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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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14 Jul 2016, 09:24 AM
Gothamcelt
14 Jul 2016, 09:02 AM
Chris Sutton's view on the result.
Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines.

Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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Pretty much on the money.
His best point was about how to play a packed defence. I know in his time we had him and Henrik attacking balls from Lubo and Thommo etc, but same rules should apply. If they're going to sit that deep, fire long diagonals into the penalty spot / 6 yard line. It won't be pretty but will get the job done. Pissing about with short passes 30 yeards out looking for a space to open up that doesn't exist is hard enough with great players.Impossible with the standard we have.
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BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
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14 Jul 2016, 10:16 AM
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14 Jul 2016, 09:52 AM
Gothamcelt
14 Jul 2016, 09:02 AM
Chris Sutton's view on the result.
Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines.

Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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That's it Chris

intae the manager from the off

no like ye big man
I would much rather an ex player was honest than just a mouthpiece trying to keep his job. Tom Boyd could learn a thing or two.
'It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. '

Hardly intae the manager when saying that.
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old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
Very insightful, thanks for posting.
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14 Jul 2016, 09:52 AM
Gothamcelt
14 Jul 2016, 09:02 AM
Chris Sutton's view on the result.
Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines.

Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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That's it Chris

intae the manager from the off

no like ye big man
He's not wrong though.
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old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
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At the very least the players should have been out to show the
Manager they had what it takes. As we all know they are a spineless
shower of chancers, with the obvious exceptions.
Rodgers must by now know this. No matter how he shuffles the pack, he'll
end up with the same hand
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14 Jul 2016, 10:38 AM
old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
Very insightful, thanks for posting.
I might also add that one of the most powerful tools in a manager's box is the old 'I'm not angry - just disappointed' nugget.

That, and 'You've let me down, you've let us down, and you've let yourself down'...

And then you fix the problem, or at least make a plan for fixing it.

Action will show the staff that you mean business, otherwise words are as wind.

If you show people that you value them, that you expect the very best from them, AND you help and support them to deliver that potential, then you tend to raise performance levels.

They also have to know they can't get away with any jiggery-pokery, of course. Take no shampoo.

It's not rocket surgery or brain science, but it is simple and effective.

And I think BR knows at least that much, and probably a helluva lot more.

Yes, the result was a complete eff up.

How the team (and I include BR in that) respond to the eff up will tell us a lot more about them than the eff up itself.

COYBIG
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14 Jul 2016, 10:44 AM
old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
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I cannot dance as well as that!
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old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:56 AM
Bagheera
14 Jul 2016, 10:38 AM
old greennose
14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
Very insightful, thanks for posting.
I might also add that one of the most powerful tools in a manager's box is the old 'I'm not angry - just disappointed' nugget.

That, and 'You've let me down, you've let us down, and you've let yourself down'...

And then you fix the problem, or at least make a plan for fixing it.

Action will show the staff that you mean business, otherwise words are as wind.

If you show people that you value them, that you expect the very best from them, AND you help and support them to deliver that potential, then you tend to raise performance levels.

They also have to know they can't get away with any jiggery-pokery, of course. Take no shampoo.

It's not rocket surgery or brain science, but it is simple and effective.

And I think BR knows at least that much, and probably a helluva lot more.

Yes, the result was a complete eff up.

How the team (and I include BR in that) respond to the eff up will tell us a lot more about them than the eff up itself.

COYBIG
eff off.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:16 AM
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14 Jul 2016, 09:52 AM
Gothamcelt
14 Jul 2016, 09:02 AM
Chris Sutton's view on the result.
Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines.

Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

Spoiler: click to toggle
That's it Chris

intae the manager from the off

no like ye big man
I would much rather an ex player was honest than just a mouthpiece trying to keep his job. Tom Boyd could learn a thing or two.
:lol:

Tom Boyd doesn't get asked as he tells it like it is, not what his ghost writer wants him to say. Also did Boyd ever get himself deliberatley sent off at Ibrox because he didn't fancy it?
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You'd think that we'd have learned from Deila's first season that these qualifiers are not opportunities to introduce a new system or showcase your philosophy - they're about getting the job done. If Deila had stuck with Lenny's diamond for those first few games we might well have scraped through. If BR had played 442 or 352 we might well have won that game - then again the players were absolute shampooe as well
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mo_bhoy
14 Jul 2016, 10:55 AM
At the very least the players should have been out to show the
Manager they had what it takes. As we all know they are a spineless
shower of chancers, with the obvious exceptions.
Rodgers must by now know this. No matter how he shuffles the pack, he'll
end up with the same hand
Thats what i can't quite get my head round about all this, they should have been busting a gut to win that game. Instead the majority showed they could not give a eff.

Its baffling.
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14 Jul 2016, 09:52 AM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepBrendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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I would much rather an ex player was honest than just a mouthpiece trying to keep his job. Tom Boyd could learn a thing or two.
:lol:

Tom Boyd doesn't get asked as he tells it like it is, not what his ghost writer wants him to say. Also did Boyd ever get himself deliberatley sent off at Ibrox because he didn't fancy it?
Sutton pretty much said the exact same on TV after the game.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deepBrendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton

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:lol:

Tom Boyd doesn't get asked as he tells it like it is, not what his ghost writer wants him to say. Also did Boyd ever get himself deliberatley sent off at Ibrox because he didn't fancy it?
Sutton pretty much said the exact same on TV after the game.
He's not daft, he knows what his column will have to say.

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Wee Bertie bumpin his gums in the Times today:

"He (Rodgers) needs to go and see the directors about getting better players in."

"Brendan gave quite a few players an opportunity and, after that performance and result, there will be a few of them looking over their shoulders and wondering whether they still have a future at the club."

"The one positive thing is that now he knows the quality - or lack of it - at his disposal and it's better that he found that out now than after the transfer window has closed."


We shall see.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:18 AM
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Too many people take everything published online & in the MSM at face value.I don't care what BR said in his post match interview.He'll have to rely on most of these failures next week so castigating them in public maybe not a good idea.As usual,most of our transfer dealings will be done towards the end of the window.It's just how it works.
I'm more interested in what BR does in private.He knows what the problems are.Give him a we bit of time to find the solutions.I don't expect everything to be fixed in one window.I'd hope to see a big improvement by the end of next summers window,though.3windows should give us the chance of bringing in 6-7 better quality players & also allow us to offload guys who shouldn't be here.
If he isn't making real progress by then,then questions should quite rightly be asked wrt his capabilities.
Trouble is, we've got no chance of seeing 6-7 better quality players arriving at the club if we don't qualify for the CL, which is exactly what's going to happen if you rely on the useless bastards we have and don't buy until late in the window.
I agree it's a catch 22 situation,mate.Problem is,any player worth his salt,unless approached by one of the really big clubs,is gonna sit out the window & see what offers come up.That doesn't suit us I know.I'd also bet,and we've heard it before,that there are players who will sign,but only if we qualify.They are not interested in helping us qualify!.
Same with guys we'd like to leave,for whatever reason.If they're on good wages they'll take the whole window to see what comes in.If nothing does then they'll give it the old "fight for my jersey" line,sit back & continue taking the money.
Not a satisfactory position but unfortunately that's how it is.Add in the fact that clubs like Bournmouth,Burnley etc are now bigger draws than us due to TV money & we're pissing against the wind.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
Cool story Bro :thumbsup:
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14 Jul 2016, 11:05 AM
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I might also add that one of the most powerful tools in a manager's box is the old 'I'm not angry - just disappointed' nugget.

That, and 'You've let me down, you've let us down, and you've let yourself down'...

And then you fix the problem, or at least make a plan for fixing it.

Action will show the staff that you mean business, otherwise words are as wind.

If you show people that you value them, that you expect the very best from them, AND you help and support them to deliver that potential, then you tend to raise performance levels.

They also have to know they can't get away with any jiggery-pokery, of course. Take no shampoo.

It's not rocket surgery or brain science, but it is simple and effective.

And I think BR knows at least that much, and probably a helluva lot more.

Yes, the result was a complete eff up.

How the team (and I include BR in that) respond to the eff up will tell us a lot more about them than the eff up itself.

COYBIG
eff off.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:56 AM
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14 Jul 2016, 10:29 AM
BR defended the team (up to a point) in public.

If he laid into them (verbally, that is), he did so in private.

That's what managers do.

In my last job, my staff knew that my door was always open - they could see so when they walked into the office. The only time my door was closed was when I was either needed quiet to make a phone call or was conducting staff feedback.

My staff knew they had my support and my confidence. They knew if they effed up, it wasn't the end of the world. They also knew that, if they stepped out of line, I would tear them a new one - in private.

I never needed to use the hairdryer, thankfully. I found out from my office manager that the staff (and some of the customers) were absolutely terrified of me, though I have no idea why.

I never lost my temper, hit anyone, or gave any reason I can think of to cause them to fear me.

But I let them continue.

Worked like a charm!
Very insightful, thanks for posting.
I might also add that one of the most powerful tools in a manager's box is the old 'I'm not angry - just disappointed' nugget.

That, and 'You've let me down, you've let us down, and you've let yourself down'...

And then you fix the problem, or at least make a plan for fixing it.

Action will show the staff that you mean business, otherwise words are as wind.

If you show people that you value them, that you expect the very best from them, AND you help and support them to deliver that potential, then you tend to raise performance levels.

They also have to know they can't get away with any jiggery-pokery, of course. Take no shampoo.

It's not rocket surgery or brain science, but it is simple and effective.

And I think BR knows at least that much, and probably a helluva lot more.

Yes, the result was a complete eff up.

How the team (and I include BR in that) respond to the eff up will tell us a lot more about them than the eff up itself.

COYBIG
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