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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,382 Views)
lenobhoy
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13 Jul 2016, 07:47 AM
Needs to show some balls.

Get rid of Ambrose, Bitton,Brown, Johansen, Forrest.

Start to play players in their right positions or drop them.
Yep, totally agree. He needs to be a hard bastard now and make difficult decisions as he could lose the confidence of the fans if he starts with those that failed us last season. No more Mr nice guy and a lot more pragmatism in winning matches.
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Paul at CQN is a tool. Why does he constantly hang out the back of Commons. The guy can't run, is unfit and can't listen to instructions. He had one good season, he's not the answer.
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13 Jul 2016, 08:21 AM
I'm hoping the lack of activity has been down to Rodgers being out of the country for 3 weeks and now they are back he'll properly put the pressure on Lawwell and Desmond.

The squad badly needs investment, but we should have been skooshing that last night. Rodgers is supposed to be able to adapt to conditions, but why were we playing tippy tappy pish on a pitch that resembled a school playground? I remember way back to MON at Dunfermline, we went there for the first time and the ball barely touched the deck and we scored 4 goals. We should have been crossing the ball into Dembele constantly, but he barely saw it.

He must know by now the guys he needs rid of and we need at least 3 in by the end of the month, with another couple in time (hopefully) for the final qualifier. Hopefully now with the travelling done for at least a fortnight we will see that movement.
Im starting to think that rodgers has overestimated the quality of the squad, he claims he watched all our games last season so he really should at least have been addressing the centre back position before the qualifiers start.

I think someone is playing for time over transfers believing we will schoosh the 1st qualifier.

Edited by MILLIGANS ISLAND, 13 Jul 2016, 08:39 AM.
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I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
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Mackin
13 Jul 2016, 08:21 AM
I'm hoping the lack of activity has been down to Rodgers being out of the country for 3 weeks and now they are back he'll properly put the pressure on Lawwell and Desmond.

The squad badly needs investment, but we should have been skooshing that last night. Rodgers is supposed to be able to adapt to conditions, but why were we playing tippy tappy pish on a pitch that resembled a school playground? I remember way back to MON at Dunfermline, we went there for the first time and the ball barely touched the deck and we scored 4 goals. We should have been crossing the ball into Dembele constantly, but he barely saw it.

He must know by now the guys he needs rid of and we need at least 3 in by the end of the month, with another couple in time (hopefully) for the final qualifier. Hopefully now with the travelling done for at least a fortnight we will see that movement.
I genuinely worry that Rodgers will have a caveat on his (supposedly) large transfer budget of "you'll get it if you get Champions League football". It was reportedly £15m, right? And we've signed Dembele for £500k or thereabouts. Even if the budget is about £10m, we should be able to bring in players who aren't shampooe and would improve that squad.

If we don't qualify - and from last nights performance, Imps are going to have 11 men on the goal line in a fortnight - then I fear we'll be left with utter dross this season and the odd purchase from the far reaches of League One.
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12 Jul 2016, 10:21 PM
I realise Brendan thinks he has to play it a certain way in the media but he got the tone all wrong tonight. He needs to know that is our worst defeat ever.
The more I think about it the more disappointed in him I get



to actually come out and say that there is no red faces in the dressing room is embarrassing


he actually had a fantastic opportunity to lay down a marker last night

come out and apologies to the supporters for the performance, acknowledge what the rest of the world know that it is a very embarrassing result for the club.

Say, that level of performance is unacceptable and if the players want to play a part in his plans they need to up their game pronto.




Instead he came across as weak with the same old excuses.

Not a good start
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13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
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13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM
Stantheman19
13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
By not picking him, by putting FORREST on, instead of him?

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"We know the type of quality of player to get in and help the team and squad and that’s something we will work on".

Eerily synonymous with pushing buttons , and the mention of helping the squad gives me :twitch:
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13 Jul 2016, 08:50 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM
Stantheman19
13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
By not picking him, by putting FORREST on, instead of him?

So an assumption then
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auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM
Stantheman19
13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
think the assumption is based on he brought on James feckin Forrest before Roberts

that one needs a bit of an explanation
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13 Jul 2016, 08:51 AM
greenjedi
13 Jul 2016, 08:50 AM
auldbhoy1975
13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM

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By not picking him, by putting FORREST on, instead of him?

So an assumption then
It seems a reasonable assumption to make given the evidence
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Unfortunately his comments post match last night are entirely predictable and exactly the reason he got ridiculed at Liverpool. If that result last night wasn't embarrassing then what result is?
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13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM
Stantheman19
13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
Whilst i'll grant you its an assumption on my part its certainly not based on eff all.

Its based on the fact that building up to last nights game in pre season he wasn't selected. When picking last nights team you would surely assume Rodgers would put out what he thought to be his best team?

Not only did he not select Roberts but he put on Forrest Before him when we needed something!!
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Honeymoon period well and truly over.
Some hard but right choices to make for BR.
I'm sure he would have ripped into them privately after the game.
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I think he was right to try a front 3 but obviously things didn't work out as hoped. Too reliant on full backs to get forward & create rather than have the midfield probe for openings and supply some quality service to anyone !!

For the return leg I'd opt for 3 at the back and put 2 wide men and 2 central strikers, we will again have by far the bulk of the possession, a lot more room and a much better surface to play on.
No need to simply hump long high hopeful (hopeless) punts from 60-70 yards into the area. Show some guile, passion and we will turn this lot over with goals to spare.

Midfield needs restructured badly, quite clear we are not getting the max from Brown - Johansen - Bitton when they have played together in recent months, time to move plan for the future.
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the biggest puzzle for me last night was the decision not to play Roberts. I have convinced myself it's because he was carrying an injury or BR knows he is quality and wanted to run the rule over some other players before the cull begins.

They may say I am a dreamer but I am not the only one

I would love to read glen driscolls report the performance last night, I am sure it would be short. Pure pi55
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13 Jul 2016, 08:52 AM
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13 Jul 2016, 08:47 AM
Stantheman19
13 Jul 2016, 08:40 AM
I can't believe that Rodgers is naive enough to think he can just come in and play 433. If thats his formation of choice thats fine but, sign players to suit and gradually introduce it!! Don't put square pegs in round circles just to play that specific formation.

If he thinks Griffiths isn't good enough to be his main striker, don't play him. Hes useless anywhere else. (why one of your first moves would be to move a 40 goals striker is also beyond me!)

Completely baffled by the whole Patrick Roberts thing as well. If he thinks Roberts isn't good enough to get in that team then I worry about him as a judge of a player!!
Keep hearing this about Roberts

Is there any evidence that Rodgers doesn't rate him??

Or is it an assumption based on feck all?
think the assumption is based on he brought on James feckin Forrest before Roberts

that one needs a bit of an explanation
Someone mentioned last night that Roberts had been carrying an injury

It that was the case would it have been prudent to put him on, on that pitch?

I will NOT believe that Rodgers rates Forrest more than Roberts ffs
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13 Jul 2016, 08:42 AM
Mackin
13 Jul 2016, 08:21 AM
I'm hoping the lack of activity has been down to Rodgers being out of the country for 3 weeks and now they are back he'll properly put the pressure on Lawwell and Desmond.

The squad badly needs investment, but we should have been skooshing that last night. Rodgers is supposed to be able to adapt to conditions, but why were we playing tippy tappy pish on a pitch that resembled a school playground? I remember way back to MON at Dunfermline, we went there for the first time and the ball barely touched the deck and we scored 4 goals. We should have been crossing the ball into Dembele constantly, but he barely saw it.

He must know by now the guys he needs rid of and we need at least 3 in by the end of the month, with another couple in time (hopefully) for the final qualifier. Hopefully now with the travelling done for at least a fortnight we will see that movement.
I genuinely worry that Rodgers will have a caveat on his (supposedly) large transfer budget of "you'll get it if you get Champions League football". It was reportedly £15m, right? And we've signed Dembele for £500k or thereabouts. Even if the budget is about £10m, we should be able to bring in players who aren't shampooe and would improve that squad.

If we don't qualify - and from last nights performance, Imps are going to have 11 men on the goal line in a fortnight - then I fear we'll be left with utter dross this season and the odd purchase from the far reaches of League One.
Given the uplift in season tickets, that money should be there regardless of the CL. We all know the squad isnt good enough to make it, we've seen that the last 2 years. Rodgers should have the leverage, as Desmonds man, to demand funds for players before at least the final qualifier.

I cant believe he's come in as yet another Yes man.
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If Roberts doesn't start playing soon I expect he'll look to terminate his loan deal.

Griffiths is guff out wide. It takes a certain keep of stubbornness to put a 40 goal striker out there. The other night against Maribor I don't think they linked up once.

Again we seem to have a manager determined to hammer square pegs into round holes.

The team needs a clear out. We might have to take a financial hit. Some of them will find out about the real world at their next club where they realise they're not actually that good.

Regardless, those players should not be getting beat by part timers. The manager is ultimately responsible, first game or not.

Already been a bit concerned about hearing of wee books being handed out and the psychobabble of 'one brain'. We had a manager who tried to fill his players' head with such mince and gave up half way through to let them get on with it. The last thing we need is someone trying to complicate things when he should be simplifying them.

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