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Brendan Rodgers; "I was born into Celtic"
Topic Started: 20 May 2016, 05:06 PM (2,288,459 Views)
shugmc
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nicklad
23 May 2016, 11:03 PM
shugmc
23 May 2016, 11:02 PM
The word Fenian is ours to reclaim, after years of pejorative and bigoted use by others.
You want the club to be supported only by people happy to identify themselves as Fenians?
What the f*ck are you talking about?
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23 May 2016, 11:07 PM
dazabhoy67
23 May 2016, 10:43 PM
Cant really afford a season ticket with the wee one on the way. I didn't really expect to be able to find time or money next year for a few games and after this year wasn't too bothered either. Will definitely be trying to save a little bit every month or 2 to take in at least 1 game.
In the same position man. I have a pang of guilt about it, but the wee one's always the most important!
You can have other kids, theres only 1 Celtic :rocker:
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Hairs on the back of the neck were up tonight inside the park, you could feel the real anticipation and relief from everyone, the stadium for his first game will be bursting at the seems, got a great feeling about St Brendan and what the future will bring, can't wait for the season to start

Brendan Rodgers Fenian Army.....
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If he does nothing else, he has brought an air of optimism which has been absent for a very long time
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23 May 2016, 11:04 PM
Celtic Research:

Brendan Rodgers speaking informally to some Celtic fans at the press conference today. This is a guy who "gets it"

https://twitter.com/CelticResearch/status/734846861597679617
Even more on board with this than I was before having listened to that. The passion and determination he speaks with :rocker:
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Funny how the word Fenian never used to be a problem, and now it is :suspect:

I'm happy for the mockraged, handwringers, knickerwetters, and closet huns to be offended on my behalf :thumbsup:
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23 May 2016, 11:08 PM
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23 May 2016, 10:53 PM
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23 May 2016, 10:31 PM
I'm glad the misgivings about BRFA have been brought up. It has always been a mystery to me that it's deemed okay by some for us to use the f word but highly offensive for others to. No doubt someone with deeper knowledge will explain to me why.
It's tawdry and embarrassing.

The fact its use has come up in songs about two from the North means it is a kind of reverse stereotyping.

I bet he dislikes it.

As for Spurs using Yid and the N word being used (particularly in hip hop); there have been compelling arguments within both communities against its use.

If we take others' use of Fenian to mean (derogatorily) Catholic then we should be careful about how we use it ourselves.

If this is a club with the type of aspirations BR identified himself today then I think this chant is a bad idea. Would you want your 8 year-old daughter or son joining in?

Sorry to sound a negative note in such a positive thread but today is about thinking big and that means including as many people as possible. BR has thought big throughout his career from Carnlough to Anfield and Celtic Park. We should do the same.

"If we take others' use of Fenian to mean (derogatorily) Catholic then we should be careful about how we use it ourselves."

How others use it is up to them. I'm a Tim, not particulary Fenian, but a Tim. I've been called a Tim bass' before. I've heard "effin Tims, eff they Tims," etc. Should I be careful about calling myself a Tim?
I'm clearly not the word police. You can do/say what you like.

I just don't think a word which has caused offence to many across Scotland and beyond should be used in celebration of players managers from the North.

It's reductive, it's reverse stereotyping and it's entrenching ourselves in a silly debate when we have bigger fish to fry.
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23 May 2016, 11:11 PM
nicklad
23 May 2016, 11:03 PM
shugmc
23 May 2016, 11:02 PM
The word Fenian is ours to reclaim, after years of pejorative and bigoted use by others.
You want the club to be supported only by people happy to identify themselves as Fenians?
What the f*ck are you talking about?
your use of "ours".

Who do you mean?
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44bhoy
23 May 2016, 11:08 PM
nicklad
23 May 2016, 10:53 PM
searcher52
23 May 2016, 10:31 PM
I'm glad the misgivings about BRFA have been brought up. It has always been a mystery to me that it's deemed okay by some for us to use the f word but highly offensive for others to. No doubt someone with deeper knowledge will explain to me why.
It's tawdry and embarrassing.

The fact its use has come up in songs about two from the North means it is a kind of reverse stereotyping.

I bet he dislikes it.

As for Spurs using Yid and the N word being used (particularly in hip hop); there have been compelling arguments within both communities against its use.

If we take others' use of Fenian to mean (derogatorily) Catholic then we should be careful about how we use it ourselves.

If this is a club with the type of aspirations BR identified himself today then I think this chant is a bad idea. Would you want your 8 year-old daughter or son joining in?

Sorry to sound a negative note in such a positive thread but today is about thinking big and that means including as many people as possible. BR has thought big throughout his career from Carnlough to Anfield and Celtic Park. We should do the same.

"If we take others' use of Fenian to mean (derogatorily) Catholic then we should be careful about how we use it ourselves."

How others use it is up to them. I'm a Tim, not particulary Fenian, but a Tim. I've been called a Tim bass' before. I've heard "effin Tims, eff they Tims," etc. Should I be careful about calling myself a Tim?
Considering the tearm 'Tim' comes from a derogatory insult that we reclaimed, maybe you should.
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shugmc
23 May 2016, 11:14 PM
Funny how the word Fenian never used to be a problem, and now it is :suspect:

I'm happy for the mockraged, handwringers, knickerwetters, and closet huns to be offended on my behalf :thumbsup:
Nah, this has never came up before has it?

And oh yes, anyone who might feel differently to you is a Hun.



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And then the thread, having started with such joy, lost all its fun...
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23 May 2016, 10:25 PM
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23 May 2016, 10:18 PM
Any idea why John Kennedy is remaining ?
Do you want him sacked?
Not necessarily but considering how chaotic our defending has been, how often we've struggled to do the most basic defence against set pieces in Europe, his qualities seem extremely questionable to say the least.
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The obvious point is that you don't need to be a 'fenian' to be part of the fenian army. Do you think most Spurs fans who sing about the 'Yids' are actually Jewish?

These things are about an eff you to people who would try to put you down with these terms. They're not about excluding anyone or making Celtic an exclusive thing. In fact, it's the opposite.
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All this mock outrage over a word that was never a problem before is cringeworthy. Just a case of moral point scoring.
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23 May 2016, 11:19 PM
And then the thread, having started with such joy, lost all its fun...
I take your point.

Had my say now, will leave it there.
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few articles from tomorrows papers

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His eyes were bright again. He was laughing and telling stories, urging supporters to dream and promising to uphold a proud club’s traditions.

Sitting in the No 7 restaurant, a shrine to some of the greatest players in Celtic’s history, Brendan Rodgers looked and sounded once more like the man who took Liverpool to within two points of the Barclays Premier League in spring 2014, not the one who was ushered out the door in autumn 2015.

Though there have been possibilities to manage in England since it ended abruptly at Anfield on October 4, a call from Celtic owner Dermot Desmond last Wednesday – after an initial meeting in London – convinced Rodgers he should re-launch his managerial career in Glasgow’s goldfish bowl.

Many will feel he has nothing to gain, given the Scottish Premier League has become a one-horse race. What currency to a manager is silverware secured north of the border? Rodgers knows all about those issues, particularly as some of his confidantes tried to dissuade him from joining Celtic.

But he wouldn’t listen. Rodgers was ready to get to work again and as he was presented to a big crowd at Parkhead, it was impossible not to see the difference some time out of the spotlight has made. Leaving Liverpool was a scarring episode but he now has closure.

‘It was hard on me,’ said Rodgers. ‘But I have had a good break. People might say this is a (step down) but they don’t know Celtic. I have come into a huge club here. There is a brand of clubs that are renowned worldwide: Liverpool is one, Celtic is another. It’s a huge honour to come here.

‘I loved every minute of my time at Liverpool. Of course, it was tough towards the end. But they have brought in an outstanding manager (Jurgen Klopp) who will go on and do very well. I’ve been able to take a step back from it.

‘The expectation at Liverpool is huge, having not won the league for so long and then getting so close. The difficult part was getting so close and then we never really built on that squad but I have been able to stay fit and I feel good.

‘I will just remember the positives from there. We made the supporters smile, we went as close anyone to winning the title and we played a brand of football that excited people and the supporters loved. With a little bit more luck we could have won it.’

That will be the least he is expected to do with Celtic. Of course Rangers are back in the top flight, which will add spice to the campaign, but not even their most partisan fanatic will expect them to push for the top next year. Aberdeen, similarly, won’t have the resources to keep pace.

Europe, therefore, will be the gauge that many will use to judge Rodgers. Celtic’s performances in the Champions League and Europa League in the last couple of seasons have been lamentable and that is something he must change.

But he is not daunted. Far from it. This, clearly, is the right challenge at the right time and the fact he has personally negotiated a 12-month rolling contract with Desmond is not, he says, a sign of not being in it for the long-haul or that he is hankering for a quick return to England.

‘Swansea contacted me in January when Garry Monk left,’ said Rodgers, who grew up supporting Celtic. ‘But I was always clear I wanted to break out. When I left Liverpool, I could have been in a Premier League job the next day. On the Monday, I got a call from a club.

‘But I wanted to have time out from the intensity of managing big clubs and the pressures that come with it. With Swansea, it was a case of me telling Huw Jenkins in January that I wouldn’t be able to go back to work, but in the summer I would be.

‘We had a few conversations and a lot of it was linked to the new ownership. That new ownership isn’t ready to go through yet. I could have waited and maybe got a job in the Premier League, but I hope to be managing for another 20-odd years. The chance to manage Celtic might not come again.’

Rodgers is yet to decide who will join him in Glasgow as he remodels his backroom staff. He could reunite with Ryland Morgans, his fitness coach at Swansea and Liverpool, but he gave no indication that he would be bringing Steven Gerrard in as his assistant.

‘I’ve never even considered anything like that,’ said Rodgers. ‘Stevie is a very good player and he’s an incredible man and was an incredible captain for me. When he finishes in LA he will have a number of options. But it’s not even been a consideration at this moment.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3605470/New-Celtic-boss-Brendan-Rodgers-benefited-time-spotlight-looks-sounds-like-man-delivered-Premier-League-Liverpool.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490


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Brendan Rodgers: Why I couldn't turn down Celtic

BRENDAN RODGERS revealed he couldn’t say ‘no’ to Celtic after Dermot Desmond’s relentless pursuit.

The club’s new manager spoke with Desmond initially out of courtesy as he pondered his next move, seven months after leaving Liverpool.

And the way Celtic’s powerbroker pulled out all the stops persuaded the Northern Irishman to sign a 12-month rolling contract reputedly worth £2.3million per year.

Rodgers has knocked back several offers from England and abroad and needed to be convinced a move to the SPFL was in his best interests. But Desmond’s passionate sales pitch paid off.

“That was a big swaying factor,” said Rodgers. “I met Dermot in London along with Peter Lawwell.

“It was important they wanted me here and that’s what I got from them. They really wanted me to manage Celtic.

“Dermot made it pretty clear I was the one they wanted here.

“It’s not then so much about money or anything like that. It was purely that Celtic wanted me here as manager.

“I came away really impressed by Dermot.

“I could see the hunger and passion in his eyes.

“He wasn’t just talking through any old spiel to get me here. He has a real, genuine passion and love for the club.

“Following that, he made a couple of really important calls to me.

“We had a long conversation one night. We were about half-an-hour on the phone.”

Rodgers has a limited budget to spend, but he is comfortable with shopping for deals.

The 43-year-old is confident he can fend off domestic challengers to add to five-in-a-row in the Premiership and lead Celtic back into the Champions League group stage – a feat that eluded predecessor Ronny Deila in his two seasons in charge.

Rodgers said: “For me, the objective is pretty clear – to continue with domination of Scottish football and to make an impact on European football.

“The traditions of Celtic becoming the first British team to win the European Cup is very important.

“There have been many great nights in Europe here. The opportunity to revive those fortunes and get into the Champions League is something I will enjoy.

“My job is to get 60,000 back in here and excite the fans, have a team scoring goals and winning. If we do that, we’ll be on the right track.”
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/673095/Brendan-Rodgers-Why-I-couldn-t-turn-down-Celtic-Scotland-News-Gossip
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A very exciting day. Hopefully the big man can live up to all the enthusiasm the supporters have for him.

Never seen anything like it.
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23 May 2016, 11:18 PM
shugmc
23 May 2016, 11:14 PM
Funny how the word Fenian never used to be a problem, and now it is :suspect:

I'm happy for the mockraged, handwringers, knickerwetters, and closet huns to be offended on my behalf :thumbsup:
Nah, this has never came up before has it?

And oh yes, anyone who might feel differently to you is a Hun.
I don't recall any previous debate about that word :suspect:

Besides, anyone with McStay in their username can't possibly be a hun :huddle:
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Glad to read there that Desmond made this happen. Say what you want about him but he's not stupid. He obviously seen how far back the club had fallen. Still can't believe they pulled it off to be fair
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Having watched the press conference and interviews, he's surprised me today by being quite un-Brendan Rodgers. If you compare him at Liverpool - expressive, verbose, and a bit full of himself - to today, it really looks to me like he's spent the last few months thinking about how he comes across and trying to tone down the David Brent tendencies he's displayed in the past. He pulled in 13,000 to see him, and he was the one who seemed a bit overawed. I'm sure he'll settle in and we'll see more of the Brendan Rodgers we all know and love, but I was pleasantly surprised by how humble and down-to-earth he seemed today.
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