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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,444 Views)
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25 May 2016, 02:59 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 09:39 AM
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- 25 May 2016, 07:49 AM
Sorry/sad  to quote mesel', but where is this from?
Neil Lennon was speaking at the William Hill Euro 2016 preview evening. Nobody been along yet to castigate him for talking about Rangers and 'coming back up' ?
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- 25 May 2016, 02:45 PM
We will make the CL next season. There's no way we are going all out with the manager if he isn't going to be backed. Get the right players in and we will make the CL. One of the things that pissed me off about the press the other day, was the way the painted it like we have been miles away from qualifying the last two years. Lets be honest about it, any manager that could competently set out a team would have got us to the Group stages. Even then, We were Johansen blocking a shot on Maribor's goal line and a couple of set pieces against Malmo away from qualifying.
All season with Ronny's team I never felt secure at 2-0, we always looked likely to make a bollox of it. If we lost a goal, the heads went down and we threw away the result. I hope I'm right in thinking BR will have us better organised and likely to make it 3-0. I Don't doubt it for a second that we will qualify and comfortably at that.
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25 May 2016, 03:00 PM
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All season with Ronny's team I never felt secure at 2-0, we always looked likely to make a bollox of it. If we lost a goal, the heads went down and we threw away the result. I hope I'm right in thinking BR will have us better organised and likely to make it 3-0.  I Don't doubt it for a second that we will qualify and comfortably at that. We are fair gonna look stupid if we don't
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25 May 2016, 03:04 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 02:36 PM
I'd be happy with a solid run in the Europa League this season (unless of course we spend 15 million or something), the problem is not with that competition but rather the post Last 16 era glory hunters who turn their nose up at it and then Parkhead ends up a half empty damp squib on match nights. That said, with a decent draw, 2 key signings in defence & midfield & maybe the more 'competitive' edge that these International Champions Cup matches may bring, we have every chance being ready for the challenges the early qualifiers bring. I'm confident I'd be quite upset if we dont make the CL this year but I wouldnt be calling for Rodgers' head as long as we dropped into the EL and had a good campaign there, I appreciate that we could really use that financial boost and going three years on the trot being beat out of the CLQs would be very poor but I do recognise that over two legs of football against decent opposition anything is possible. If we get the squad sorted and the right players in then it should be easily achievable.
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25 May 2016, 03:09 PM
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 I Don't doubt it for a second that we will qualify and comfortably at that.  We are fair gonna look stupid if we don't
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25 May 2016, 03:12 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 02:53 PM
Like any other manager he needs some breaks to get through the qualifiers, he has 7-10 weeks to get his message across to exisiting players and any new recruits. He needs to get them doing the basics well in that time, needs to be lucky with injuries, incomings and outgoings and also lucky with the draw.
We should have beat Malmo etc with out budget but they still had one big advantage of being well into their season when we played them. Malmo punched well above their weight by being familiar with each other, compact and well organised and having desire and leaders in the likes of Rosenberg.
We were more than some bad set piece defending away from qualifying for last seasons CL, we were a whole mindset away from it, he needs to look for players whose arse doesn`t collapse in adversity or have them trusting him so much in that short space of time that they`ll follow his instructions implicitly.
He`s got our unwavering support now, he needs that from every other effer at the clubt o take us through them first time at such short notice. The Malmo team we played was ripped apart and put back together again in the two transfer windows before we played them. Malmö away was something like our tenth competitive match of the season, towards the end of the second month. The advantage of being into your season is less when you are at that point. Qarabag's season started even after ours.
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25 May 2016, 03:13 PM
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Like any other manager he needs some breaks to get through the qualifiers, he has 7-10 weeks to get his message across to exisiting players and any new recruits. He needs to get them doing the basics well in that time, needs to be lucky with injuries, incomings and outgoings and also lucky with the draw.
We should have beat Malmo etc with out budget but they still had one big advantage of being well into their season when we played them. Malmo punched well above their weight by being familiar with each other, compact and well organised and having desire and leaders in the likes of Rosenberg.
We were more than some bad set piece defending away from qualifying for last seasons CL, we were a whole mindset away from it, he needs to look for players whose arse doesn`t collapse in adversity or have them trusting him so much in that short space of time that they`ll follow his instructions implicitly.
He`s got our unwavering support now, he needs that from every other effer at the clubt o take us through them first time at such short notice.
The Malmo team we played was ripped apart and put back together again in the two transfer windows before we played them. Malmö away was something like our tenth competitive match of the season, towards the end of the second month. The advantage of being into your season is less when you are at that point. Qarabag's season started even after ours. Qarabag were rotten anaw. Made hard work of them.
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25 May 2016, 03:16 PM
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Like any other manager he needs some breaks to get through the qualifiers, he has 7-10 weeks to get his message across to exisiting players and any new recruits. He needs to get them doing the basics well in that time, needs to be lucky with injuries, incomings and outgoings and also lucky with the draw.
We should have beat Malmo etc with out budget but they still had one big advantage of being well into their season when we played them. Malmo punched well above their weight by being familiar with each other, compact and well organised and having desire and leaders in the likes of Rosenberg.
We were more than some bad set piece defending away from qualifying for last seasons CL, we were a whole mindset away from it, he needs to look for players whose arse doesn`t collapse in adversity or have them trusting him so much in that short space of time that they`ll follow his instructions implicitly.
He`s got our unwavering support now, he needs that from every other effer at the clubt o take us through them first time at such short notice.
The Malmo team we played was ripped apart and put back together again in the two transfer windows before we played them. Malmö away was something like our tenth competitive match of the season, towards the end of the second month. The advantage of being into your season is less when you are at that point. Qarabag's season started even after ours.
Qarabag were rotten anaw. Made hard work of them.  Aye. But you had folk who hadn't even bothered checking saying it was tough tie as they were well into their season, based on the lazy assumption that these Johnny Foreigner types don't play to the same calendar as us.
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25 May 2016, 03:16 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 02:45 PM
We will make the CL next season. There's no way we are going all out with the manager if he isn't going to be backed. Get the right players in and we will make the CL. Does it really work like that though?
Willing something to happen because we've got a higher profile manager is not really a sure fire bet at all. Regardless of seeding and perceived poor quality of teams in ALL rounds, it is knock out football in early July and August when many leagues are in the middle of their season, whereas its pre-season to a large extent for us. It's also football that, regardless of your view, is inevitably against better opposition than we normally face from the second qualifier onwards.
Willing signings to happen because we might have a bit more money and clout is not really how it works. It's a Euro Championships year. The market will probably only loosen up after we've played our first qualifier.
In Deila's two years we were presented with eminently winnable scenarios in both, and managed to balls it up. Clearly, there is a bit of hope or faith that a more competent and experienced manager can work with a group of largely the same players and manage some tactical coherence to win against beatable teams.
But it's fair to assume that some of the players that cost us against Maribor and Malmo will still be playing in games against similar types of opposition. Brendan would do well to understand that the 'one of the biggest teams in the world' patter is unlikely to get him anything other than a smacked arse away in Croatia in early August if he's got Boyata and the like at centre half. That, at least, is my reality.
There are never any guarantees short of automatic qualification. Better teams than us have found that out.
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25 May 2016, 03:23 PM
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I think Brendan's priorities are to get a true holding midfielder and a half decent striker in as soon as possible. The true holding midfielder is rarely needed throughout the SPL campaign, but is absolutely essential if we are to make any progress in Europe.
Do we have anyone at the club who can learn the role and has the qualities and the discipline to play there?
One bad tackle and we could lose Griffiths for a while, he needs to unearth a gem after years of us signing duds for up front.
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Like any other manager he needs some breaks to get through the qualifiers, he has 7-10 weeks to get his message across to exisiting players and any new recruits. He needs to get them doing the basics well in that time, needs to be lucky with injuries, incomings and outgoings and also lucky with the draw.
We should have beat Malmo etc with out budget but they still had one big advantage of being well into their season when we played them. Malmo punched well above their weight by being familiar with each other, compact and well organised and having desire and leaders in the likes of Rosenberg.
We were more than some bad set piece defending away from qualifying for last seasons CL, we were a whole mindset away from it, he needs to look for players whose arse doesn`t collapse in adversity or have them trusting him so much in that short space of time that they`ll follow his instructions implicitly.
He`s got our unwavering support now, he needs that from every other effer at the clubt o take us through them first time at such short notice.
The Malmo team we played was ripped apart and put back together again in the two transfer windows before we played them. Malmö away was something like our tenth competitive match of the season, towards the end of the second month. The advantage of being into your season is less when you are at that point. Qarabag's season started even after ours. Some of those competitive games were not much better than friendlies and if Brendan gets a similar draw he`s still at the same disadvantage all new managers are of being less familiar with his team against a team who have been playing together for a while.
Just pointing out these things are never easy and we always find ways of making them harder than they should be. He might decide to to keep Charlie Mulgrew on for his experience after meeting with Broony and his senior players, that always helps make the qualifiers interesting!
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I'll be honest, when this was announced on Friday I wasnt overly excited. I thought Brendan was Deila-esque, single minded, gung-ho with no idea how to organise a defense. No idea where that came from really, as I dont think I've ever really watched any of his teams. I probably listened to too many numpties on here. Since Friday, I've watched everything, read everything I could. This is THE man for Celtic, he gets it, he gets us and he's going to get 10 in a row. I couldnt be more excited about the new season. Brendan Rodgers Fenian Army
So what has he did since Friday to convince you he can organise a defence? Just listening to him, and reading about him, he seems far more pragmatic than I initially thought. I still have reservations about the defense, his Liverpool team that finished second lost 50 goals, but I have no doubts he is the man to lead us forward.
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Like any other manager he needs some breaks to get through the qualifiers, he has 7-10 weeks to get his message across to exisiting players and any new recruits. He needs to get them doing the basics well in that time, needs to be lucky with injuries, incomings and outgoings and also lucky with the draw.
We should have beat Malmo etc with out budget but they still had one big advantage of being well into their season when we played them. Malmo punched well above their weight by being familiar with each other, compact and well organised and having desire and leaders in the likes of Rosenberg.
We were more than some bad set piece defending away from qualifying for last seasons CL, we were a whole mindset away from it, he needs to look for players whose arse doesn`t collapse in adversity or have them trusting him so much in that short space of time that they`ll follow his instructions implicitly.
He`s got our unwavering support now, he needs that from every other effer at the clubt o take us through them first time at such short notice.
The Malmo team we played was ripped apart and put back together again in the two transfer windows before we played them. Malmö away was something like our tenth competitive match of the season, towards the end of the second month. The advantage of being into your season is less when you are at that point. Qarabag's season started even after ours. The Swedish season is stopping for the Euros (not sure about other summer leagues), so that advantage will be far less this season anyway.
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Folk claiming that we'll be decent in Europe as we are, are kidding themselves on.
A new manager doesn't suddenly turn lightweight players into brick shampoohouses.
Anybody who's watched Seville against their country's clubs and against Liverpool should have realised where we are in relation to that level.
We are weak in a few areas, and until we have a solid defence which doesn't crumble under pressure, we'll not being making much impact.
I've no doubt that things will change for the better, but it won't be with the current squad as it stands.
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25 May 2016, 03:34 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 02:45 PM
We will make the CL next season. There's no way we are going all out with the manager if he isn't going to be backed. Get the right players in and we will make the CL. We had some cracking players in Lennon's first couple of seasons with Celtic but Eurooe was a disaster. Until the beginning of his third season. It's not entirely dependant on who we bring in. That's just the beginning. They need to gel with each other as well as the manager. I don't think Brendan will have enough time. Now, if we appointed him months ago like we should've, then it'd be a different story.
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25 May 2016, 03:49 PM
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The UCL is even more important in the next couple of years because it seems certain that UEFA will soon re-organize it to make it more difficult for clubs like us to qualify.
In fact, I wonder if BR had a look into that possibility before agreeing to the move.
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Folk claiming that we'll be decent in Europe as we are, are kidding themselves on.
A new manager doesn't suddenly turn lightweight players into brick shampoohouses.
Anybody who's watched Seville against their country's clubs and against Liverpool should have realised where we are in relation to that level.
We are weak in a few areas, and until we have a solid defence which doesn't crumble under pressure, we'll not being making much impact.
I've no doubt that things will change for the better, but it won't be with the current squad as it stands. not saying that we would be able to compete in the Groups, but there is no reason we shouldnt comfortably get past the unseeded teams on our way there.
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I'd be happy with a solid run in the Europa League this season (unless of course we spend 15 million or something), the problem is not with that competition but rather the post Last 16 era glory hunters who turn their nose up at it and then Parkhead ends up a half empty damp squib on match nights. That said, with a decent draw, 2 key signings in defence & midfield & maybe the more 'competitive' edge that these International Champions Cup matches may bring, we have every chance being ready for the challenges the early qualifiers bring. I'm confident
I'd be quite upset if we dont make the CL this year but I wouldnt be calling for Rodgers' head as long as we dropped into the EL and had a good campaign there, I appreciate that we could really use that financial boost and going three years on the trot being beat out of the CLQs would be very poor but I do recognise that over two legs of football against decent opposition anything is possible. If we get the squad sorted and the right players in then it should be easily achievable. I agree with this.
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25 May 2016, 04:13 PM
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chris davies to be added to the backroom staff of the fenian army anytime now apparently
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25 May 2016, 04:15 PM
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- 25 May 2016, 04:13 PM
chris davies to be added to the backroom staff of the fenian army anytime now apparently I wonder if this is a Ronny-esque appointment (or what he should have been) with a view to picking up from Rodgers a few years down the line.
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