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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,140 Views)
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The thing is they love Gerrard and he is the guy who fecked up and cost them the title.
Every player makes mistakes ffs - Never understand why mistakes are held against great players who have been superb for their club and I say that as someone who cgaf about Liverpool or Gerrard - Billy McNeill fecked up disastrously against AC Milan and Feyenoord the latter caused the goal that decided the Big Cup - Do we have a pop at him about that and instead of loving him call him for all sorts?
I know every player makes a mistake. The thing is they seem to blame BR for not winning the league, when it wasn't his fault and he got within a miscontroled ball from the title.
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Every player makes mistakes ffs - Never understand why mistakes are held against great players who have been superb for their club and as I say that as someone who cgaf about Liverpool or Gerrard - Billy McNeill fecked up badly against both AC Milan and Feyenoord the latter caused the goal that decided the Big Cup - Do we have a pop at him about that and instead of loving him call him for all sorts?
Tbf Greenjedi has called the great man an Uncle Tim.
As I will call out ANYBODY who takes money to slag us off!
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Every player makes mistakes ffs - Never understand why mistakes are held against great players who have been superb for their club and I say that as someone who cgaf about Liverpool or Gerrard - Billy McNeill fecked up disastrously against AC Milan and Feyenoord the latter caused the goal that decided the Big Cup - Do we have a pop at him about that and instead of loving him call him for all sorts?
I know every player makes a mistake. The thing is they seem to blame BR for not winning the league, when it wasn't his fault and he got within a miscontroled ball from the title.
The collapse at Palace certainly didn't help either...
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I think folk are being overly critical of some Liverpool fans and looking at Brendan through rose tinted glasses. Yes he has been absolutely inmense for us but that doesn't mean to say he didn't make some almighty cock-ups during his time at Liverpool or do other things that resulted in him being an easy target for parodies and ridicule. The man became a walking and talking meme ffs. His experiences at Liverpool has not only made him a better coach but someone who deals with the media more cannily. Isn't it brilliant that we are benefitting from those lessons?
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I know every player makes a mistake. The thing is they seem to blame BR for not winning the league, when it wasn't his fault and he got within a miscontroled ball from the title.
The collapse at Palace certainly didn't help either...
True, but if they drew against Chelsea I don't think that would have happened. Their heads were gone
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I think folk are being overly critical of some Liverpool fans and looking at Brendan through rose tinted glasses. Yes he has been absolutely inmense for us but that doesn't mean to say he didn't make some almighty cock-ups during his time at Liverpool or do other things that resulted in him being an easy target for parodies and ridicule. The man became a walking and talking meme ffs. His experiences at Liverpool has not only made him a better coach but someone who deals with the media more cannily. Isn't it brilliant that we are benefitting from those lessons?
Correct. His team also lost 6 goals to stoke ffs. The Liverpool fans are entitled to see things from their own perspective.


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They extended Klopp's contract by 4 years last summer as well 😶 so glad they punted Brendan and we have him now :chuffed:
In all fairness, Klopp hasn't had Luis Suarez - which is a pretty big factor.
Klopp also has failed to get the best out of Sturridge and the Pool defence is horrific. He hasn't improved Liverpool at all. Fair enough regarding Surarez but as LS has said himself, Rodgers made him a better player.
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They extended Klopp's contract by 4 years last summer as well 😶 so glad they punted Brendan and we have him now :chuffed:
In all fairness, Klopp hasn't had Luis Suarez - which is a pretty big factor.
Not having a go at you here, this is just something that seems to come up a lot and I don't really get it. Guardiola has inherited some of the best players in the world at every club he's been with, and still gets called one of the best managers in the world. Plenty of managers wouldn't have achieved the success they did if it wasn't for a world class player or two at the club.

Suarez aside, Brendan's Liverpool side were average to good players who played out of their skin that season they came close to winning the title, yet any time he's praised for it, the Suarez excuse comes out. I think it's very harsh on the man.
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They extended Klopp's contract by 4 years last summer as well 😶 so glad they punted Brendan and we have him now :chuffed:
In all fairness, Klopp hasn't had Luis Suarez - which is a pretty big factor.
Not having a go at you here, this is just something that seems to come up a lot and I don't really get it. Guardiola has inherited some of the best players in the world at every club he's been with, and still gets called one of the best managers in the world. Plenty of managers wouldn't have achieved the success they did if it wasn't for a world class player or two at the club.

Suarez aside, Brendan's Liverpool side were average to good players who played out of their skin that season they came close to winning the title, yet any time he's praised for it, the Suarez excuse comes out. I think it's very harsh on the man.
Agreed.
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Tbf Greenjedi has called the great man an Uncle Tim.
As I will call out ANYBODY who takes money to slag us off!
Did Billy slag us off? :ponder:
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They extended Klopp's contract by 4 years last summer as well 😶 so glad they punted Brendan and we have him now :chuffed:
In all fairness, Klopp hasn't had Luis Suarez - which is a pretty big factor.
Not having a go at you here, this is just something that seems to come up a lot and I don't really get it. Guardiola has inherited some of the best players in the world at every club he's been with, and still gets called one of the best managers in the world. Plenty of managers wouldn't have achieved the success they did if it wasn't for a world class player or two at the club.

Suarez aside, Brendan's Liverpool side were average to good players who played out of their skin that season they came close to winning the title, yet any time he's praised for it, the Suarez excuse comes out. I think it's very harsh on the man.
Agree with this.

There are 10 other players on the pitch as well as another 20+ in the squad and a whole backroom team as well as boardroom personnel to be managed.

Sure, Suarez was a big factor. Brendan was a bigger factor.
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Did Billy slag us off? :ponder:
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not to the extent of andy walker to be fair. :lol:
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They extended Klopp's contract by 4 years last summer as well 😶 so glad they punted Brendan and we have him now :chuffed:
In all fairness, Klopp hasn't had Luis Suarez - which is a pretty big factor.
Not having a go at you here, this is just something that seems to come up a lot and I don't really get it. Guardiola has inherited some of the best players in the world at every club he's been with, and still gets called one of the best managers in the world. Plenty of managers wouldn't have achieved the success they did if it wasn't for a world class player or two at the club.

Suarez aside, Brendan's Liverpool side were average to good players who played out of their skin that season they came close to winning the title, yet any time he's praised for it, the Suarez excuse comes out. I think it's very harsh on the man.
That isn't the point I was making though. Rodgers done a terrific job for Liverpool. I think he was treated very harshly - but hey, their loss is our gain. But to compare Rodgers and Klopp directly is a tad unfair since Rodgers had it his disposal one of the best three players in the world - as he has proven at Barca. Klopp doesn't have that luxury - he does have the players to beat the likes of Hull and Swansea right enough.
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Starting to think griffiths is done for now and will get punted in the summer.
What was said? :ponder:
Rodgers was in the studio, sitting with McCann, Lennon and Tanner.

Was an excellent 'interview' though not the usual post-match format. Very conversational but educational. Rodgers has razor sharp analysis skills.

Tanner took the opportunity to ask about Griffiths. I thought Rodgers' response was pretty positive. He said that Griffiths has a big part to play in what 'we' are trying to achieve here.

He was pretty complimentary about Griffiths in terms of his ability and talent. However, he said that, like a few of the scottish players, he may be happy to just achieve a certain level while the very top players, once they reach their natural level best, push themselves higher and drive on to achieve even more.

He made it clear that Griffiths needs to do this if he is to achieve his optimum level in the game.

The whole thing lasted 15, maybe 20 minutes. Anyone who missed it should look it out.
Will do :thumbsup:
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The main reason Liverpool lost the league that year was Gerrard's slip against Chelsea. Now Gerrard had obviously played an important part in getting them to a position where they could have won the league so he can hardly have all the blame pinned on him, but he's (rightly) a legend at that club and their supporters would naturally prefer to blame someone else rather than criticise their idol, hence Rodgers got the blame instead. It's unfair but it's the nature of the game.

We've benefitted massively from it, so frankly I CGAF about how Liverpool supporters feel.

Klopp incidentally has fecking huge amounts of money at his disposal. If he hasn't been able to identify and sign a replacement for Suarez in the last 12 months, that's also not Brendan Rodgers' fault.
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The main reason Liverpool lost the league that year was Gerrard's slip against Chelsea. Now Gerrard had obviously played an important part in getting them to a position where they could have won the league so he can hardly have all the blame pinned on him, but he's (rightly) a legend at that club and their supporters would naturally prefer to blame someone else rather than criticise their idol, hence Rodgers got the blame instead. It's unfair but it's the nature of the game.

We've benefitted massively from it, so frankly I CGAF about how Liverpool supporters feel.

Klopp incidentally has fecking huge amounts of money at his disposal. If he hasn't been able to identify and sign a replacement for Suarez in the last 12 months, that's also not Brendan Rodgers' fault.
Agree. But the comparisons between the win records are a little daft - it would be like comparing Martin O'Neill and Gordon Strachan when one had Larsson and the other didn't. The difference between how Rodgers was regarded by Liverpool fans and us - snobbery imo. Liverpool fans felt Rodgers was lucky to manage them. We, on the other hand, feel we are lucky to be managed by Rodgers.
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not to the extent of andy walker to be fair. :lol:
Never a reader of the sun even when not reading it became fashionable.

Wow did not realise that.

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I've always felt Rodgers made an arse of it that day against Chelsea. His team were flying, but he went all out attack to beat a Chelsea team who weren't overly bothered about coming out their half. If he'd been a bit more pragmatic he'd have taken the draw and then beat Palace and whoever it was on the last day and won the league.

Gerrard slipping can't be planned for, but it's questionable why there was no-one behind to cover him against a counter attacking team like Chelsea were then.

He still took them closer to winning it than anyone else and I don't really get why they hate him so much. Our gain, though.
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Never realised Billy had a column in the S*n ffs!

That's right bad craic.
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Never realised Billy had a column in the S*n ffs!

That's right bad craic.
Billy who? :ponder:
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