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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,573 Views)
Aidenho
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A player is worth whatever someone is willing to pay him. If he wants to leave because he feels that's what is in the best interest of him and his family it's petty and small minded to begrudge anyone wishing to pursue that opportunity.

I'd love him stay but if he wants to test himself at a higher level, more power to him. I'd wish him nothing but the best and remind him there will always be an open door should he ever want to return.
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6 Jul 2018, 01:02 PM
Tierney aside, it’s interesting to see how many people seem to think that a 21-year-old should make their career decisions based purely on money.
Likewise. Must be the Tory da's.

People are deluding themselves here about wishing him well and seeing him test himself at a higher level. There aren't many bigger tests in European football than lining up in a Brendan Rodgers side in the CL as a left back beside Boyata against PSG. Certainly a lot more challenging than playing against Crystal Palace. If he leaves, he's leaving for money. Yes, he probably sees Everton as a stepping stone to something bigger, but the timing just seems utterly bizarre. Why now? Why leave before the 10? As has been pointed out a million times, he'll only be 24 that summer and, to Celtic fans anyway, it seems the perfect time to challenge himself elsewhere.

I love Tierney. I really hope he stays. He embodies something intangible that's lost from the game and it felt (feels) like a unique connection between player and fans that we've not seen for many years and, with my average knowledge of European football, isn't particularly common anywhere.

I don't think anything he's said or done has been an act to endear himself. But I do think people have every right to feel extremely disappointed if he jumped so early. There's also the factor of slight embarrassment; "he's one of our own", telling fans of other clubs he'll never leave etc. These things turn to anger for the fickle football fan. He knows this. It's our right as fans and it's something he'll need to live with.
Sums it up for me - excellent post
x2 sums it up for me.
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Sums it up for me - excellent post
x2 sums it up for me.
Everything after the PSG comment, aye.

Lining up against PSG with Boyata is a challenge? Aye if getting your baws toed up and down the park for 90 minutes is your idea of a challenge.

Id be disappointed if he left right now. Even more so if it was for Everton, who contrary to Murphio and a few others, is a lateral move in footballing terms. Therefore if it's just for the money, that's one short sighted move for all concerned.
If there is such a thing as an unparalleled challenge, one he won't get anywhere else, then it's doing 10IAR as a Celtic player. By the end of his life that might well be, for him, the single most unforgettable moment of his playing career.

Tierney will leave and when that day comes I want it to be to the biggest club he can find, one that legitimately contends for the CL and their biggest domestic prizes.

Im sober enough to accept that there can be life after Celtic and while I'm perhaps being a bit of an idealist here, I want to see young people break records, do the unthinkable and accomplish at the very highest levels. It's good for them and good for all of us when that happens.

In short, stay KT, do the ten and when you do go, I'll be following your progress and supporting you from afar.
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6 Jul 2018, 02:10 PM
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People are deluding themselves here about wishing him well and seeing him test himself at a higher level. There aren't many bigger tests in European football than lining up in a Brendan Rodgers side in the CL as a left back beside Boyata against PSG. Certainly a lot more challenging than playing against Crystal Palace. If he leaves, he's leaving for money. Yes, he probably sees Everton as a stepping stone to something bigger, but the timing just seems utterly bizarre. Why now? Why leave before the 10? As has been pointed out a million times, he'll only be 24 that summer and, to Celtic fans anyway, it seems the perfect time to challenge himself elsewhere.
The EPL is vastly superior to Scottish football and offers players a chance to test themselves week in, week in against much better players. That is a far better development opportunity than a few games getting absolutely humped by PSG or whoever.

Of course money is a massive part of the decision but I don't think it's fair to say that players don't want to test them at a higher level rather than play against a very poor standard of opposition for 90% of their season playing in some pretty poor facilities in front of small crowds.
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I miss week out.
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It's pretty much incomparable for people to compare what they'd do in his position - we're fans who have never played for the club so of course you'd say you'd stay for ever. I'm surprised we've had no one say they'd play for free! KT has played for the club since he was a kid, his point of view will be radically different, like all other footballers.

The biggest question in this for me is why KT feels the need to do this now - what has happened? To be so young and so close to something historic it feels premature to be thinking of leaving now and he should be strongly advised to stay till then to continue developing. Maybe whatever has kicked this off though is backed up by the fact that 3 years may feel like a long time to someone who has already been a first team regular for quite a while.

As for those dissing Everton, whilst it would undoubtedly be a lateral move, so was Southampton for Wanyama and VvD and look at them now.
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6 Jul 2018, 03:46 PM
It's pretty much incomparable for people to compare what they'd do in his position - we're fans who have never played for the club so of course you'd say you'd stay for ever. I'm surprised we've had no one say they'd play for free! KT has played for the club since he was a kid, his point of view will be radically different, like all other footballers.

The biggest question in this for me is why KT feels the need to do this now - what has happened? To be so young and so close to something historic it feels premature to be thinking of leaving now and he should be strongly advised to stay till then to continue developing. Maybe whatever has kicked this off though is backed up by the fact that 3 years may feel like a long time to someone who has already been a first team regular for quite a while.

As for those dissing Everton, whilst it would undoubtedly be a lateral move, so was Southampton for Wanyama and VvD and look at them now.
Tierney hasn’t actually said anything though has he? Is it no Rodgers interview that has fuelled this?
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6 Jul 2018, 03:46 PM
It's pretty much incomparable for people to compare what they'd do in his position - we're fans who have never played for the club so of course you'd say you'd stay for ever. I'm surprised we've had no one say they'd play for free! KT has played for the club since he was a kid, his point of view will be radically different, like all other footballers.

The biggest question in this for me is why KT feels the need to do this now - what has happened? To be so young and so close to something historic it feels premature to be thinking of leaving now and he should be strongly advised to stay till then to continue developing. Maybe whatever has kicked this off though is backed up by the fact that 3 years may feel like a long time to someone who has already been a first team regular for quite a while.

As for those dissing Everton, whilst it would undoubtedly be a lateral move, so was Southampton for Wanyama and VvD and look at them now.
Tierney hasn’t actually said anything though has he? Is it no Rodgers interview that has fuelled this?
There was a rumor going around too. Seems like it all happened around the same time.
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As for those dissing Everton, whilst it would undoubtedly be a lateral move, so was Southampton for Wanyama and VvD and look at them now.
I’ve not understood why people are dissing Everton . In English football Everton are a massive club. Before the influx of foreign money they were a far bigger club than either Chelsea or Man City. Granted theyre not as good as they once were, but they’re still a huge club. They are easily a bigger club than Southampton
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So your answer is "cos he loves Celtic". Great stuff.
It's not unheard of for people to stay in jobs that offer lower salaries but provide more satisfaction overall. I left a well-paid job that I hated for something that makes me less money but leaves me feeling like a much happier person. Obviously, not everyone sees the world in those terms but money isn't always everything.
Yeah but if you love football then wouldn't the satisfaction generally be the same? Plus the perk of earning way more money at a club where there is less pressure?
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People are deluding themselves here about wishing him well and seeing him test himself at a higher level. There aren't many bigger tests in European football than lining up in a Brendan Rodgers side in the CL as a left back beside Boyata against PSG. Certainly a lot more challenging than playing against Crystal Palace. If he leaves, he's leaving for money. Yes, he probably sees Everton as a stepping stone to something bigger, but the timing just seems utterly bizarre. Why now? Why leave before the 10? As has been pointed out a million times, he'll only be 24 that summer and, to Celtic fans anyway, it seems the perfect time to challenge himself elsewhere.
The EPL is vastly superior to Scottish football and offers players a chance to test themselves week in, week in against much better players. That is a far better development opportunity than a few games getting absolutely humped by PSG or whoever.

Of course money is a massive part of the decision but I don't think it's fair to say that players don't want to test them at a higher level week in week out rather than play against a very poor standard of opposition for 90% of their season playing in some pretty poor facilities in front of small crowds.
The voice of Andy Walker.

Eff the EPL. Eff Everton. Eff an extra few bob.

Kieran Tierney has the potential to win 10IAR (possibly as captain). Personally, I wouldn't give that up for all the tea in China.

Some things in life are more important than money and personal development.
Okay mate but we aren't talking about you.

There's definitely more to it than money and no amount of impassioned internet statements about effing the EPL will change that.
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6 Jul 2018, 02:53 PM
A player is worth whatever someone is willing to pay him. If he wants to leave because he feels that's what is in the best interest of him and his family it's petty and small minded to begrudge anyone wishing to pursue that opportunity.

I'd love him stay but if he wants to test himself at a higher level, more power to him. I'd wish him nothing but the best and remind him there will always be an open door should he ever want to return.
If he leaves for Everton it will be a decision purely based on finance which is fair enough.Its his life.If it was based purely on his career I think looking at other cases like Dalglish,Liam Miller and Charlie Nicholas it would be beneficial to stay with us longer.Maybe he thinks he might not get another offer like that again.I’m sure in an ideal world he would like to stay for 10 in a row and maybe captain celtic but is money more important?
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It's not unheard of for people to stay in jobs that offer lower salaries but provide more satisfaction overall. I left a well-paid job that I hated for something that makes me less money but leaves me feeling like a much happier person. Obviously, not everyone sees the world in those terms but money isn't always everything.
Yeah but if you love football then wouldn't the satisfaction generally be the same? Plus the perk of earning way more money at a club where there is less pressure?
Football is a partisan sport though. So surely playing fpr certain clubs brings more satisfaction than others.
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We have to be wary that all of this infighting among the Celtic family is playing right into the hands of Alashkert- notorious devious bastards.
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Just wondering why if there has been no official anything.. nothing from KT and nothing from Everton then why are we into countless pages of nothing but 'I've heard , he's heard'??

If this was someone saying they'd heard Samaras told a pal he was coming back to CP the mods would lock it.

Strange that it's allowed to run without question because it's came from (supposed) ITK folks.
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Why would mods allow those with a track record of having inside information to say things and not silence them immediately? It just doesn't make any sense.
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Yeah but if you love football then wouldn't the satisfaction generally be the same? Plus the perk of earning way more money at a club where there is less pressure?
Football is a partisan sport though. So surely playing fpr certain clubs brings more satisfaction than others.
I'm sure it would. But the Op referenced his own work and satisification. I don't see that as relevant for a footballer. Footballers (with the exception of a former Spurs player) have the luxury of doing something they love and getting rewarded handsomely for it. That doesn't compare to a normal person in my eyes. Will any player get a higher level of satisification playing for their team, yes I'm sure they will but if they leave and get considerably more money to continue playing the sport they love then I don't feel they'd be considerably less satisfied.

When he leaves and who knows when that will be he will go with my wishes.
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Why would mods allow those with a track record of having inside information to say things and not silence them immediately? It just doesn't make any sense.
Because usually a (potential transfer) thread is based on facts instead of heresy.
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Why would mods allow those with a track record of having inside information to say things and not silence them immediately? It just doesn't make any sense.
Because usually a (potential transfer) thread is based on facts instead of heresy.
Witch u on about?
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Why would mods allow those with a track record of having inside information to say things and not silence them immediately? It just doesn't make any sense.
Because usually a (potential transfer) thread is based on facts instead of heresy.
Heresy right enough
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Why would mods allow those with a track record of having inside information to say things and not silence them immediately? It just doesn't make any sense.
Because usually a (potential transfer) thread is based on facts instead of heresy.
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