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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,381 Views)
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BR very upbeat, praising the team, talking about the difficult decisions, their formation and who we will win the return leg.
If it had been Real Madrid or Barcelona that's the type of thing I would have expected to hear, something to keep the morale up. never expected to hear it after a game against a semi professional mob from Gibraltar.
Just hope he hasn't under estimated the job he has or listened to bullshampoo from the board about money and how the fans love them and everything will be alright.
Also if his plan is to play Griffiths coming in from the right, is that the reason Roberts does not get a game?

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think the assumption is based on he brought on James feckin Forrest before Roberts

that one needs a bit of an explanation
Someone mentioned last night that Roberts had been carrying an injury

It that was the case would it have been prudent to put him on, on that pitch?

I will NOT believe that Rodgers rates Forrest more than Roberts ffs
So after hammering everyone for assuming anything you are now assuming hes carrying an injury? Based on what?

Surely if he was carrying an injury and Rodgers had no intention of playing him on that surface he wouldn't even be on the bench?
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Someone mentioned last night that Roberts had been carrying an injury

It that was the case would it have been prudent to put him on, on that pitch?

I will NOT believe that Rodgers rates Forrest more than Roberts ffs
So after hammering everyone for assuming anything you are now assuming hes carrying an injury? Based on what?

Surely if he was carrying an injury and Rodgers had no intention of playing him on that surface he wouldn't even be on the bench?
I said someone mentioned it

Didn't say it was accurate
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Early days yet but rodgers failed miserably last night. I also adopt the principle that if the whole team stinks then the manager gets the blame. OK it's day one but rodgers gets the blame.
Edited by steviefrombelfast, 13 Jul 2016, 09:14 AM.
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In the cold light of day it doesn't look any better for Rodgers.

I assume they trained on the pitch the night before and watched the opponents match v Midjytlland last season.

I still don't get why a supposedly experienced manager took last night's tactical approach with a known failing bunch of players with such limited technical discipline. This bunch would struggle to zip it around Wembley against a set of cones, never mind what they played on last night.

It was time for needs must. Genuine width from a good crosser instinctively playing on the same side of the pitch as his strongest foot. Strong arming an amateur team with two strikers (for once), one physical and the other to play off. Balls into the box, players attacking both posts. Emphasise set piece delivery, don't put a limp Ryan Christie on them to carelessly miss his target every single time. Long passes from our best passer of the ball. Sadly, I'm not even sure who that is right now.

He'll have been told at least once by someone at the club that he cannot afford to play Ambrose against a team of any level in important games. Even if he didn't, having watched all of our games from last season, he should have known it.
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13 Jul 2016, 09:14 AM
Early days yet but rodgers failed miserably last night. I also adopt the principle that if the whole team stinks then the manager gets the blame. OK it's day one but rodgers gets the blame.
This is a massive problem at the club just now - the players, I think, couldn't give two effs about results like this...they're the champions of Scotland, isn't that enough? :nono:

Scott Brown and his pals seems to have a weird monopoly over the squad and both RD and BR, if truly serious about moving the team forward, should have punted him, Commons and Mulgrew in the same way that Stokes has been. BR needs to take action, otherwise he'll suffer the same fate as RD and we'll suffer with him.

There's a complete lack of professionalism. There is plenty of fear in that squad when it comes to meaty tackles and getting stuck in.

But there is absolutely no fear of losing on the pitch - the players seem to think it's fine, nothing bad will happen anyway right? So we get a bad result, no one will remember in a few weeks. FFS!

Utter, utter pish.

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steviefrombelfast
13 Jul 2016, 09:14 AM
Early days yet but rodgers failed miserably last night. I also adopt the principle that if the whole team stinks then the manager gets the blame. OK it's day one but rodgers gets the blame.
He made some very bad mistakes.
We are all looking at it in hindsight but he's the man getting paid millions of pounds to figure things out before the match,or if it's not going well to change things during the match.
Playing efe anywhere and playing griff wide right are two glaring errors that a lot of us wouldn't have made.
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13 Jul 2016, 08:57 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 08:52 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM

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think the assumption is based on he brought on James feckin Forrest before Roberts

that one needs a bit of an explanation
Someone mentioned last night that Roberts had been carrying an injury

It that was the case would it have been prudent to put him on, on that pitch?

I will NOT believe that Rodgers rates Forrest more than Roberts ffs
If he was carrying an injury why was he on the bench?
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Completely baffled by the Griffiths thing as well. Why would any new manager, go into any club, where the striker scored 40 goals the year before and think the first thing he needs to do to that squad is move said striker!!??
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13 Jul 2016, 09:26 AM
Completely baffled by the Griffiths thing as well. Why would any new manager, go into any club, where the striker scored 40 goals the year before and think the first thing he needs to do to that squad is move said striker!!??
Its like when Arsenal signed Nicholas who had just scored 50 goals and their manager said they didn't know his best position!

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13 Jul 2016, 08:52 AM

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Someone mentioned last night that Roberts had been carrying an injury

It that was the case would it have been prudent to put him on, on that pitch?

I will NOT believe that Rodgers rates Forrest more than Roberts ffs
If he was carrying an injury why was he on the bench?
Maybe he's approaching full fitness and might have got a run out for 5/10 mins on the assumption we were 20v0 up :lol:

I don't know but IF he wasn't 100% I wouldn't have thrown him on to win a game and perhaps (no laughing) he tried Forrest who by all accounts has been no bad pre-season
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13 Jul 2016, 12:39 AM
Worried that Brendan watched all of our games from last season and didn't conclude our two most productive players were Griffiths and Roberts. Why was our 40 goal striker pushed away from goal and Christie then Forrest preferred to Paddy? Why was the axis of Bitton and Brown, that laboured so badly at the business end of the season, employed instead of the quick passing and movement offered by the youth of McGregor, Armstrong, possibly Allen or even Henderson. Why Efe...just why?.

I suppose Brendan thought that any permutation of his squad and the senior players he settled on picking would be professional and experienced enough to see off such meagre opposition.

WAKEY! WAKEY!

Serious surgery is required. I never expect a manager to slate the players publicly as this is counterproductive, so his post match comments don't surprise me. It's Rodgers' ACTIONS in the coming weeks that we should watch. Who is shuffled towards the exit door. What transfer targets are realised and in what positions. Most immediately, who is trusted to turn this embarrassment around.

Was the team selection a monumental bluff taken to waken the board from its inertia in the transfer market? Most probably not but if the upshot of this debacle is purposeful movement from the manager and the board, the pain may be worth it.

zx 2. agree . I soooo want Brendan to work out and make is great/good again but last nights performance plus the decisions you mentioned are mental. Efe playing, griff right wing, Brown is done and Bitton is total bottler. he needs to realise this and realise it now. We need another 5/6 moved on from that line up last night and him to mark his team. I just hope that joke board help him and back him. 50k season tickets so the ride will be good if they go against him and do not clear out & do it quick.
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A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
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13 Jul 2016, 09:20 AM
There's a complete lack of professionalism. There is plenty of fear in that squad when it comes to meaty tackles and getting stuck in.
Agreed. Against RIFC in the cup semi-final, whenever we decided to move through the gears, we looked like the far superior team. Unfortunately, most of these players just weren't up for it against highly-motivated opponents.

The underlying lack of professionalism is shocking for a club of Celtic's size. It's going to take more than a change of manager to get that mess sorted out.
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13 Jul 2016, 09:38 AM
A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
They could easily have scored 2 more.
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A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
They could easily have scored 2 more.
5 v 3 to us I'd have taken :lol:
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13 Jul 2016, 09:46 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 09:42 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 09:38 AM
A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
They could easily have scored 2 more.
5 v 3 to us I'd have taken :lol:
Bit pointless isn't it, as shocking as the result was, we should beat them at home, whether we go through is a different matter.

Can we sign anyone for the return leg??
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13 Jul 2016, 09:38 AM
A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
They could easily have scored 2 more.
Agree, in the 10 minutes after the goal we were all over the place and could have conceded again, but we still need a bit of calm amidst all of the hysteria. Nothing will diminish the embarrassment of this result but come next week we will be through, Brendon will have learned a massive amount about individuals when the going gets tough , even at this basic level, and we will have a chance to invest before the next round. Last night was shocking and and embarrassing, but the predictors off long term doom are jumping the gun a tad.
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13 Jul 2016, 09:38 AM
A moment of calm, should still have won the game by 5 or 6 goals, a shampooy pitch, awkward opposition and their first competitive game. As I said last night Rodgers gets a taste of what's like when you get a bad result, I think he underestimated the opponents who did nothing more than work tirelessly, and overestimated Scott Brown's ability to play football or lead a team, Efe Ambrose's ability to play football and that's what cost him, if we don't win the replay by plenty ill be concerned than !
Appreciate the do not press the "defcon red button" westender but that was pure gash last night on sooo many levels. As I've said I want the manager to work out but there can be no excuses for BR - his decisions were baffling including the one about Efe you mention. The manager lets us down badly last night along with 8/9 players most of them now need to be shown the door.

Do think we will win the lreturn and go through but the autopsy from last night will go on until we get through and he gets rid of the imposters who play for our beloved Celtic. Easily the worst team for me since Macari. And I used to watch Mowbrays! That resuls in the cold light of day is indeed our worst result in living memory. Gibraltar only in UEFA 2 years and a team of part timers who 5/6 clocked off in the afternoon.

Again manager hopefully wil come good with board backing (gulp - if that happens) but that was as bad a result and even worse performance Ive ever seen from a Celtic team..

They deserve there dinner last night and this morning!
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5 v 3 to us I'd have taken :lol:
Bit pointless isn't it, as shocking as the result was, we should beat them at home, whether we go through is a different matter.

Can we sign anyone for the return leg??
Don't think so

Did we not pass a deadline?
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