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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,367 Views)
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14 Jul 2016, 11:10 AM
You'd think that we'd have learned from Deila's first season that these qualifiers are not opportunities to introduce a new system or showcase your philosophy - they're about getting the job done. If Deila had stuck with Lenny's diamond for those first few games we might well have scraped through. If BR had played 442 or 352 we might well have won that game - then again the players were absolute shampooe as well
We played 4-4-2 for most of the second half. Griffiths was central with Dembele and Armstrong wide right of the four.

It didn't work any better because the midfield was absent.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepBrendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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Sutton pretty much said the exact same on TV after the game.
He's not daft, he knows what his column will have to say.

He's saying in advance what his ghostwriter is going to make up later?
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14 Jul 2016, 06:26 PM
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14 Jul 2016, 02:31 PM
Rodgers post match interview did have a bit of the Ronny about it. Mind you, Strachan used to do the same no matter how bad the team were.

MON never publicly attacked the team but at least you could see he was absolutely raging when they let him down. I really hope Rodgers tore them in pieces. If he didn't they'll begin to think that level of performance is acceptable.
Name a manager who publicly calls out his players and almost certainly you'll name a failure of a manager.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, perhaps the most famously hot tempered manager of all time, would say nothing in front of the media. Whenever you do see managers letting rip publicly it's usually a signal the beginning of the end for said manager. It may be frustrating for fans who are angry at players but you simply don't do it.
Absolutely. Guys like Ferguson and Mourinho, two of the most successful managers this century, would shift the blame onto everyone else but their players in front of the media, but you could be damn sure that it was different in the dressing room.

I couldn't give a toss what the manager says in public, as long as he has made his feelings abundantly clear behind closed doors and those he feels has let him and the club down most are nowhere to be seen on Wednesday night. That's going to be the real acid test. If guys like Ambrose, Brown, Bitton, Forrest, etc are still in the team for the second leg then I'll be disappointed and a tad concerned.
Edited by 33-rpm, 14 Jul 2016, 07:37 PM.
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14 Jul 2016, 06:26 PM
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14 Jul 2016, 02:31 PM
Rodgers post match interview did have a bit of the Ronny about it. Mind you, Strachan used to do the same no matter how bad the team were.

MON never publicly attacked the team but at least you could see he was absolutely raging when they let him down. I really hope Rodgers tore them in pieces. If he didn't they'll begin to think that level of performance is acceptable.
Name a manager who publicly calls out his players and almost certainly you'll name a failure of a manager.

Even Sir Alex Ferguson, perhaps the most famously hot tempered manager of all time, would say nothing in front of the media. Whenever you do see managers letting rip publicly it's usually a signal the beginning of the end for said manager. It may be frustrating for fans who are angry at players but you simply don't do it.
Hmmmmmmm...

https://youtu.be/0103jCmrjAA
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Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
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My main concern is that he is doing the exact same thing Deila did with Griffiths at first, playing him wide. Managers either don't seem to trust him or like his style of play, which is fair enough, but he's a guarantee of goals we don't have from Dembele yet.

Not that anyone was getting any service against the Imps anyway.
Edited by drks, 15 Jul 2016, 08:42 AM.
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Stein67
15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
Edited by oneillsrevolution, 15 Jul 2016, 09:05 AM.
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Stein67
15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
:lol: its a footballer's autobiography. He probably took ten minutes cover to cover.

Probably :suspect:
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Stein67
15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
Don't haud back ffs :lol:

FWIW, i found it interesting and it makes for a good comparison - the feel good factor has been utterly disintegrated and I think the fans will need to sit tight before we see his coaching pay off.
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I think when BR took over he must have been aware of what he was inheriting and knew a good bit of work was required to get Celtic back on track, to use an analogy he probably thought it would be akin to climbing Ben Nevis, but he must realise know that it is more a case of Mt Kilimanjaro, or maybe even Everest.
The squad is a total and utter clustereff, with a few exceptions, and everyone knows who they are.
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14 Jul 2016, 02:31 PM
Rodgers post match interview did have a bit of the Ronny about it. Mind you, Strachan used to do the same no matter how bad the team were.

MON never publicly attacked the team but at least you could see he was absolutely raging when they let him down. I really hope Rodgers tore them in pieces. If he didn't they'll begin to think that level of performance is acceptable.
Name a manager who publicly calls out his players and almost certainly you'll name a failure of a manager.
Neil Lennon after Ross County

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8613251.stm
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15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
If you read more often, you might work out how to punctuate a sentence correctly.

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15 Jul 2016, 10:12 AM
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15 Jul 2016, 09:05 AM
Stein67
15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
If you read more often, you might work out how to punctuate a sentence correctly.

Burn :lol:
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15 Jul 2016, 10:12 AM
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Stein67
15 Jul 2016, 08:25 AM
Just finished reading Luis Suarez's autobiography. His thoughts on Brendan were interesting. Suarez felt he was a breath of fresh air when he joined the club and his methods and knowledge were superb. However, the reign started badly and the feel good factor was lost immediately- he lost 3-0 in his first PL match and failed to win the next four. Players struggled to adapt to his short passing philosophy but when they got to grips with it they began to play attractive effective football. I think we are in for a difficult few weeks and it may cost us CL football again but if we are patient it will work out in the longer term.
You sat up all night reading a biography to work that out?

Well done Sherlock.
If you read more often, you might work out how to punctuate a sentence correctly.

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His biggest mistake so far is not getting Mulgrew in for the qualifiers.
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15 Jul 2016, 11:01 AM
His biggest mistake so far is not getting Mulgrew in for the qualifiers.
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His biggest mistake so far is not getting Mulgrew in for the qualifiers.
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It's a worrying fact. We had a fairly settled defence with Mulgrew in it.
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14 Jul 2016, 02:31 PM
Rodgers post match interview did have a bit of the Ronny about it. Mind you, Strachan used to do the same no matter how bad the team were.

MON never publicly attacked the team but at least you could see he was absolutely raging when they let him down. I really hope Rodgers tore them in pieces. If he didn't they'll begin to think that level of performance is acceptable.
Name a manager who publicly calls out his players and almost certainly you'll name a failure of a manager.
Neil Lennon after Ross County

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8613251.stm
That's a setup.


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tinytim81
14 Jul 2016, 02:31 PM
Rodgers post match interview did have a bit of the Ronny about it. Mind you, Strachan used to do the same no matter how bad the team were.

MON never publicly attacked the team but at least you could see he was absolutely raging when they let him down. I really hope Rodgers tore them in pieces. If he didn't they'll begin to think that level of performance is acceptable.
Name a manager who publicly calls out his players and almost certainly you'll name a failure of a manager.
Neil Lennon after Ross County

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/8613251.stm
Lennon was pleading to be given the job full time, Rodgers would have been comitting suicide to call out his players that early.

I would have assumed it would have been a different case for Rodgers behind closed doors. If he fails at Celtic his reputation will never recover.
Edited by gary(not og), 15 Jul 2016, 11:17 AM.
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Mulgrew is not the answer and never was.
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