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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,285 Views)
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24 Aug 2016, 03:04 PM
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24 Aug 2016, 02:51 PM
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24 Aug 2016, 02:24 PM

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That's nonsense.

Moyes took the Champions to 7th, Van Gaal took them to 4th the following season.

LVG failed in his second season, but that he got a second season suggests he did better than Moyes.
I would disagree with that. Moyes was sacked after only a few months in charge. Comparing him head to head with Van Gaal over that time period, he was actually a few league points better off. And also, LVG spent a ton of money on players.

If Moyes had been given the same time and Money, then a fair comparison could be made.
That's just not true.

Moyes inherited the Champions of England.
He was sacked 34 matches into the season.
His side had 57 points, and sat 7th in the table.
The following season Utd after 34 matches had 65 points, and sat 4th in the table.

Poor Davie.
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Big difference for me apart from Rodgers being a top manager, is Deila messed up 90% of his signings while Rodgers has everyone spot on so far...
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24 Aug 2016, 01:24 PM
He was a bawhair away from losing the faith of the multitudes,the multitudes are like that.
No he wasn't.
If we had lost 3-0 to go out after going into a second leg 3 goals ahead there would be questions asked-No?

Of course we held on for 2-0 and the rest is history.
The margins are wafer thin
There would have been major disappointment and plenty of flack flying around him and his players but he would not have lost the multitudes- Ffs they put up with Deila track record in Europe -In reality we had no choice and he should have been hunted there and then bar for the fact he was Pete's Project.

The margins are thin but over the two ties we gave them all their "in's" - I trust Rodgers is backed will eradicate them - Keeper,RB position,dominant experienced midfielder and hooefully another striker with a shedload of dross getting shipped out - Ronny can have them on bogof.
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24 Aug 2016, 03:19 PM
Getting us over the line and into the CL groups was his first and probably most difficult task. Well done.
100%

Last night was the most important game of the season.
We qualified-no thursday night football, money in the bank, club energised.

I expect all other "big" games this season to take care of themselves
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24 Aug 2016, 02:42 PM
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24 Aug 2016, 01:46 PM
I work with a Liverpool fan who thinks Rodgers is a far better manager than Klopp on what he has seen
Klopp has won the Bundesliga twice - what's the criteria here?
Liverpool performances. Its the only thing both managers have in common... :thumbsup:
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24 Aug 2016, 04:10 PM

We qualified-no thursday night football,

very important extra there. By qualifying we will play Tue/Wed - Saturday. Should mean for bigger home gates and no playing catch up, should the need arise.
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Yeah, can't be understated how hard these ties are, highest pressure matches we will play all season unless we go on some incredible run in the Europa League, and right at the start. In comparison, the Glasgow derbies will take care of themselves to some extent.

We do have a financial advantage over most teams we can play at this stage (as long as we are seeded at least), but commensurate with that is the higher pressure and expectation on the players.

It's a real achievement to get in with that piss poor squad.
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24 Aug 2016, 05:13 PM
Yeah, can't be understated how hard these ties are, highest pressure matches we will play all season unless we go on some incredible run in the Europa League, and right at the start. In comparison, the Glasgow derbies will take care of themselves to some extent.

We do have a financial advantage over most teams we can play at this stage (as long as we are seeded at least), but commensurate with that is the higher pressure and expectation on the players.

It's a real achievement to get in with that piss poor squad.

Aye, Partick haven't had a great start to the season
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I wanted Moyes and publicly said so.

All I can say is I'm glad things have worked out the way they have so far. :thumbsup:
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24 Aug 2016, 02:38 PM
FWIW - I think Brendan has done fantastically well so far.
His No. 1 target for the financial wellbeing of the club is getting to the champions league.
He's done that.
Winning the league should be a given - additional cups are the cherries on top.
So, thus far he has done exactly as we hoped he would.
It's not been pretty all along the way - but last nights result was massive.
It will have bought Brendan a load of goodwill with both fans and board.
Great stuff.

I still don't understand some of his tactical choices though.
If the plan was to sit in and soak up pressure - why didn't we start with Lustig at RB?
I mean, at CP last week, we were built to attack - 2 fast wide men, and only one DM in the form of Brown.
Last night, it seemed like we surrendered possession, but also meant to play more compact - so why the need for the pacy, but so far unreliable Janko?
Why not Erik in at CB instead of O'Connell if he wanted to make that change?
Was it due to the injuries - ie Erik just coming back, so he didn't want to start him?
Not having Lustig in at RB would also maybe give him an easier night of it too?
I know Janko is the easy target here - but I haven't seen Lustig make the kind of errors we've seen Janko, or indeed Efe make.
So why chuck him into the CB position?
IF he wanted to go 3 at the back with Lustig, he could do that anytime with Janko on the bench?


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Who was it that said that his voice 'soothed them'?

They got that absolutely spot on!

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24 Aug 2016, 05:27 PM
BombJack
24 Aug 2016, 02:38 PM
FWIW - I think Brendan has done fantastically well so far.
His No. 1 target for the financial wellbeing of the club is getting to the champions league.
He's done that.
Winning the league should be a given - additional cups are the cherries on top.
So, thus far he has done exactly as we hoped he would.
It's not been pretty all along the way - but last nights result was massive.
It will have bought Brendan a load of goodwill with both fans and board.
Great stuff.

I still don't understand some of his tactical choices though.
If the plan was to sit in and soak up pressure - why didn't we start with Lustig at RB?
I mean, at CP last week, we were built to attack - 2 fast wide men, and only one DM in the form of Brown.
Last night, it seemed like we surrendered possession, but also meant to play more compact - so why the need for the pacy, but so far unreliable Janko?
Why not Erik in at CB instead of O'Connell if he wanted to make that change?
Was it due to the injuries - ie Erik just coming back, so he didn't want to start him?
Not having Lustig in at RB would also maybe give him an easier night of it too?
I know Janko is the easy target here - but I haven't seen Lustig make the kind of errors we've seen Janko, or indeed Efe make.
So why chuck him into the CB position?
IF he wanted to go 3 at the back with Lustig, he could do that anytime with Janko on the bench?


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Credit to Rodgers. He got us to the Champions League which I doubted he would do in his first year. Over 180 minutes - we beat them 5-4. The Israelis were good enough to beat Olympiacos and Astana were good enough to pick up some points in the Champions League last season. At times in the past, teams that I thought were European minnows such as Maribor, Salzburg and Basel beat Celtic had then went on to have fair success in european football. I wouldn't be surprised if Beer Sheva put on a respectable or impressive Europa campaign.

BR is still working with a largely bloated, average and mentally inconsistent group of players that he inherited. All of the signings he has made have been spot on. I have no doubt we will be much stronger after the January transfer window and a run at the champions league group phase.
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ootmaheid
24 Aug 2016, 05:31 PM
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24 Aug 2016, 05:27 PM
BombJack
24 Aug 2016, 02:38 PM
FWIW - I think Brendan has done fantastically well so far.
His No. 1 target for the financial wellbeing of the club is getting to the champions league.
He's done that.
Winning the league should be a given - additional cups are the cherries on top.
So, thus far he has done exactly as we hoped he would.
It's not been pretty all along the way - but last nights result was massive.
It will have bought Brendan a load of goodwill with both fans and board.
Great stuff.

I still don't understand some of his tactical choices though.
If the plan was to sit in and soak up pressure - why didn't we start with Lustig at RB?
I mean, at CP last week, we were built to attack - 2 fast wide men, and only one DM in the form of Brown.
Last night, it seemed like we surrendered possession, but also meant to play more compact - so why the need for the pacy, but so far unreliable Janko?
Why not Erik in at CB instead of O'Connell if he wanted to make that change?
Was it due to the injuries - ie Erik just coming back, so he didn't want to start him?
Not having Lustig in at RB would also maybe give him an easier night of it too?
I know Janko is the easy target here - but I haven't seen Lustig make the kind of errors we've seen Janko, or indeed Efe make.
So why chuck him into the CB position?
IF he wanted to go 3 at the back with Lustig, he could do that anytime with Janko on the bench?


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24 Aug 2016, 05:29 PM
Who was it that said that his voice 'soothed them'?

They got that absolutely spot on!

:lol:
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24 Aug 2016, 05:27 PM
BombJack
24 Aug 2016, 02:38 PM
FWIW - I think Brendan has done fantastically well so far.
His No. 1 target for the financial wellbeing of the club is getting to the champions league.
He's done that.
Winning the league should be a given - additional cups are the cherries on top.
So, thus far he has done exactly as we hoped he would.
It's not been pretty all along the way - but last nights result was massive.
It will have bought Brendan a load of goodwill with both fans and board.
Great stuff.

I still don't understand some of his tactical choices though.
If the plan was to sit in and soak up pressure - why didn't we start with Lustig at RB?
I mean, at CP last week, we were built to attack - 2 fast wide men, and only one DM in the form of Brown.
Last night, it seemed like we surrendered possession, but also meant to play more compact - so why the need for the pacy, but so far unreliable Janko?
Why not Erik in at CB instead of O'Connell if he wanted to make that change?
Was it due to the injuries - ie Erik just coming back, so he didn't want to start him?
Not having Lustig in at RB would also maybe give him an easier night of it too?
I know Janko is the easy target here - but I haven't seen Lustig make the kind of errors we've seen Janko, or indeed Efe make.
So why chuck him into the CB position?
IF he wanted to go 3 at the back with Lustig, he could do that anytime with Janko on the bench?


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Of all the days not to criticise the manager.

He's managed to put a spine in this god forsaken bunch and with a few astute signings will improve us. His aim was to get us there and he did.

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BRENDAN RODGERS last night paid a warm and unexpected tribute to the work done by his predecessor at Celtic Ronnie Deila who the new manager believes left him a base which helped him reach the Champions League.

The Norwegian, who failed twice to take the club to the group stages, would have been one of the last names on the minds of supporters when the final whistle went in Israel which meant the 2-0 defeat at the hands of Hapoel Be’er Sheva was a good enough result.

Deila’s reign was tainted by his shortcomings in the competition, while Rodgers got through qualification at the first time of asking; however, the Northern Irishman was quick to heap what he believed was deserved praise on the man who came before him.

“I would like to say thank you to Ronny,” said Rodgers. “Because I don’t get the chance to qualify for the Champions League if he doesn’t win the league – and he won the league last year.

“So amongst the thanks I want to say a particular thank you to him and his staff because that gives me the chance to come into the club when he decided to move on and try to take the team forward.

“They have made huge strides, but they will still be a way to go before they will be where I want them to be.

“I think Tuesday night showed all the work they have been doing, the long hours, all the tactical work, all the psychological work in terms of getting that resistance to anything thrown at you. You get your rewards on the field and that’s where we want to see them.”

Rodgers has added four players so far but only two of them, Kolo Toure and Erik Sviatchenko, began the match against Hapoel. He has been forced to work with those who have not played well at this stage in the previous two years and, so far, has got the best out of most of them.

“All I know is there were some good players and I have respect for other coaches and managers,” said the Celtic manager. “This is a huge job, a very, very tough job with the expectation of the club and where the club wants to be. With the riches now in football it’s very, very difficult.

“We haven’t spent nearly anything at all but we needed certain types of personalities in here and add them to the boys here. It’s just to give them a different way of thinking and working and they have responded magnificently. It’s a pleasure to work with them and hopefully it’s only the start for them.”

Rodgers now has the luxury of spending more money on more players given that the club is going to earn between £25m and £30 from the group stages, and that is on top of the transfer kitty he had anyway which he as he said he has hardly touched.

The club are not now going to rip up their philosophy of working with certain limits; however, Tuesday night was a game-changer in terms of the calibre of player that could be lure to the east end of Glasgow in the immediate future.

“There is a bit of work to do,” said Rodgers. “We’d obviously spoken about it (signing players) if qualification happens what it is we need, but the most important thing for Celtic is that it keeps improving what we have and keeping that momentum.

“Our club has built great momentum in a short period of time and we have to keep moving forward. That’ll mean bringing players in who will improve us, but we have done an awful lot of great work in this market.

“There is a bit of time to do some more and we’ll take some time over the next days to reflect on that and, hopefully, make some improvements.”

Celtic at the moment may be good enough to qualify for the Champions League, which was far from a sure thing, but the performance in Israel confirmed what most supporters already knew and that is the squad remains short of experience and some class.

However, Rodgers won’t be content with just being in the group stages and hoping to pick up a win here and there. He wants to get through to the last 16 just as Gordon Strachan and Neil Lennon did before him.

“I think we have to refocus on our goals,” he said. “We want to come out of the group. We are not in it just to participate. In order to get out the group you have to get in it. So our first job, which was a massive job, was to qualify. It’s an amazing experience to have gone through it.

“But now we are actually in it, it’s most probably going to be a difficult draw. We are in now with Europe’s elite. But we will be in it to try and qualify.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/14702658.Rodgers_thanks_Deila_for_building_foundations_of_Celtic__39_s_success/?ref=rss
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Rodgers has added four players so far but only two of them, Kolo Toure and Erik Sviatchenko, began the match against Hapoel
Sinclair started and Erik was on the bench. Another great piece of SMSM journalism.

Edit: too big
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So the Herald thinks Rodgers bought Sviatchenko then ? Hmmm...
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