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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,287 Views)
searcher52
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idyllwild
24 Aug 2016, 11:49 AM
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24 Aug 2016, 11:28 AM
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24 Aug 2016, 11:21 AM

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As I said previously, their second goal was a pure calamity which no manager could have done anything about. Maybe you think differently in which case please explain why.

His job was to qualify for the group stages of the CL with a dross of a squad after being in post for 95 (NINETY FIVE) days.

There's a whole crop of gameboy managers about here for sure.
It doesn't always need to be one or the other. I'd say he made a few mistakes last night, which seems to have been borne out by the evidence. And then he got it right, which also seems to have been borne out by the evidence.

Still, by all means you keep being angry at everything. :lol:
No one's angry - well not me at least. Just bemused that people feel qualified to second guess the manager over his selection/tactics/colour of tie etc. Let's save the nit picking till he's had more than 9 competitive games with the team.
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Job done. Well done. It was awful to watch, even Brendan thought so - "the longest football match of my life".

But we got the job done. I used to watch games back the next day or so (no time for that now...) and often wondered what the hell I was terrified of during the game. Wouldn't put myself through that with this one.

We've seen enough European games in our lives that we've lost out in. Even sometimes games we played well in.

I might have a watch again of the 5-2 highlights. I can now really enjoy the importance of all those goals.
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stibhan
24 Aug 2016, 12:08 PM
Hard to know whether the 'Israel' comment at the end of his press conference was manners or a sly dig at the fans?
why on earth would he have a sly dig at the fans? ffs, people look for the worst in everything. :nono:
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24 Aug 2016, 12:08 PM
Hard to know whether the 'Israel' comment at the end of his press conference was manners or a sly dig at the fans?
Did you expect him to say 'Your country is shampoo. Freedom for Palestine'?
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24 Aug 2016, 12:08 PM
Hard to know whether the 'Israel' comment at the end of his press conference was manners or a sly dig at the fans?
Probably truth, manners and a bit of good PR from BR. :thumbsup:
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He said the same thing when he was in Kazakhstan
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"Celtic could earn as much as £30million over the next few months, enough to sew up the domestic scene for many years, or so you would imagine, and it will allow Rodgers to go shopping in more expensive boutiques." :fatboab: :clap:


http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/14700115.Hapoel_Be_er_Sheva_2_Celtic_0__Agg__4_5_/


CELTIC have never played so badly and made so much money on the same night.

That fact Brendan Rodgers became the first Celtic manager to lead the club into the Champions league in his debut season on a night when his team saw off Hapoel Be’er Sheva meant this Israel play-off had a happy ending.

But his team for long worrying periods were second best by some distance in Israel. It was the ghost of away European games of the past come back to haunt the Northern Irishman who had nothing to do with previous games. Hapoel scored twice, missed plenty of chances, including a penalty, and will feel aggrieved.

And yet what is it they say? That football is all about results and this aggregate win is as important to the club as any in a long time came fittingly in ‘The Land of Milk and Honey’ because that is precisely what the group stages of the world’s most lucrative football competition are to the clubs involved.

Celtic could earn as much as £30million over the next few months, enough to sew up the domestic scene for many years, or so you would imagine, and it will allow Rodgers to go shopping in more expensive boutiques.

But once again the Celtic fans were made to suffer. They watched their team outplayed here. That 5-2 lead was under threat for so long and by the end the Scottish champions were hanging on as never before.

At least they are there. But there were quite a few found lacking. Rodgers needs to get in at least two more first-teamers or the group stages may be punishing.

Success, of course, at this level is never easy. From the start it was clear Hapoel had not given up hope. A minute had gone when James Forrest was outmuscled on the touchline by Ofir Davidzada, the ball was picked up by Ovidiu Hoban whose curling shot gave Craig Gordon his first piece of work for the evening.

And then after quarter of an hour the first glimpse of what was to become a long night for the Celtic defence.Herald Scotland: Celtic manager Brendan Rodgers has taken Celtic into the group stages of the UEFA Champions League. The club will find out their fate when the draw is made on Thursday.

Saido Janko has never convinced and the right back stuck out a leg and got nowhere near the ball as he tripped Davidzada just inside the box. Dutch referee Bas Nijhuis pointed to the spot, Maharan Raid went for power from 12 yards and Gordon guessed right and got his body behind the ball.

That blessed relief for Celtic lasted until the 21st minute when the old failings reappeared as a simple corner was not dealt with. Raid floated a ball into the six yard box and substitute Ben Sahar found it far too easy to get up and head the ball home.

There were quite a few players from the visitors who looked uncomfortable, no more than Janko who was all over the place. Hapoel are not brilliant but they can pass the ball and were finding so much space when last week there was none.

At least Griffiths got a shot on target after 33 minutes, the first time the ball had spent any time in the Israeli’s half. Then Janko to be his credit made a good run from deep and for once put his cross into the box where Sinclair got the ball but his effort was tame.

After some decent Hapoel pressure, the impressive Anthony Nwakaeme tested Gordon with a shot from outside the area, and then Celtic broke on 38 minutes, the ball was played from Sinclair, Griffiths, McGregor and eventually to Forrest who put his shot from close in over when a cross was the better option.

Rodgers would have welcomed half-time. Many of his players needed a not-so-gentle reminder what was at stake and that they had to up their games. Forrest was replaced by Tom Rogic. Janko stayed on and three minutes into the half was partly to blame for the second goal.

A nothing ball into the Celtic box should have been dealt with by Gordon who inexplicably allowed it to bounce, Janko barged into him, the ball got loose, Hoban said thanks very much and scored from close range. It was an excruciating moment for both defender and goalkeeper

Now what did Celtic have? It looked at this stage as if many had gone. They couldn’t pass or make a tackle. Rodgers understandably wore the look of a man who didn’t quite believe what was going on in front of him.

Moussa Dembele replaced the knackered Griffiths and on the hour the Frenchman cut in from the left and sent his curled shot a coat of paint wide of the post. Celtic nearly scored again four minutes later when Rogic did well to get a past a few tackles on the edge of the box, the ball broke to Sinclair who got off a shot, which was well save by David Goresh, and Dembele was in an offside position when he missed the rebound. Sinclair really should have done better

But still came Hapoel. A brilliant scissor-kick from Hoban on 68 minutes was a fraction wide and then he tested Gordon with a well executed shot on the bounce from outside the area.

Celtic, the fans, players and manager began praying for the final whistle; it was that part of the world after all. They got away with it, just.

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24 Aug 2016, 12:16 PM
stibhan
24 Aug 2016, 12:08 PM
Hard to know whether the 'Israel' comment at the end of his press conference was manners or a sly dig at the fans?
Did you expect him to say 'Your country is shampoo. Freedom for Palestine'?
:lol:

Brilliant.
Edited by allthewine, 24 Aug 2016, 12:25 PM.
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searcher52
24 Aug 2016, 12:11 PM
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24 Aug 2016, 11:49 AM
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24 Aug 2016, 11:28 AM

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It doesn't always need to be one or the other. I'd say he made a few mistakes last night, which seems to have been borne out by the evidence. And then he got it right, which also seems to have been borne out by the evidence.

Still, by all means you keep being angry at everything. :lol:
No one's angry - well not me at least. Just bemused that people feel qualified to second guess the manager over his selection/tactics/colour of tie etc. Let's save the nit picking till he's had more than 9 competitive games with the team.
He's not above criticism - anyone with half a brain and knows anything about football knows there were mistakes made last night.

Personally, I CGAF - last night was about getting us through. He's transformed the team from last season and the Imps game this year and he's signed decent players. He got lucky last night though which isn't a bad thing either.

He needs backed to the hilt and as far as I'm concerned he'd paid for himself already - he's been a great signing.
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24 Aug 2016, 10:35 AM
Quite taken aback by some of the snide criticisms of our manager (more in the post-match thread than here) from KDS's large coterie of Monday-morning quarterbacks, tactical geniuses and hurting lurkers, though I can't say I'm surprised. Brendan Rodgers inherited some of the poorest and most cowardly players I can recall in watching Celtic for the years that I have, and, with a few judicious additions, be has got us into the group stages at the first time of asking, a feat I thought would be impossible given the past two catastrophic years. The guy should be cheered from the rafters, not told he nearly blew it. Maybe he did ride his luck, but the better you are the luckier you get.

It's not as if we have sailed through qualifying when we HAVE managed to qualify in previous years -- a last-minute winner against Karagandy and penalties against Moscow spring to mind, both at home.

Rodgers has proved he knows what he's doing in the transfer market and should be given a proper budget. I can guarantee we'll qualify much more easily next year. :thumbsup:
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24 Aug 2016, 10:35 AM
Quite taken aback by some of the snide criticisms of our manager (more in the post-match thread than here) from KDS's large coterie of Monday-morning quarterbacks, tactical geniuses and hurting lurkers, though I can't say I'm surprised. Brendan Rodgers inherited some of the poorest and most cowardly players I can recall in watching Celtic for the years that I have, and, with a few judicious additions, be has got us into the group stages at the first time of asking, a feat I thought would be impossible given the past two catastrophic years. The guy should be cheered from the rafters, not told he nearly blew it. Maybe he did ride his luck, but the better you are the luckier you get.

It's not as if we have sailed through qualifying when we HAVE managed to qualify in previous years -- a last-minute winner against Karagandy and penalties against Moscow spring to mind, both at home.

Rodgers has proved he knows what he's doing in the transfer market and should be given a proper budget. I can guarantee we'll qualify much more easily next year. :thumbsup:
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ooooffft got lucky last night, poor team selection and tactics. However earned that luck by winning the 1st leg so well! A massive acheivment to get THAT squad of players into the group stage :clap: hopefully he is given the dough to clear 80% of them out over the next few windows.
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There were a few mumblings about the team selection in the thread ahead of last night's game, but on the whole, folk seemed fairly happy with it: http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/9312248/39/

Easy to be wise after the event.

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24 Aug 2016, 12:31 PM
ooooffft got lucky last night, poor team selection and tactics. However earned that luck by winning the 1st leg so well! A massive acheivment to get THAT squad of players into the group stage :clap: hopefully he is given the dough to clear 80% of them out over the next few windows.
To save people going back to find the right page, this is taken from his interview with the press the other day as written up in the Scotsman.


"He has the club’s faithful, and his squad, under his spell specifically because he is showing himself to be such an alchemist in awkward moments. The Scottish champions have certainly demonstrated tenacity to tug their way out of tight spots in their Champions League qualifying adventure – but that has always been underpinned by tactical change.
It was true in both legs against Astana, and profoundly so on Wednesday as Rodgers rejigged his team with three substitutes to turn an unpromising 3-2 first leg play-off outcome into a 5-2 victory. A result that, surely, will pave the way for group-stage representation to be secured when facing Hapoel Beer-Sheva in Tuesday’s Israeli return.

It was put to Rodgers the other day that the consistently progressive nature of his personnel switches could be likened to a cricketer forever willing to play his shots with his team in a pickle. It is said of these sorts that they ‘don’t die wondering’. “Always” that will be the sort of coach he will be, the 43-year-old maintained. It was a theme the former Liverpool manager warmed to as he set out, through his earliest days of a coaching career that began more than two decades ago, he was always going to be a self-made manager. “You are either a coach that waits, or creates,” Rodgers said. “And I come from the creative side. So I’ll never die wondering, or waiting. I always think, whether it is in life or whether it is in football, if you rely on yourself, then you can be happy.
Because at least if you fail, you fail on your terms. So that’s by creating, right. If I wait, I’m reliant on someone else. In life, you only rely on yourself, and the team and the people around you. “If I wanted to become a manager, I was never going to cry in a pub when I was 60, 65, ‘well [Jose] Mourinho never gave me a chance, or Luiz Felipe Scolari never gave me a chance, or Steve Coppell, or Alan Pardew, or Tommy Burns, or whoever’, the responsibility is with me – I have to create it. It’s like in a game, if you are wanting something, or feel it needs something, don’t 
wait for it, create it.
Sometimes it won’t need touched, sometimes you just wait for the momentum to change, to swing back again. But at 3-2 the other night I’m thinking, ‘we are really dominant in the game here, our little inexperience has 
cost us at the back here, has cost us the first goal’ but that has given 
them a bit of life, a bit of oxygen.

But we’ve enough quality on the pitch to hurt, so we then go a little more offensive. “With the momentum swinging [after Hapoel’s two goals in three minutes], as a coach you’re thinking what the other coach might be thinking, ‘well, at 3-2 we can maybe get something from the game’.

So you can go two ways: you can stick on a defender and consolidate what you have or you think, actually the space is going to open up even more, because they feel they’ve got something. So how can you swing the momentum back again, and sometimes in the game [if] you make offensive substitutions it can set the team on the front foot again.” Rodgers is striding forward with a team that had endured a year of regression under Ronny Deila. Aside from his flexibility and command of his domain, the Northern Irishman can be set aside from his predecessor in how he reflects on the “most difficult pre-season of my life so far”.


He also spoke the other day about taking 10 decisions and getting 8 right.

This is what you get from him. He is a calculated risk taker. He backs his own judgement and that's mighty fine for me at the moment.


Edited by searcher52, 24 Aug 2016, 12:43 PM.
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24 Aug 2016, 08:48 AM
Well done to Rodgers and his staff.

Lawwell needs to back him now. We still need at least 4 players and a load of dross shipped out.
the next week will be very exciting i feel
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Managed to get the worst Celtic team in 20 odd years into the Champions League inside 2 months.

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He was a bawhair away from losing the faith of the multitudes,the multitudes are like that.
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Fantastic achievement to get that mainly fragile squad into the CL proper. Well done BR.

Such a bizarre starting 11 that I can't help but think he didn't want an easy 0-0 or one goal victory/defeat confirmation with PL watching. Was he using his 3 goal advantage to try some things (best defence is attack etc.) and they almost backfired. Maybe PL thinks Saidy Janko is all he needs as cover for Lustig on the right and BR needed to educate him. Job done.
His 3rd change made the last spell relatively trouble free and only their 2 goals made it uncomfortable. I suspect he always knew that formation would mean least trouble for us so interesting to know why he didn't start with 5 at back and a more solid midfield (Sviatchenko just back from injury notwithstanding).

Anyway Job done.

Now to get rid of some, add a few more mentally strong players/leaders to the team and if we can scrape 3rd place then what an amazing first European campaign it will be.

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nowonder
24 Aug 2016, 01:24 PM
He was a bawhair away from losing the faith of the multitudes,the multitudes are like that.
No he wasn't.
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He was a bawhair away from losing the faith of the multitudes,the multitudes are like that.
No he wasn't.
Correct.
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