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Kristoffer Ajer; Signs new 4 year contract.
Topic Started: 15 Feb 2016, 05:48 PM (243,380 Views)
Bagheera
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He made three pretty big errors, especially the Windass one in the first half. He needs to make better decisions and to not commit too early but he's still learning and has plenty of potential.
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Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 04:22 PM
Just re-watched full game from yesterday and kept a close eye on him, mainly because I was debating with a few posters who were criticising him in the Boyata thread.

He made 3 mistakes in the whole game. The first was around the 37th minute when he was caught napping and let Windass through who made an arse of the cross. The second was around the 71st minute when he was caught up the field and lost his runner, Tavernier put a ball into the box which was cleared by Boyata. The third was in the 88th minute where he ran into trouble and Candias shot wide.

Apart from the above, he was faultless. Everything else he done ranged from good to excellent. He didn’t lose a single aerial duel and didn’t misplace a single pass. In fact it was him intercepting a hun pass in our half that led to the second goal. He also won a fantastic header which put Griffiths through who should have scored.

Found the criticism of him bizarre and haven’t changed my mind after watching it again. 2 out of his 3 bad moments occurred when it was 5-0 and we were cruising. There was more good than bad with him yesterday and in general he played well.
I like the big man; I think he has a lot of potential.

the first mistake as you called it wasn't a wee mistake, he totally lost his man and had no idea were he was.

if he learns and develops then the reality is he's a young guy he will make mistakes and it was it is as learning from it that is important but it was dreadful and against a decent team it would have cost us a goal without any question... it was only the fact that windass couldn't roll the ball 6 yards backwards that prevented it.

he needs to learn not to lunge forward without understanding where his man or where he is going bc at the moment if you have someone with some decent movement he has a problem.

Where BR could certainly help is not playing him in a 3 (we don't have enough pace to play it in general and not just him) also when boyata goes play him on right hand-side of a central pairing; he is obviously very uncomfortable tackling and passing on his left.

Edited by _7_, 30 Apr 2018, 04:57 PM.
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Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
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30 Apr 2018, 04:51 PM
Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 04:22 PM
Just re-watched full game from yesterday and kept a close eye on him, mainly because I was debating with a few posters who were criticising him in the Boyata thread.

He made 3 mistakes in the whole game. The first was around the 37th minute when he was caught napping and let Windass through who made an arse of the cross. The second was around the 71st minute when he was caught up the field and lost his runner, Tavernier put a ball into the box which was cleared by Boyata. The third was in the 88th minute where he ran into trouble and Candias shot wide.

Apart from the above, he was faultless. Everything else he done ranged from good to excellent. He didn’t lose a single aerial duel and didn’t misplace a single pass. In fact it was him intercepting a hun pass in our half that led to the second goal. He also won a fantastic header which put Griffiths through who should have scored.

Found the criticism of him bizarre and haven’t changed my mind after watching it again. 2 out of his 3 bad moments occurred when it was 5-0 and we were cruising. There was more good than bad with him yesterday and in general he played well.
I like the big man; I think he has a lot of potential.

the first mistake as you called it wasn't a wee mistake, he totally lost his man and had no idea were he was.

if he learns and develops then the reality is he's a young guy he will make mistakes and it was it is as learning from it that is important but it was dreadful and against a decent team it would have cost us a goal without any question... it was only the fact that windass couldn't roll the ball 6 yards backwards that prevented it.

he needs to learn not to lunge forward without understanding where his man or where he is going bc at the moment if you have someone with some decent movement he has a problem.

Where BR could certainly help is not playing him in a 3 (we don't have enough pace to play it in general and not just him) also when boyata goes play him on right hand-side of a central pairing; he is obviously very uncomfortable tackling and passing on his left.

I think what you’re saying is fair, just to be clear I wasn’t claiming the mistake wasn’t a bad one. Fully recognise it could have cost us against better opposition.

It’s fair that a young centre back who was originally a midfielder will make mistakes but he has all the potential in the world and learning from them will help him develop more.

I would like us to sign a quality experienced centre half for him to play alongside. Boyata was excellent yesterday but has previously came up short in Europe and his contract situation is still to be resolved. I thought Compper was going to be that guy but god knows what’s going on with him!!
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
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The guy has potential, no doubt, but I don't think we should be relying on him when we play better teams in Europe. The mistakes he makes would more likely be punished against better teams. We need to get the CB problem sorted out before the qualifiers. Need at least one first team ready experienced guy. Ajer needs more time to develop.
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Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 05:07 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
Agree with that as well, in fact Boyata let the pass go through and Ajer narrowed the angle. Yeah Ajer doesn't seem comfortable on the left, which is what I was badly while pished trying to say yesterday :lol:
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I really like Ajer, but he had a poor game against them at Hampden, and although he was a bit better yesterday he still had a couple of howlers.
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Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 05:07 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
Agree with this - Ajer is positioned goal side of a completely different player

Boyata's positioning here looks faulty & Ajer is marking someone else altogether
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He should probably be here - right in line with the run and perfectly placed to track it
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I’m not so sure Ajer is at fault here either.

Another positive is that the ball’s barely left the Sevco players foot and Ajer has already seen and reacted to the pass.
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He’s too eager to dive in at times, or to attack the ball when he’s not going to get there. He’ll learn.
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He definitely has potential but he's a rash defender atm.

Dives in too much, tries to play offside or dribble past men when he shouldn't. If he can iron this stuff out he'll be a player.
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He’s a midfielder.
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Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 05:07 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
Absolutely. Looks like a classic case of blaming the player who ends up nearest rather than looking at what actually happened.

Some confirmation bias in this thread. Ajer had a decent game on Sunday.
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I'm absolutely stoked to have us target young players with this much professionalism & potential, Ajer will have a fantastic career.

If we are also getting guys like NtCham, (Edouard, Roberts & Musonda loans) as well as the likes of Christie, Morgan & Hendry from Scottish Clubs - then I'm more than happy to allow them to develop & make the odd mistake.

It's the right approach & one that we can really build on with a manager/coach such as Brendan.
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Haitch
30 Apr 2018, 05:07 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
It was McGregor, he was caught ball watching.

If you watch it back, you can see the moment McGregor realises that its his man that is through on goal.
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30 Apr 2018, 06:43 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 05:07 PM
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30 Apr 2018, 04:59 PM
Ajer should have done better when their midfield runner burst through in the inside-left channel in the first half. He wasn't totally culpable but he was best placed to see the danger and reacted too slow.

Gordon saved it but, on another day, that could be a goal.
I know the chance you’re talking about and I don’t think Ajer is at fault there at all. Holt runs behind and none of our midfielders do their job and track him. I actually think Ajer does well in that situation to close Holt down and not give him a free shot at goal.
Agree with this - Ajer is positioned goal side of a completely different player

Boyata's positioning here looks faulty & Ajer is marking someone else altogether
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He should probably be here - right in line with the run and perfectly placed to track it
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It's a midfield runner.....where are Brown and Ntcham?
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Agree with this - Ajer is positioned goal side of a completely different player

Boyata's positioning here looks faulty & Ajer is marking someone else altogether
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He should probably be here - right in line with the run and perfectly placed to track it
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It's a midfield runner.....where are Brown and Ntcham?
It’s McGregor’s man. He is at fault. It was a decent pass and he didn’t track his man.
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He should probably be here - right in line with the run and perfectly placed to track it
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It's a midfield runner.....where are Brown and Ntcham?
It’s McGregor’s man. He is at fault. It was a decent pass and he didn’t track his man.
Yep. I think Ajer actually reads the situation quite well.
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He should probably be here - right in line with the run and perfectly placed to track it
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It's a midfield runner.....where are Brown and Ntcham?
It’s McGregor’s man. He is at fault. It was a decent pass and he didn’t track his man.
McGregor's tracking is still one of his biggest faults - Running alongside an opponent and not putting in a tackle at the end of it is not tracking - He still has a habit of running back to the edge of our box and then leaving it to the defence.
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