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| Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic" | |
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| Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,254 Views) | |
| fatboab | 14 Sep 2016, 11:10 AM Post #6501 |
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Brendan made a couple of questionable calls last night, notably changing the shape to a back 5 , and including a debutant in Gamboa . Also, as others have pointed out, only having 2 recognised midfielders allowed Barca to play so high up the pitch, we had no space to get out at times. He didn't have huge options, to be fair, and the last day of the window's failure to secure a strong midfielder added to our woes. How he deals with adversity will tell us more about him than any amount of domestic successes though. I hope when Man City come calling that we have learned something about how we have to play in these games. Time will tell. |
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| M1K3Y89 | 14 Sep 2016, 11:12 AM Post #6502 |
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Considering retirement
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Would rather he made the mistakes in Camp Nou than anywhere else to be honest. |
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| esme stuart | 14 Sep 2016, 11:34 AM Post #6503 |
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Occasional Substitute
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Ryan Christie, Kris Commons, Scott Allen, GMS,..there's another 4 for you, all with admirable set skills that unfortunately don't include defensive capabilities. Another post pointed out the 0-1 reverse recently had Ledley and Wanyama in there who were able to offer protection to a defence that included Efe. My point is, of the 12 or so mids on our books, only Brown and Bitton are recognised as POTENTIALLY having defensive qualities...and frankly my heart sinks when these 2 are paired together. We need to revamp the midfield in January so that some are replaced with guys that realise part of the remit of that area of the team is to offer protection to the defence. |
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| tinytim81 | 14 Sep 2016, 11:49 AM Post #6504 |
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I agree although I'm not sure if we'll ever manage to get into the knockout stages again unless we improve dramatically and get a half decent draw. It's amazing to think in the last twelve years we have drawn Barcelona in Europe seven or eight times and within that period (from Guardiola through to the present day) they have basically become the greatest football team of all time. Brutal that we're always up against them. |
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| Govan Super Casino | 14 Sep 2016, 11:51 AM Post #6505 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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We do need a revamp but that's a completely different point and one we can do nothing about right now. Ledley was the best goal scoring MF we've had in years and bar the Juve game Efe was excellent that CL campaign. Brown and Bitton were superb defensively in 14/15, Armstrong, Forrest and Sinclair are capable of tracking back and winning the ball. Playing an extra defender doesn't necessarily make you stronger in defence. We had options and the manager chose the wrong one. There's a reason teams don't play back 5's against Barca. |
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| OzzyBhoy | 14 Sep 2016, 11:53 AM Post #6506 |
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First-team starter
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I'd be stunned if we signed Hourihane. Quality player. |
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| ronny_is_not_da_man | 14 Sep 2016, 11:53 AM Post #6507 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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He knows what he needs. This will just re-affirm that. If it isn't sorted for the next qualifiers then questions need to be asked why. |
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| Midfield Maestro | 14 Sep 2016, 11:57 AM Post #6508 |
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We've got through to the last 16 with a team including Caldwell, McManus, Naylor, Telfer, Hartley and Robson. We can do it again. It will take lots of improvement (particularly when it comes to our defensive shape), a few quality additions to the squad and a lot more nous, which will come by playing at this level. It is beyond us this year but it is not beyond us in structural terms (yet). |
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| Midfield Maestro | 14 Sep 2016, 11:59 AM Post #6509 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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I will never be stunned by us signing a player from Barnsley. |
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| The Wizard of Tim | 14 Sep 2016, 11:59 AM Post #6510 |
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First-team starter
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Totally agree but I think BR knows it too- This will not be our midfield for CL qualifiers next year |
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| tinytim81 | 14 Sep 2016, 12:13 PM Post #6511 |
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My concern is that Rodgers just doesn't set his teams up to win ugly. He always tries to get the goals which is great but sometimes you just have to park a tank. We've conceded in ten out of twelve games. I'm not sure the defence will ever look really good no matter who we bring in. Still, it's very exciting. Edited by tinytim81, 14 Sep 2016, 12:22 PM.
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| Haitch | 14 Sep 2016, 12:24 PM Post #6512 |
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Considering retirement
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Biggest mistake he made last night for me was playing De Vries. We were never going to have a lot of possession therefore we should have played our best shot stopper. |
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| SuperHans67 | 14 Sep 2016, 02:46 PM Post #6513 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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I was happy enough with the team, he probably would have went with another midfielder had we signed one. Gamboa was poor but he's just in the door. I don't think the 5 other games will be anything like that, Barca are on another level even from City imo and we will be able to assert ourselves in the next 3 games. Agree with Flawless on the goalkeeper, I think he could have been better last night. Didn't move his feet for the free kick at all. |
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| Kingslim | 14 Sep 2016, 02:49 PM Post #6514 |
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69 and counting
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The record books don't care if it's Barca or Bratislava 7-0 is our record European defeat, throw in the Imps then you have the two worst results we've ever had. |
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| tinytim81 | 14 Sep 2016, 02:51 PM Post #6515 |
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Barca are on another level even from City imo and we will be able to assert ourselves in the next 3 games This is my hope as well. Maybe we can land a few blows. |
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| rastabhoy | 14 Sep 2016, 02:53 PM Post #6516 |
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Stand Down Campbell!
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Hear, hear. Not an impressive start to his Celtic career. |
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| Paul Allen | 14 Sep 2016, 04:20 PM Post #6517 |
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Someone said it in the pre-match thread but theoretically a least - though obviously it's different in an actual game - playing 3/5 at the back is the wrong move against a 4-3-3. You end up with too many spare men in defence and not enough bodies elsewhere (midfield), which is even more pronounced against a side who don't use a proper centre-forward The back 3 were often standing in a line with no one to mark, with Barca's runners coming from deep. Would have made more sense to pack midfield but as others have said, not many options there. It also might not have made much difference to the fact they looked frightened by the occasion. |
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| The Gorbals Urchin | 14 Sep 2016, 04:22 PM Post #6518 |
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Really needs to get the defence and midfield tighter for Europe. |
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| hazy | 14 Sep 2016, 05:43 PM Post #6519 |
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Getting on a bit
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What record books are these? If they happen to exist they need to sort their methodology out, as context seems to matter for the Imps result but is ignored for Barcelona
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| riclaroc | 14 Sep 2016, 05:51 PM Post #6520 |
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A sophist and a demagogue
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What if we were to sign Janko ... ? |
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