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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,251 Views)
Kingslim
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Cisnox
15 Sep 2016, 11:57 AM
Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 11:46 AM
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15 Sep 2016, 11:42 AM

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Mulgrew was at LM.

We played Miku and Sammy up front.

Could have been 4-4-1-1 but both played high up the park
Apologies - looks like you're right! :thumbsup:

No worries :thumbsup:
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Joseph D. Pistone
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So... Manager of the month, now he's a dick?
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15 Sep 2016, 07:48 AM
It will be interesting to see how we do against Man City and BMG, I'm fearing the worst and hoping for the best. I really do hope that was a one of freak result
We *shouldn't* get a doing from anyone at home but I do worry about our last game away at City..... Hopefully they're qualified safely by then and can field a weakened team :lol:
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Joseph D. Pistone
15 Sep 2016, 12:00 PM
So... Manager of the month, now he's a dick?
Nobody said he was a dick. He got it wrong on Tuesday night with an unfamiliar back line that included a player just in the door and making his club debut, and presided over a humiliation. Furthermore, his confidence in his new goalkeeper is not being borne out by evidence on the park.
Edited by The Plainsman, 15 Sep 2016, 12:04 PM.
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Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 11:58 AM
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Endemic failure away from home in Europe won't be fixed by Rodgers overnight
We've played Imps, Astana and Hapoel away and been beyond hopeless in two of those matches and a little fortunate in the other.

Throw in a 7-0 Mauling and it's been far from convincing.

Can't argue with any of that but he's not long in the job, early qualifiers and only started building his team.
I think he'll get there in Europe but maybe not this time. He won't want too many more humpings on his CV.
Neither do I :thumbsup:
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Cisnox
15 Sep 2016, 11:59 AM
Still looks to me like we had a back 5 though. This is a still frame early second half of the match, I don't know who is the RB position, but you can see Lustig tucked in as a CB

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Commons. He effectively played as an auxiliary right back the whole game.

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remy mcswain
15 Sep 2016, 12:11 PM
Cisnox
15 Sep 2016, 11:59 AM
Still looks to me like we had a back 5 though. This is a still frame early second half of the match, I don't know who is the RB position, but you can see Lustig tucked in as a CB

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Commons. He effectively played as an auxiliary right back the whole game.

Commons put in a great shift that night
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Don't expect him to beat Barcelona, City home or away. Its what we do against the Germans that will determine if we finish 3rd, Even that I don't mind. Brendan Rodgers champions league campaign was a success the minute we qualified. Regardless of what happens in the 6 games after. The team and Celtic overall is in the best shape its been in for years. Don't let a hammering at the best team in the world tell you otherwise
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15 Sep 2016, 10:22 AM
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15 Sep 2016, 06:52 AM
Cisnox
15 Sep 2016, 06:40 AM
Didn't Lennon play 5-4-1 against Barcelona? The reason it's used is because they don't cross the ball, so you play 3 in the middle to try and keep them out wide with no way in.

I dont think there was any other way to set up, the players just didn't play well.
I was surprised at the selection of both Gamboa & Roberts. Neither should have played. I understand wanting to play 5 at the back so probably Lustig at right back & bringing O'Connel in would have been better. I heard Neil Lennon on Talksport on Tuesday saying that you really need your goalkeeper to play well in these games & that is very true. We need to invest in a proper goalkeeper for next season that's for sure. How much was Forster sold for & how much have we spent on trying to replace him? There you go then.
I may be purely speculating but I have a feeling there may be a clause in Roberts' loan contract that he has to start CL games for his (and Man City's) development
That'd be against the rules - one team can't try to influence another club's team selection
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15 Sep 2016, 11:13 AM
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15 Sep 2016, 11:09 AM
Same with the goalie. There's no way on the evidence that De Vries was his first choice goalkeeper. Whoever it was fell through and Rodgers had decided Gordon wasn't good enough, so we signed a stop gap. That's the way I see it at the moment - nothing about Dorus inspires confidence.
Not sure about De Vries being a stopgap - BR tried to sign him at Liverpool too so obviously rates him highly (bewildering why). He was probably 1st choice.
I too get the impression that Rodgers thinks DDV is the mutts nuts.
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Cisnox
15 Sep 2016, 11:59 AM
Still looks to me like we had a back 5 though. This is a still frame early second half of the match, I don't know who is the RB position, but you can see Lustig tucked in as a CB

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Can't see it at work on this shampooty computer but we definitely set up with 4 at the back.

I also remember Lenny getting Kudos for being brave to go with two up top.
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On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
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Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 01:59 PM
On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
If your '2' is Bitton and Brown we will be losing every CL game
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Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 11:33 AM
needs to deliver an away performance in Europe.

we've not been good in any away games yet.

This was always my fear with Rodgers to be honest.
We got an excellent result in Astana.
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warbleshinney
15 Sep 2016, 02:16 PM
Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 01:59 PM
On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
If your '2' is Bitton and Brown we will be losing every CL game
With what we've got and what we're up against, I can't see anything other than a compact, busy 3 in central midfield being the best approach for these games against superior teams. Sacrificing one of these to go to a back 5 you'd think won't be experimented with again - the unfortunate thing is it means I don't see a way to accommodate Rogic. I'd think it would have to be Brown, Bitton and McGregor/Armstrong. So no Rogic unless a winger's getting dropped.
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I actually think Rogic in the middle would be a better bet, can use his body better to get the ball out of tighter spots and will spot a ball to our wide/front men a lot quicker.
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Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 01:59 PM
On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
One of the good things that BR has brought is the ability to change formations to suit the circumstances. It's paid off well on a number of occasions so far.

I wouldn't like to see us go back to playing one system week in, week out, as we did under RD. It would make us much more predictable and easy to play against.
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15 Sep 2016, 02:23 PM
Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 11:33 AM
needs to deliver an away performance in Europe.

we've not been good in any away games yet.

This was always my fear with Rodgers to be honest.
We got an excellent result in Astana.
Yeah they result was good but the performance wasn't great.

I'm not having a go at him. I'm more than happy with what he's done so far - just feel we need to start being better away from home. He's had 4 bites at the cherry now.
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Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 01:59 PM
On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
One of the good things that BR has brought is the ability to change formations to suit the circumstances. It's paid off well on a number of occasions so far.

I wouldn't like to see us go back to playing one system week in, week out, as we did under RD. It would make us much more predictable and easy to play against.
Just meant in the CL games.

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arklys
15 Sep 2016, 02:26 PM
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15 Sep 2016, 02:16 PM
Kingslim
15 Sep 2016, 01:59 PM
On paper we should probably be losing every game in this group, so I wouldn't use it as a stick to beat him with.

I think I would prefer us to go with the 4-2-3-1 in every game from now on. We seem to play our best football in that formation and we are more compact given the extra bodies in midfield.
If your '2' is Bitton and Brown we will be losing every CL game
With what we've got and what we're up against, I can't see anything other than a compact, busy 3 in central midfield being the best approach for these games against superior teams. Sacrificing one of these to go to a back 5 you'd think won't be experimented with again - the unfortunate thing is it means I don't see a way to accommodate Rogic. I'd think it would have to be Brown, Bitton and McGregor/Armstrong. So no Rogic unless a winger's getting dropped.
Yes, a 'busy' 3 in central midfield (Brown, Armstrong and Henderson) would be good with Rogic just sitting in front of them and Sinclair and Dembele running the channels up front.

Bring on Roberts at some point and McGregor/Biton.

Risky with Henderson but we don't have much choice.
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