here by doing the least that you can,' he says. 'It was by doing it the best that you can.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4302676/Brendan-Rodgers-got-Celtic-firing-again.html
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11 Mar 2017, 03:45 PM
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Another great interview from our manager and thanks for posting.
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Wailer
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11 Mar 2017, 03:54 PM
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As much as his comments gave me a giggle - like Chris Sutton, Brendan completely misses the point of the whole 'going for 55 chat'. This was nothing to do with a genuine feeling they were going to win the league or not. It was to give credence to the continuation story - that the entity in the Premier League had already won 54 - not that they were genuinely going for 55. It was a line which was steeped in insecurity rather than arrogance.
In Glasgow the Zombie fuds were giving it large from both angles Nick - Sutton maybe picked up on that vibe I don't know.
Yeah there is no doubt they had their magic hats on but I still maintain that the whole reason behind the 'Going for 55' rubbish was about continuation. They might as well have held up a banner saying 'We are still Rangers'. Because that is what it boiled down to. Yip, I believe this too and with a compliant media aiding an abetting the myth it made for an easy ride.
Still, there were some balloons that actually believed they were going to win the league.
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remy mcswain
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11 Mar 2017, 03:56 PM
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Yeah there is no doubt they had their magic hats on but I still maintain that the whole reason behind the 'Going for 55' rubbish was about continuation. They might as well have held up a banner saying 'We are still Rangers'. Because that is what it boiled down to.
Yip, I believe this too and with a compliant media aiding an abetting the myth it made for an easy ride. Still, there were some balloons that actually believed they were going to win the league. It's the balloons who believe they are the same club who worry me. Eh, Murphio?
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11 Mar 2017, 04:36 PM
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'It was like taking a baseball bat to Santa Claus. You think, 'How can they do this to that guy!' David Brentish but I like it
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murphio
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11 Mar 2017, 05:13 PM
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Yip, I believe this too and with a compliant media aiding an abetting the myth it made for an easy ride. Still, there were some balloons that actually believed they were going to win the league.
It's the balloons who believe they are the same club who worry me. Eh, Murphio? I know, a 60,000 sellout tomorrow and a 354 page thread running on this board re these five year old upstarts.
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11 Mar 2017, 06:00 PM
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It's the balloons who believe they are the same club who worry me. Eh, Murphio?
I know, a 60,000 sellout tomorrow and a 354 page thread running on this board re these five year old upstarts. Different lump of shampooe. Same disgusting flies.
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11 Mar 2017, 08:30 PM
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As much as his comments gave me a giggle - like Chris Sutton, Brendan completely misses the point of the whole 'going for 55 chat'. This was nothing to do with a genuine feeling they were going to win the league or not. It was to give credence to the continuation story - that the entity in the Premier League had already won 54 - not that they were genuinely going for 55. It was a line which was steeped in insecurity rather than arrogance.
There's truth in what you're saying, but some of them were deluded enough to believe they'd win it. I'm sure plenty of the 'experts' in the media tipped them to win the league, with Joey Barton as POTY.
Yeah, maybe I understated their delusion - there was plenty of that, agreed. The thrust of the message though, in my view, was all about continuation. Their utter obsession and insecurity with the continuation of their history is hilarious. I agree with your point that they were pushing the 55 chat to cling onto the history of the oldco, which is something they'll always do. However, I don't think it was that alone.
Every single hun I know genuinely thought they would win the league this season. Bare in mind we had signed some Championship striker for 500k and a guy that couldn't get a game for Aston Villa. Yet they had just secured the world class trio of Barton, Krancjar and Senderos. They pretend they've won 54 titles to make themselves feel better, but their hopes of winning the league were the only genuine thing about them. It simply makes the gap all the more delicious.
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For the first time in a long time, the bold Brendan made a big tactical error today. Taking off Armstrong for Griffiths turned the game.
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12 Mar 2017, 02:52 PM
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Made an arse of it today. Baffling substitution.
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12 Mar 2017, 02:53 PM
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For the first time in a long time, the bold Brendan made a big tactical error today. Taking off Armstrong for Griffiths turned the game. yup. Wrong move. We lost the midfield battle after that. It should have been Eboue.
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12 Mar 2017, 02:54 PM
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I feel like Roberts was worse.
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12 Mar 2017, 02:55 PM
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For the first time in a long time, the bold Brendan made a big tactical error today. Taking off Armstrong for Griffiths turned the game.
yup. Wrong move. We lost the midfield battle after that. It should have been Eboue. No. He should have left it alone. We were fine, Outsmarted himself today.
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12 Mar 2017, 03:02 PM
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For the first time in a long time, the bold Brendan made a big tactical error today. Taking off Armstrong for Griffiths turned the game. Yep, we lost the midfield from a position of dominating it. Felt like they had an extra man from that point (stonewall penalty decisions aside)
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12 Mar 2017, 03:03 PM
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For the first time in a long time, the bold Brendan made a big tactical error today. Taking off Armstrong for Griffiths turned the game.
yup. Wrong move. We lost the midfield battle after that. It should have been Eboue.
No. He should have left it alone. We were fine, Outsmarted himself today. When Roberts was coming on you saw Armstrong running over to the bench. I think he may have had an injury of some sort as he was off minutes later.
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No. He should have left it alone. We were fine, Outsmarted himself today.
When Roberts was coming on you saw Armstrong running over to the bench. I think he may have had an injury of some sort as he was off minutes later. He should have brought on Eboue then and shunted McGregor further up. We completely lost our shape.
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