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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,370 Views)
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Willie Wonka
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14 Jul 2016, 01:44 AM
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the hysteria surrounding BR arrival at Celtic park is only matched by the hysteria surrounding his fist defeat I hope he punched a few of them.
Hysteria? Ffs it was a black cab xi we were playing.
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14 Jul 2016, 08:30 AM
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Still trying to get my head around BR bumming up Allan and Ajer for the last few weeks only to drop them like a hoors drawers at the first time of asking.
The disappearance of Roberts stinks.
Roberts absence was a strange one, maybe man city decided they didn't want their 12 million thoroughbred running on the fibresand If Man City are allowed to dictate what matches we can play Roberts in, including crucial CL qualifiers, he should be sent back immediately. I'd be amazed if this was the reason Roberts didn't play.
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14 Jul 2016, 08:37 AM
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the difference between a good manager and a bad one is not making the same mistakes over and over so we will see next week what he has learned . if there is not at least 4 changes then we are in trouble
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aldo
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14 Jul 2016, 08:50 AM
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And that's the way we like it...
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Still trying to get my head around BR bumming up Allan and Ajer for the last few weeks only to drop them like a hoors drawers at the first time of asking.
The disappearance of Roberts stinks.
Roberts absence was a strange one, maybe man city decided they didn't want their 12 million thoroughbred running on the fibresand
If Man City are allowed to dictate what matches we can play Roberts in, including crucial CL qualifiers, he should be sent back immediately. I'd be amazed if this was the reason Roberts didn't play. They didn't really. Yer Man's tossed an off-the-cuff remark into the anguished, tortured world of the Celtic Internets as it desperately craves the reason why a team of cowards, shirkers, want-a-ways and the just not good enough, under a new manager in his first competitive game, lost a football match in demanding conditions to opponents who, although part time and from a minor league, were playing the most prestigious fixture in their history before a worldwide audience.
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14 Jul 2016, 08:58 AM
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the hysteria surrounding BR arrival at Celtic park is only matched by the hysteria surrounding his fist defeat
I hope he punched a few of them. Hysteria? Ffs it was a black cab xi we were playing. Now, if we don't win the next game comfortably you will have a point
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14 Jul 2016, 09:02 AM
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines.
Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
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14 Jul 2016, 09:09 AM
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the hysteria surrounding BR arrival at Celtic park is only matched by the hysteria surrounding his fist defeat
I hope he punched a few of them. Hysteria? Ffs it was a black cab xi we were playing. I seem to recall Liverpool suffered some embarrassing results in the early days under Rodgers
may take players time to tune into his philosophy
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14 Jul 2016, 09:15 AM
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I'm pretty sure Rodgers knows full well that it was an embarrassing result/performance, and I've do doubt that he's made sure that the players know it too. Him claiming that it wasn't an embarrassment was I think just him being respectful to the opposition.
Either that or he's batshampoo crazy anyway.
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southern bhoy
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14 Jul 2016, 09:24 AM
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines. Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99 Pretty much on the money.
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14 Jul 2016, 09:25 AM
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines. Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
Pretty much on the money. only thing missing was not including bitton/brown in this assessment
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14 Jul 2016, 09:27 AM
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines. Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
Pretty much on the money.
only thing missing was not including bitton/brown in this assessment And Forrest.
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14 Jul 2016, 09:47 AM
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I hope I'm right in thinking, that brendan has known for sometime, that he has to offload some of the gutless wonders involved in that shameful display. He knows that if he castigate the duffers in public, then potential buyers may drop their asking price. You wouldn't buy a motor from someone who told you he was a bit embarrassed to drive it. If he can point potential suitors down the road of mitigating factors etc. Like I said, I hope that's his reason for publicly protecting these chancers.
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14 Jul 2016, 09:52 AM
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines. Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99 That's it Chris
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14 Jul 2016, 09:53 AM
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You can observe a lot by just watching
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- 14 Jul 2016, 09:27 AM
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- 14 Jul 2016, 09:24 AM
Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
only thing missing was not including bitton/brown in this assessment
And Forrest. And... And... And...
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14 Jul 2016, 10:02 AM
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Too many people take everything published online & in the MSM at face value.I don't care what BR said in his post match interview.He'll have to rely on most of these failures next week so castigating them in public maybe not a good idea.As usual,most of our transfer dealings will be done towards the end of the window.It's just how it works. I'm more interested in what BR does in private.He knows what the problems are.Give him a we bit of time to find the solutions.I don't expect everything to be fixed in one window.I'd hope to see a big improvement by the end of next summers window,though.3windows should give us the chance of bringing in 6-7 better quality players & also allow us to offload guys who shouldn't be here. If he isn't making real progress by then,then questions should quite rightly be asked wrt his capabilities.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:10 AM
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- searcher52
- 14 Jul 2016, 09:53 AM
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- 14 Jul 2016, 09:27 AM
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- 14 Jul 2016, 09:25 AM
Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
And Forrest.
And... And... And... Think that there are a lot of players who were very very poor on Tuesday, but have proven that they can still do a job for us. There are 4 or 5 who should be shown the door immediately. Ambrose, Forrest, Johan, Bit, top that list, all be it for differing reasons.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:11 AM
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- 14 Jul 2016, 01:33 AM
I think last night was a masterclass move by Brendan, send out last years dross knowing they might efe it up as they did last season so many times but knowing he would win the tie at home next week, thus making it very easy for him to change any players he wishes and not having to explain too much to said players. I can only hope this is true
Rumour going round that we threw the game for Dafabet too
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Chris Sutton's view on the result. Can't argue with what he says, hope BR and the board are thinking along the same lines. Brendan Rodgers was wrong, Celtic defeat was embarrassing says Chris Sutton
Spoiler: click to toggle CHRIS believes that defeat to Lincoln Red Imps was a massive embarrassment despite what the Celtic manager says. BRENDAN Rodgers came out after the Lincoln Red Imps game and said it wasn’t embarrassing losing to the Gibraltar side. I’m sorry Brendan but it was a total embarrassment. Celtic is a global brand and this result has gone around the world. It has made headline news on the sport pages all over the planet. Embarrassing is exactly what I’d call it. There should be red faces all round but it’s important to have some sort of context. It is only half time and the real embarrassment would come if Celtic didn’t get through the tie. That would be a complete humiliation and catastrophic for the club. That really would be rock bottom. The worst ever. But if Celtic get through then will it matter? No. Will be be forgotten? Absolutely not. But at least they will have lived to fight another day. As it stands I would be amazed if the worst case scenario unfolded. As awful as Celtic were the other night, you still have to think they have enough to get past the part-timers. A few people have brought up the Artmedia Bratislava game and see some parallels between Rodgers and Gordon Strachan. We lost 5-0 out there in Gordon’s first game in charge, although I’d like to remind people it was still 0-0 when I went off with my cheekbone fractured in four places. The difference from that one to this is that this time the tie is still alive. We were dead after the first leg against Artmedia but this could still end up fairly comfortable if Celtic get their act together on Wednesday. I’ve seen some people talk about the Red Imps defeat like it was a freak or a one off. I don’t see it that way. I see it as a warning. It’s another wake up and smell the coffee moment for the club. They had one against Rangers last year but at some point they are going to have to learn the lesson. The current squad is not good enough to get Celtic to the group stages. How many times are we going to have to talk about Efe Ambrose? I’ve got nothing against the guy but he should be nowhere near the side. This question about is he better at right back or centre half? Efe’s best position is in the stand. Brendan must have spoken to people at the club and known how much damage he can do. A couple of half decent friendlies just lulls people in to a false sense of security because there’s always a disaster lurking with Ambrose. Honestly, there must be a better centre back option out there. In fact, I’m a better option than Efe right now. Rodgers will be judged on his signings but also on his selections. The goal was a shambles but there was a few things that had the alarm bells ringing the other night. We know Rodgers has inherited a mess. The recruitment under Deila was staggeringly poor. It’s a sub standard squad that needs serious investment to have half a chance. But it worried me the way the game unfolded in Gibraltar. The pitch was a factor. The surface was abysmal and it had a huge effect on the game. But Celtic should have had the game management to deal with it. That’s what got me. When we went to places like Dunfermline’s old bumpy astro turf, we had players in the side who would say, sod this, let’s go direct and get the job done. More often than not we did. That’s winning football - not fantasy football. I was critical of Ronny Deila about this and I hope Rodgers will be more pragmatic. You have to play the conditions. In Moussa Dembele that have a beast of a guy up front and a lethal striker in Leigh Griffiths alongside him. We could all see from the start Lincoln were going to make space tight and pack the defence. There’s nothing wrong with using the diagonal ball. It should have made sense to get players out wide and get crosses in to the box. When they did those things late on the chances started to come. I’m not convinced about Griffiths out right. He’s a poacher and his best work is in between the posts. I can’t understand what is so wrong about playing an old-fashioned 4-4-2 with wide men and a front partnership. Dembele and Griffiths could really complement each other. Listen, it shouldn’t matter as Celtic should get though after the home leg but Tuesday night’s shocker was a shot across the bows for the board. It was a sore one for Rodgers in his first game in charge but they have got a top manager in place. He will improve players but he can’t improve them by 80 percent. At some point you simply need better players. The centre half and right back positions are a matter of urgency. There are still too square pegs in round holes. There’s a huge amount of work to be done but in the meantime, please no more Efe. Read more at http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/brendan-rodgers-wrong-celtic-defeat-8414959#bVCtypwRkdabyPvT.99
That's it Chris intae the manager from the off no like ye big man I would much rather an ex player was honest than just a mouthpiece trying to keep his job. Tom Boyd could learn a thing or two.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:18 AM
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Too many people take everything published online & in the MSM at face value.I don't care what BR said in his post match interview.He'll have to rely on most of these failures next week so castigating them in public maybe not a good idea.As usual,most of our transfer dealings will be done towards the end of the window.It's just how it works. I'm more interested in what BR does in private.He knows what the problems are.Give him a we bit of time to find the solutions.I don't expect everything to be fixed in one window.I'd hope to see a big improvement by the end of next summers window,though.3windows should give us the chance of bringing in 6-7 better quality players & also allow us to offload guys who shouldn't be here. If he isn't making real progress by then,then questions should quite rightly be asked wrt his capabilities. Trouble is, we've got no chance of seeing 6-7 better quality players arriving at the club if we don't qualify for the CL, which is exactly what's going to happen if you rely on the useless bastards we have and don't buy until late in the window.
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14 Jul 2016, 10:21 AM
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Much posting, such opinion, very controversial. wow.
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We'll pump them in the home leg, qualify for the CL group stages and win the title. This'll all be forgotten about.
I'm bookmarking this post for next May.
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