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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
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Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,456 Views)
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Gothamcelt
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24 May 2016, 07:06 AM
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Good piece from The Scotsman.
Brendan Rodgers: My debt to Celtic legend Tommy Burns
STEPHEN HALLIDAY
Spoiler: click to toggle As a starry-eyed 11-year-old, Brendan Rodgers made the trip from County Antrim to County Donegal on a short pilgrimage to watch Celtic in action for the first time. The pre-season friendly in Ballybofey saw League of Ireland side Finn Harps outclassed by their Scottish visitors, the midfield strings pulled by a certain Tommy Burns in a facile 3-0 victory. Little did he know then, but Burns would prove to be a hugely significant influence and inspiration to the man who has become Celtic
manager. Their paths first formally crossed in 1998 at Reading where Rodgers, his playing career cut short at just 20 by injury, was a youth coach when Burns was in charge. Burns made a profound and lasting impression on Rodgers who has revealed his destiny as a potential future Celtic manager was even foreseen by the much-loved club icon just a year before his untimely death in 2008. “The last time I saw Tommy, bless him, I came up here to watch a game against Hearts in 2007,” recalled Rodgers. “I was working with the reserves with Chelsea at the time and was talking with Leicester City about maybe getting my first job in management with them. “I thought I needed somebody experienced to come in beside me. At the time, Milan Mandaric was the Leicester chairman and he was talking about a director of football. So I said: ‘Listen, if I am going to come in to Leicester I would love to bring a guy in with me, Tommy Burns’. “My idea was to get Tommy in to Leicester as a director of football, because he wasn’t really wanting to manage in his own right any more. He was working within the youth department at Celtic at the time. “So I came up to see him and we talked about if I got the job at Leicester he could come in as a director of football. He said one day he could come back to Celtic as a director of football and I could come back as a manager. That is how ironic it is. “At that point, what he was talking about was being a director of football at Celtic. I came up, met him in the hotel the night before, we had a great chat, I came to the game and we went back to his house to see his wife, Rosemary, afterwards. “It was something he was keen to do from a football perspective. I think his family and Rosemary had been down south for a few years and
wanted to be up here. But it was certainly something that made him think. “But the only thing that was making him want to do it was the possibility of him coming back to Celtic one day as the director of football with me as a manager. So this is a poignant day for me, really. “When I first started out in coaching, it was on a part-time basis at Reading. When I stopped playing I was working in the academy there. Obviously, I looked up to Tommy because I was a Celtic supporter and he had been a player here. “But when he came in at Reading, he sort of took me under his wing a bit. We were able to talk about football and very quickly I saw his passion for it. I knew he was a fantastic player and had known him from managing Celtic. “In all fairness to Tommy, his brain was that of a top player. When he was at Reading as a manager, he probably didn’t work with a level of player that matched his abilities. But what I saw at that early stage of my coaching career was two things. “One was the detail that he put into his coaching. He loved working with players, loved improving players, loved making them better. But also his human qualities impressed me. He was a wonderful man. “I used to watch him and see him about the place and even when he was under pressure there he never changed. He was a good man. He always had time for you and I never ever forgot that. “As a young coach I was looking for many influences and many inspirations. Tommy was a huge influence. He was there with Packie Bonner. Both of them were extremely helpful to me in the early stages of my coaching career. “I have just noticed the photos of him on the walls here. He will always be here. For me to follow in the footsteps of Jock Stein, Billy McNeill, Davie Hay and Tommy and these guys as manager is an incredible feeling of privilege for me. “I think Tommy would be very proud of me today. He was a Celtic man, he always just wanted what was best for Celtic – whether he was supporting, playing for or ultimately managing the club. He never lost that love for the club, even when he’d left to coach at other places like Newcastle and Reading. His passion and emotion for Celtic was always there.” Rodgers is savouring the latest challenge in his career, insisting he is revitalised after a break from football in the wake of his sacking by Liverpool last October. “It was hard on me,” he admitted. “But I have had a good break now. People might say that [this is a step down] but they don’t know this club. I have come into a huge club here. There is a brand of clubs that are renowned worldwide. “Liverpool is one of them and Celtic is one of them. It is a huge honour for me to come here. It is a different football level here but the challenge of getting to the Champions League and dominating the game in Scottish football with the challenge from Rangers and Aberdeen really excites me. I remember Tommy and Packie saying to me when I was at Reading that at Celtic, it is like no other club. You have to win every game. When you win it is great but when you lose it is a disaster and I never lost that meaning from Tommy and Packie. “There is not another club like it. You can go to Manchester United and draw as Liverpool manager and it can be a good result, depending on the situation. “You don’t get that here, you have got to win the games. Every single game is a pressure
situation and there are not many teams in the world have that.” Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/celtic/brendan-rodgers-my-debt-to-celtic-legend-tommy-burns-1-4136094#ixzz49YCQgubA Follow us: @TheScotsman on Twitter | TheScotsmanNewspaper on Facebook
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sevilliano
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24 May 2016, 07:24 AM
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- sevilliano
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- nowonder
- 23 May 2016, 09:26 PM
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Not really The fact is that dermot Plc brought us MoN strachan Lennon and Brendan as dermot stepped in and took control of the board - when he left the most critical decisions to lawwell we got awful managers and whilst the policy was always the same when Lawwell had his puppet managers he got to make decisions on squad and players he should have been nowhere near and which no proper manager would allow Those days are over now Ps is it true he didn't get the Sunderland job - can't understand why they didn't see how good he is - surely they didn't rate Bain higher than him ??? If so and I still can't believe that (I thought it was a joke) it would explain the face on him
Desmond has tried to get Keane once or twice,in the past he tried to get Joe Kinnear.His judgement in these things isn't his strength,that lies in being in charge of remuneration for key executives .He is responsible for the salary Lawwell gets because he thinks Lawwell does a good job for him and the board.He can also infulence what we pay a manager ,because he's decided to offer Rodgers a big one that reflects badly on Lawwell ? You think he didn't want a highly rated manager like him ,that he would prefer a diddy ? Don't get the logic unless it's just because it been decided Lawwell is the bad guy and any evidence,even todays where Rodgers said Lawwell persuaded him to join, has to be disregarded. ok here we go again
You were nowhere to be seen as Lawwell singlehandedly drove our revenues down, let our squad delevelop into a mess, brought in the jokes that are Cole ckr and numerous others with someone who will be looked on as a complete amateur of a manager - and someone who couldn't get by piss poor Scandinavian sides. He managed to clear a third of the stadium and cover it in banners.
Lawwell got us into the mess as CEO and DD has most definitely stepped in to ensure that Brendan Rodgers gets us out of it so DD was at fault for delegating too much power to the arrogant man but thank eff he's stepped in as Lawwell would never have got it if he didn't get it after Malmö and molde
Anyhow Brendan is here it's sunny as eff the Huns have been found out by a championship side and all is right with the world
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24 May 2016, 07:57 AM
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- sevilliano
- 24 May 2016, 07:24 AM
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Desmond has tried to get Keane once or twice,in the past he tried to get Joe Kinnear.His judgement in these things isn't his strength,that lies in being in charge of remuneration for key executives .He is responsible for the salary Lawwell gets because he thinks Lawwell does a good job for him and the board.He can also infulence what we pay a manager ,because he's decided to offer Rodgers a big one that reflects badly on Lawwell ? You think he didn't want a highly rated manager like him ,that he would prefer a diddy ? Don't get the logic unless it's just because it been decided Lawwell is the bad guy and any evidence,even todays where Rodgers said Lawwell persuaded him to join, has to be disregarded.
ok here we go again You were nowhere to be seen as Lawwell singlehandedly drove our revenues down, let our squad delevelop into a mess, brought in the jokes that are Cole ckr and numerous others with someone who will be looked on as a complete amateur of a manager - and someone who couldn't get by piss poor Scandinavian sides. He managed to clear a third of the stadium and cover it in banners. Lawwell got us into the mess as CEO and DD has most definitely stepped in to ensure that Brendan Rodgers gets us out of it so DD was at fault for delegating too much power to the arrogant man but thank eff he's stepped in as Lawwell would never have got it if he didn't get it after Malmö and molde Anyhow Brendan is here it's sunny as eff the Huns have been found out by a championship side and all is right with the world
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Stringer Bell
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24 May 2016, 08:18 AM
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First time in a long time (ever?) we've actually went out and shown a bit of ambition as champions.
For too long we've had this crap about not being able to compete drilled into us. We know we can't spend the same as English teams, but that doesn't mean any old crap will do.
The first step in getting to the CL is acting like a CL team. Looks like we're doing that.
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24 May 2016, 08:24 AM
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See the pant wetters are out.
BRFA
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In The Heat of Lisbon
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24 May 2016, 08:34 AM
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- 24 May 2016, 08:24 AM
See the pant wetters are out.
BRFA I suppose people had to find something to have a dig about, but BRFA was the best they could come up with?
When it starts ringing out, stand to stand back and forth it will be sensational.
Just like it was when it was PMFA.
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24 May 2016, 08:36 AM
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See the pant wetters are out.
BRFA
I suppose people had to find something to have a dig about, but BRFA was the best they could come up with? When it starts ringing out, stand to stand back and forth it will be sensational. Just like it was when it was PMFA. If last night was anything to go by. They'll be lone dissenting voices.
It was rapturous last night.
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24 May 2016, 08:41 AM
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- 23 May 2016, 09:49 PM
The bit about Tommy Burns...
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24 May 2016, 08:46 AM
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Why are folk getting upset about the world "fenian"? And the fact it will upset supporters of other clubs into the bargain too is a nice wee bonus.
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24 May 2016, 08:51 AM
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- 24 May 2016, 08:46 AM
Why are folk getting upset about the world "fenian"? And the fact it will upset supporters of other clubs into the bargain too is a nice wee bonus. Irish tosh.
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24 May 2016, 08:52 AM
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I'm not sure people are getting upset. I just raised a genuine question: Why is it an okay word for us to belt out but it's an offence at Uefa level for others to?
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24 May 2016, 08:56 AM
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I'm not sure people are getting upset. I just raised a genuine question: Why is it an okay word for us to belt out but it's an offence at Uefa level for others to? It was explained to you. It's ours to use as we wish. We aren't racially abusing ourselves.
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24 May 2016, 08:57 AM
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I'm not sure people are getting upset. I just raised a genuine question: Why is it an okay word for us to belt out but it's an offence at Uefa level for others to? The word fenian isn't offensive, so Celtic fans singing about a "fenian army" isn't offensive.
Someone directing shouts or chants of "fenian bastard" is offensive though, surely you can differentiate between the two?
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24 May 2016, 09:04 AM
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Progressive forward thinking Coach greeted by backwards insular chant.
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24 May 2016, 09:04 AM
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I'm not sure people are getting upset. I just raised a genuine question: Why is it an okay word for us to belt out but it's an offence at Uefa level for others to?
The word fenian isn't offensive, so Celtic fans singing about a "fenian army" isn't offensive. Someone directing shouts or chants of "fenian bastard" is offensive though, surely you can differentiate between the two? i agree it is like the difference in saying someone is black and someone is a black bastard. huge difference.
ps i hate the fenian army song
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24 May 2016, 09:04 AM
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- 23 May 2016, 10:31 PM
I'm glad the misgivings about BRFA have been brought up. It has always been a mystery to me that it's deemed okay by some for us to use the f word but highly offensive for others to. No doubt someone with deeper knowledge will explain to me why. Good god, Is this what our support bother themselves with in the midst of all the great things about yesterday?
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24 May 2016, 09:06 AM
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"If we take others' use of Fenian to mean (derogatorily) Catholic then we should be careful about how we use it ourselves." How others use it is up to them. I'm a Tim, not particulary Fenian, but a Tim. I've been called a Tim bass' before. I've heard "effin Tims, eff they Tims," etc. Should I be careful about calling myself a Tim?
I'm clearly not the word police. You can do/say what you like. I just don't think a word which has caused offence to many across Scotland and beyond should be used in celebration of players managers from the North. It's reductive, it's reverse stereotyping and it's entrenching ourselves in a silly debate when we have bigger fish to fry.
You are correct we do have bigger fish to fry. Which makes the bedwetting over a word from the likes of you all the more laughable.
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24 May 2016, 09:08 AM
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Ok, I think we can move on from this particular long and winding Fenian road.
Even if you don't agree with the use of the word Fenian in a Celtic song, I'm sure the difference between that song and the term "Fenian bastard" is patently obvious to everyone.
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24 May 2016, 09:12 AM
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Ok, I think we can move on from this particular long and winding Fenian road.
Even if you don't agree with the use of the word Fenian in a Celtic song, I'm sure the difference between that song and the term "Fenian bastard" is patently obvious to everyone. KDS's Atticus Finch at his best
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24 May 2016, 09:30 AM
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- 24 May 2016, 08:52 AM
I'm not sure people are getting upset. I just raised a genuine question: Why is it an okay word for us to belt out but it's an offence at Uefa level for others to? Not this argument again
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