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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,569 Views)
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Tenenbaum
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7 Jul 2018, 01:22 AM
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Anybody interested in grabbing a couple of burgers and hittin' the cemetery?
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Local club, based in the community that grew them. A decent English club. Like Man City used to be.
Seriously? City are actually nearly back in their original stamping grounds of West Gorton and Ardwick. They have literally pumped hundreds of millions of pounds into the regeneration of east Manchester and have (I’d argue) one of the best community schemes in the UK which they fund entirely charitably unlike just about any other club in the UK (I’d even go as far to say it is arguable that their community scheme is better than Charlton and QPR who have been way ahead of everyone for yonks). They were one of first clubs to have an SLO and their fan liaison nowadays is par excellence. They do have a lot of jumped up Jonny come lately fans and tourists following them now, but in their most recent periods in Div 2 and Div3 (old money) they were attracting 30k crowds and sold out every away ground. Last season, they had second cheapest ST which was £100 cheaper than next cheapest and only £10 more than the cheapest (West Ham). There are minuses too (eg buying up local talent to detriment of other clubs and kids themselves) and they may have won the lottery, but they ARE by any definition a community club. Everton have a very good and strong connection with their community but - post WWII - they have never been one of the “big five” consistently if ever (and I’m not saying City have). They are up there with Villa, Wednesday, Newcastle, Sunderland, Sheffield Utd, Wolves, Preston, Bolton, Burnley and Blackburn - trading on long-past glories when football was always in black and white, players wore brylcreem and tacked boots, and footballs were like medicine balls. Did you get that off a press release?
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7 Jul 2018, 01:23 AM
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Fair dos to the Everton fan sticking up for his club. Everton are definitely a pedigree side in England. I don't think it'll come as any kind of surprise where people think they're at. In a lot of ways they're as much victims of new money football as we are in Scotland.
People sneer and say they could understand a top five club attracting Tierney but that was where Everton were at one point. If Chelsea ' s owner bought spurs as he wanted to do IIRC there probably wouldn't even be a Chelsea today. Everything has skewed since Sky got involved and clubs like Everton have taken a hit one way while we've been whacked another way.
Bottom line though is Everton haven't done much for a while in their respective situation, so with rumoured interest from teams who get into the CL I think that's why people can't get their head around chosing this as a first option. Pedigree club ned Aye? That pedigree club that have won nothing since 1995? Jeezo, there are folk on this forum that weren't born then!
Everton could get football banned, if they were playing on the field outside my flat I'd draw the blinds.
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7 Jul 2018, 01:34 AM
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No, they weren’t. And no, they’re not. They are mid-table also-rans who’ve been rubbish since about 1984...at best. They had a purple patch for two years in the late 60s and another in the 80s and that is it. In Scottish terms, they’re comparable with Kilmarnock.
What a load of crap. I have left this thread alone deliberately, but for the latest poster to have a pop at Everton like this is pathetic. You obviously know nothing about English football mate, as Everton won two leagues, a Cup Winners Cup and were denied entry to the European Cup at the time by the antics of our neighbours after 1984. Tierney may or may not come here, but rest assured that (taking into account your Kilmarnock jibe) he will be involved in far more testing games than he will have in Scotland. I love Celtic, so will not slate the league in which they play. I will say though, that until these foreign investors turned up we were still competitive. Now that we are owned by a fella with a few bob we are looking to compete again, and the likes of Tierney may help us. I have studied him, however, and I reckon he will struggle physically in the Premier League. The standard in Scotland generally is nowhere near the standard down here. I hope Tierney succeeds, at Celtic, at Goodison, or wherever he finishes up. I'll leave you in ignorance about Southampton's standing compared to Everton's in English football. Good luck to the Celts this coming season. Stevie G will really push you...... Comparisons with Kilmarnock are spot on. One time league winners, three Scottish Cups and recent League Cup Winners (far more recent than any Everton trophy). Also Fairs Cup semi finalists.
Also, if you had actually studied KT closely, the last thing you would suggest is that he is not up to the physical demands of any league.
Finally, you say you won’t slate the SPFL then say it is nowhere near the standard in England.
I call shenanigans.
EDIT- in what sense were they competitive other than one rogue 4th place finish?
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richiebhoy1888
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7 Jul 2018, 04:48 AM
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As for those dissing Everton, whilst it would undoubtedly be a lateral move, so was Southampton for Wanyama and VvD and look at them now.
I’ve not understood why people are dissing Everton . In English football Everton are a massive club. Before the influx of foreign money they were a far bigger club than either Chelsea or Man City. Granted theyre not as good as they once were, but they’re still a huge club. They are easily a bigger club than Southampton
No, they weren’t. And no, they’re not. They are mid-table also-rans who’ve been rubbish since about 1984...at best. They had a purple patch for two years in the late 60s and another in the 80s and that is it. In Scottish terms, they’re comparable with Kilmarnock. Don’t talk utter pish . Everton are traditionally one of the biggest clubs in England . They are easier a far bigger club than Southampton , and pre Russian / Arab money were a bigger more successful club than either City or Chelski. Their team isn’t and hadn’t be good over recent years , but that still doesn’t mean they aren’t a big club
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richiebhoy1888
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7 Jul 2018, 04:51 AM
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What a load of crap. I have left this thread alone deliberately, but for the latest poster to have a pop at Everton like this is pathetic. You obviously know nothing about English football mate, as Everton won two leagues, a Cup Winners Cup and were denied entry to the European Cup at the time by the antics of our neighbours after 1984. Tierney may or may not come here, but rest assured that (taking into account your Kilmarnock jibe) he will be involved in far more testing games than he will have in Scotland. I love Celtic, so will not slate the league in which they play. I will say though, that until these foreign investors turned up we were still competitive. Now that we are owned by a fella with a few bob we are looking to compete again, and the likes of Tierney may help us. I have studied him, however, and I reckon he will struggle physically in the Premier League. The standard in Scotland generally is nowhere near the standard down here. I hope Tierney succeeds, at Celtic, at Goodison, or wherever he finishes up. I'll leave you in ignorance about Southampton's standing compared to Everton's in English football. Good luck to the Celts this coming season. Stevie G will really push you......
Comparisons with Kilmarnock are spot on. One time league winners, three Scottish Cups and recent League Cup Winners (far more recent than any Everton trophy). Also Fairs Cup semi finalists. Also, if you had actually studied KT closely, the last thing you would suggest is that he is not up to the physical demands of any league. Finally, you say you won’t slate the SPFL then say it is nowhere near the standard in England. I call shenanigans. EDIT- in what sense were they competitive other than one rogue 4th place finish? Comparisons with Kilmarnock are utter shampooe. Everton are a huge club ... just not very good at the minute
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7 Jul 2018, 06:02 AM
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Huge club or not. The last time they won anything was 1995.
In the big picture of the EPL that makes them a bang average club.
The ultimate outcome for any club in the EPL is to aspire to win trophies.
They have done sweet eff all for 23 years.
They think, like most of the EPL, they are a big club.
The trophy collection stats for them tells me otherwise.
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niall
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7 Jul 2018, 07:27 AM
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What a load of crap. I have left this thread alone deliberately, but for the latest poster to have a pop at Everton like this is pathetic. You obviously know nothing about English football mate, as Everton won two leagues, a Cup Winners Cup and were denied entry to the European Cup at the time by the antics of our neighbours after 1984. Tierney may or may not come here, but rest assured that (taking into account your Kilmarnock jibe) he will be involved in far more testing games than he will have in Scotland. I love Celtic, so will not slate the league in which they play. I will say though, that until these foreign investors turned up we were still competitive. Now that we are owned by a fella with a few bob we are looking to compete again, and the likes of Tierney may help us. I have studied him, however, and I reckon he will struggle physically in the Premier League. The standard in Scotland generally is nowhere near the standard down here. I hope Tierney succeeds, at Celtic, at Goodison, or wherever he finishes up. I'll leave you in ignorance about Southampton's standing compared to Everton's in English football. Good luck to the Celts this coming season. Stevie G will really push you......
It was a shock when Southampton looked like being relegated, it wasn’t when Liverpool’s other team looked like getting relegated, so aye there’s a difference. Kieran Tierney had about 4 pubes the last time your mob beat your ‘rivals’. I was more shocked thy Everton were in danger of being relegated than Southampton
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7 Jul 2018, 07:40 AM
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Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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Comparisons with Kilmarnock are spot on. One time league winners, three Scottish Cups and recent League Cup Winners (far more recent than any Everton trophy). Also Fairs Cup semi finalists. Also, if you had actually studied KT closely, the last thing you would suggest is that he is not up to the physical demands of any league. Finally, you say you won’t slate the SPFL then say it is nowhere near the standard in England. I call shenanigans. EDIT- in what sense were they competitive other than one rogue 4th place finish?
Comparisons with Kilmarnock are utter shampooe. Everton are a huge club ... just not very good at the minute Everton haven't enjoyed much success since the days of Peter Reid. They may once have been a huge club but they've been in decline for 20 years and more. Whether the new owners can arrest that decline, only time will tell.
Having said that, if KT leaves, ICGAF where he ends up.
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7 Jul 2018, 08:26 AM
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Still no bid then.
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7 Jul 2018, 08:58 AM
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Still no bid then. No, but more interestingly Everton are a bigger club than Southampton and were previously even bigger. Amazing stuff.
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7 Jul 2018, 09:04 AM
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The inferiority complex on here is laughable at times.
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7 Jul 2018, 09:44 AM
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It's kind of funny on here, the way people always bleat on about how SKY have skewed people's perception of clubs status, and that we're a bigger club than pretty much all the EPL, other than Man Utd and maybe Liverpool, and the nouveau riche are an anomaly that don't count. Then the same people deride Everton, a club who until two years ago, had more League titles than Chelsea and Man City combined, as a tinpot, perpetual relegation fighting Mickey Mouse club.
You can't moan that EPL fans are disrespectful and ignorant of Celtic status and history on one hand while sneering at any club outside they SKY favourites in the other.
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7 Jul 2018, 09:52 AM
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No, what you've got is carrots like Leicester, Everton, effing Crystal palace and the like thinking they're bigger and better because they are living off the coat tails of MU , Liverpool and Arsenal and getting basically free money from Sky.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:06 AM
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He can only speak to Everton if we have accepted a bid. His representatives can speak to anyone they wish. They don’t need to formally involve Tierney until it suits all parties.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:06 AM
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No, what you've got is carrots like Leicester, Everton, effing Crystal palace and the like thinking they're bigger and better because they are living off the coat tails of MU , Liverpool and Arsenal and getting basically free money from Sky.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:25 AM
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Fair dos to the Everton fan sticking up for his club. Everton are definitely a pedigree side in England. I don't think it'll come as any kind of surprise where people think they're at. In a lot of ways they're as much victims of new money football as we are in Scotland.
People sneer and say they could understand a top five club attracting Tierney but that was where Everton were at one point. If Chelsea ' s owner bought spurs as he wanted to do IIRC there probably wouldn't even be a Chelsea today. Everything has skewed since Sky got involved and clubs like Everton have taken a hit one way while we've been whacked another way.
Bottom line though is Everton haven't done much for a while in their respective situation, so with rumoured interest from teams who get into the CL I think that's why people can't get their head around chosing this as a first option.
Pedigree club ned Aye? That pedigree club that have won nothing since 1995? Jeezo, there are folk on this forum that weren't born then! Everton could get football banned, if they were playing on the field outside my flat I'd draw the blinds. On that subject, Liverpool got us all banned for their 'shenanigans'. And faux Shankly quotes mean nothing either. We called him Fish and Chips as he was always in the paper.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:28 AM
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It's kind of funny on here, the way people always bleat on about how SKY have skewed people's perception of clubs status, and that we're a bigger club than pretty much all the EPL, other than Man Utd and maybe Liverpool, and the nouveau riche are an anomaly that don't count. Then the same people deride Everton, a club who until two years ago, had more League titles than Chelsea and Man City combined, as a tinpot, perpetual relegation fighting Mickey Mouse club.
You can't moan that EPL fans are disrespectful and ignorant of Celtic status and history on one hand while sneering at any club outside they SKY favourites in the other. Great post mate. I've never had a pop at Celtic on this forum, and have been a Celtic follower for longer than most on here. Celtic are the big fish in the pond. We are a medium sized fish in a massive pond.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:28 AM
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Tin pot club. My nan could get a game for them.
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7 Jul 2018, 10:36 AM
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Tin pot club. My nan could get a game for them. Thing is, she couldn't though, eh? What do you think?
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7 Jul 2018, 10:38 AM
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Tin pot club. My nan could get a game for them. Hope she wasn't on trial there last year when Rooney was there
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