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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,598 Views)
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I thought with all the noise surrounding a (possible) move to Everton than some kind of bidding war might start eg Spurs, ManU
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Conflicting stories abound about who is forcing the hand here, so perhaps some of the rhetoric needs to be reigned in until we know the truth.

Maybe BR intends to play three at the back and KT doesn't fit into his plans and sees the £30m as a good pot to improve the team with. We simply don't know.
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Don't want KT to go but he would be fecking mad to knock back the kind of money that is allegedly being offered.

Ive slipped out the wtf Everton thinking, cos when/if he does go icgaf.

Now if the only constant in my footballing life, Celtic, could show some ambition on progressing with the money we undoubtedly have that would be a plus.

But "if you know the history" we fecking won't. :(
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Neither styled themselves as P O'Neill but.
Nothing to do with “styling” himself, he was being a genuine Celtic supporter the same way many of us would be in that situation. It still doesn’t mean we wouldn’t leave if offered the deal he seems to have been. He wasn’t lying to anyone when behaving like a supporter would.

He was/is a Celtic supporter. He’s a professional footballer. Fortunately for him he was able to combine the two. Then he was seemingly made an offer where he’d have to separate the two. If he chooses to go then it doesn’t mean he was faking it.

It’s professional football stuff, why the eff do people continue to be surprised by this. Tierney is a normal guy, same as any of us. We can all pontificate in here that we would play for Celtic forever, but none of us have an effin clue what that decision is like. And given the choice that these normal guys do make when actually in the situation, there’s no reason to think we’d all be any different.
I'm not surprised at all, just shocked people aren't laughing at it or more annoyed.

He's clearly been at it. Every interview near enough, has been about staying, being a mad Tim, etc. Chucks the chance to be a captain, take the ten, and all the rest of it. Aye, Celtic will get a few bob out of it, but we will end up buying another boy to 'make into a CL player.' We'll do very well to qualify this year, bedding half a new defence in or not bothering our arse and playing midfielders in defence.

Think of the abuse Miller got, and he wasn't even a full-blown Tim, nor made comments bout staying forever. He's getting a lot more goodwill than history suggests he's due. He's leaving Celtic in the lurch to suit himself. Thought we were all a big fhamily?
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Mayybe Paddy has tipped him the wink that he's off to Everton, and KT wants to keep the bromance going?
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4 Jul 2018, 01:56 AM
Some of the reactions on this thread are highly unreasonable. Every team/player has their price and £25m along with a hefty sell on fee is fair. I think Everton is a good move for him at this stage rather than transferring to a Man Utd and seriously risk spending the next few years not getting a game (like Luke Shaw). Teirney isn't a household name and won't be given a game due to reputation. Selling him at £25m would set a new standard for us and let teams know the days of us accepting £10m fees for our best players are over.

My issue, as always, is that Celtic won't reinvest the money adequately and willl low-ball teams for notable replacements, miss out on targets and then settle for a low-quality SPL signing or loan for a journeyman has-been.

My issue, as always, is that Celtic won't reinvest the money adequately and willl low-ball teams for notable replacements, miss out on targets and then settle for a low-quality SPL signing or loan for a journeyman has-been.

Spot on mate
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Everton. Espanyol. He deserves better.
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4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
Seem to be two very distinct versions of the truth out there. One places a lot of heat on Tierney and one would see an far greater amount of fury aimed at the club.

My money would have been on the club but the story that it's KT or his people came from a number of folk who have called things right before. Although maybe their sources are close to the board, so who knows.

If Tierney doesn't want to go, 30m or not, no one can force him to sign a contract. Dembele refused to move, and to varying extent so did Balde and Samaras.

I'd rather have the player and the opportunity to get into the CL than see the money diverted to a hotel or something. The stockpiling of cash is gambling with the opportunity to play at the highest level, never mind compete. We look as if we're devoting more time and energy to infrastructure than the team on the park.
Edited by Ned Rise, 4 Jul 2018, 09:09 AM.
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Nothing to do with “styling” himself, he was being a genuine Celtic supporter the same way many of us would be in that situation. It still doesn’t mean we wouldn’t leave if offered the deal he seems to have been. He wasn’t lying to anyone when behaving like a supporter would.

He was/is a Celtic supporter. He’s a professional footballer. Fortunately for him he was able to combine the two. Then he was seemingly made an offer where he’d have to separate the two. If he chooses to go then it doesn’t mean he was faking it.

It’s professional football stuff, why the eff do people continue to be surprised by this. Tierney is a normal guy, same as any of us. We can all pontificate in here that we would play for Celtic forever, but none of us have an effin clue what that decision is like. And given the choice that these normal guys do make when actually in the situation, there’s no reason to think we’d all be any different.
I'm not surprised at all, just shocked people aren't laughing at it or more annoyed.

He's clearly been at it. Every interview near enough, has been about staying, being a mad Tim, etc. Chucks the chance to be a captain, take the ten, and all the rest of it. Aye, Celtic will get a few bob out of it, but we will end up buying another boy to 'make into a CL player.' We'll do very well to qualify this year, bedding half a new defence in or not bothering our arse and playing midfielders in defence.

Think of the abuse Miller got, and he wasn't even a full-blown Tim, nor made comments bout staying forever. He's getting a lot more goodwill than history suggests he's due. He's leaving Celtic in the lurch to suit himself. Thought we were all a big fhamily?
I’m not annoyed at his decision, it’s his job. Just so happens he now needs to separate it from being a supporter. Doesn’t mean he was previously at it, or not a genuine supporter.

And although I’d rather he didn’t go, I think £25m is a decent price for a player of his ability.

I’m annoyed at the club having such a shampooe squad of defenders that we now seem to be effed by the World Cup and one left-back choosing to leave. We’ve known for years how the CL works and we continue to be utterly catastrophic in our preparations.
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Ned Rise
4 Jul 2018, 09:07 AM
oneillsrevolution
4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
Seem to be two very distinct versions of the truth out there. One places a lot of heat on Tierney and one would see an far greater amount of fury aimed at the club.

My money would have been on the club but the story that it's KT or his people came from a number of folk who have called things right before. Although maybe their sources are close to the board, so who knows.

If Tierney doesn't want to go, 30m or not, no one can force him to sign a contract. Dembele refused to move, and to varying extent so did Balde and Samaras.

I'd rather have the player and the opportunity to get into the CL than see the money diverted to a hotel or something. The stockpiling of cash is gambling with the opportunity to play at the highest level, never mind compete. We look as if we're devoting more time and energy to infrastructure than the team on the park.
Absolutely certain given who sources are that this is coming from his side

I'd be the first on here to give it tight to the board but this is not their doing

The important thing is to handle it right - the paddy roberts saga was a mess last summer and we were hopeless in europe i think partly because we diverted recruitment focus to roberts

If KT is being sold the decision should be taken now and we should have feel for minimum we are going to get

And then get on with the reinvestment now - don't wait till Tierney deal done as in all probability we will be 10 august by time done and then get squeezed on our purchases both in money terms and on time

We had the money without KT funds to strengthen and with armstrong and him going and roberts gone even with rogic and edouard back on board and hopefully demebele we should be using monies in bank and funds from KT to strengthen significantly at back - especially given we may have jozo and boyata issues to come
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Maybe yon state aid fella that blogged a couple of weeks ago that we were skint was right after all...

Aye right, effing hun walloper
Edited by Franklin McAvennie, 4 Jul 2018, 09:19 AM.
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4 Jul 2018, 08:46 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
That's rubbish.
If Tierney doesn't want to go, he can't be forced.
Same scenario as Jimmy McGrory back in the 1930's.
Yeah man. I can see why a football player who was paid £8 a week almost a century ago is relevant to this discussion.
Edited by oneillsrevolution, 4 Jul 2018, 09:27 AM.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:07 AM
oneillsrevolution
4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
Seem to be two very distinct versions of the truth out there. One places a lot of heat on Tierney and one would see an far greater amount of fury aimed at the club.

My money would have been on the club but the story that it's KT or his people came from a number of folk who have called things right before. Although maybe their sources are close to the board, so who knows.

If Tierney doesn't want to go, 30m or not, no one can force him to sign a contract. Dembele refused to move, and to varying extent so did Balde and Samaras.

I'd rather have the player and the opportunity to get into the CL than see the money diverted to a hotel or something. The stockpiling of cash is gambling with the opportunity to play at the highest level, never mind compete. We look as if we're devoting more time and energy to infrastructure than the team on the park.
Just passing on the stories from those who know hom in Wishy :thumbsup:

What seems very strange to me is lots of people on here immediately exonerated the Celtic board and blamed the player/new agent etc.

Celtic board have been desperate for a break-through transfer for a player we've developed. KT is offered life changing sums. I think somewhere in the middle is closer to the truth.
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Looks like we've more Celtic Da's than we thought.
Some seriously Tonto posts.

I'll believe it when I see it, it makes no sense whatsoever for us to sell him.
CL money has gone up.
We've almost £40m or so in the bank, including the VVD & Armstrong money which wasn't included in the last financials.
We're going for 10IAR & have just done back to back trebles.
As much as we want to be seen as a stepping stone to Shangri-La, we won't attract the calibre of player required without a CL presence (even as cannonfodder).
We've been talking & building ourselves up to being a CL Club.
The manager loves KT.
KT loves the Club, the Fans & the Manager.

I can't believe we'd go against ALL of the above, just because Everton flash their pants at KT & Paddy Roberts or KT's agent tells him how little money he's on at Celtic.
None of this sounds plausible & as much as I trust BallBhoy's posts on the leaked team sheets, I think he's well wide of the mark here.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:12 AM
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I'm not surprised at all, just shocked people aren't laughing at it or more annoyed.

He's clearly been at it. Every interview near enough, has been about staying, being a mad Tim, etc. Chucks the chance to be a captain, take the ten, and all the rest of it. Aye, Celtic will get a few bob out of it, but we will end up buying another boy to 'make into a CL player.' We'll do very well to qualify this year, bedding half a new defence in or not bothering our arse and playing midfielders in defence.

Think of the abuse Miller got, and he wasn't even a full-blown Tim, nor made comments bout staying forever. He's getting a lot more goodwill than history suggests he's due. He's leaving Celtic in the lurch to suit himself. Thought we were all a big fhamily?
I’m not annoyed at his decision, it’s his job. Just so happens he now needs to separate it from being a supporter. Doesn’t mean he was previously at it, or not a genuine supporter.

And although I’d rather he didn’t go, I think £25m is a decent price for a player of his ability.

I’m annoyed at the club having such a shampooe squad of defenders that we now seem to be effed by the World Cup and one left-back choosing to leave. We’ve known for years how the CL works and we continue to be utterly catastrophic in our preparations.
I’m always up for slagging the board, that’s my default stance in January, June, July and August, but this goes deeper than the common sense you’re displaying. He’s the emotional attachment we all have with Celtic at the moment. He makes me feel more love for Celtic than I have in ages, and if he leaves I don’t see anyone in the side who represents Celtic in the Burns/Tierney way. As much as I love Forrest and Brown, I’ll be effing gutted, and no amount of logic is going to help that.
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A lot of people are referring to him jumping ship at the first offer when it’s clearly not the case. We know of Arsenal’s interest a few years back at the very least. I dare say we’ve had to rebuff plenty of interest over the years.
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Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
The only way that works is if Rodgers has agreed to freeze him out. Can’t see that being the case at all.

More likely that’s the player’s “side” getting their defence out there.
Yes, two contrasting stories.

Ways and means to force a player out without dropping him from the team. Aiden McGeady is on record discussing the pressure put on him by Lennon to take the Spartak move (which he didnt want). Lennon with a calculator showing him signing on fees, having already spent the money and letting him know Celtic needed to accept the bid.

Lot of posters quick to exonerate the Celtic's board and a bandwagon has built up around that. I'm naturally uncomfortable with that given their track record.
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Maybe yon state aid fella that blogged a couple of weeks ago that we were skint was right after all...

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We aren't. Our accounts are there for anyone who can bothered to take 5 minutes to find. :thumbsup:
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4 Jul 2018, 08:45 AM
oneillsrevolution
4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
The only way that works is if Rodgers has agreed to freeze him out. Can’t see that being the case at all.

More likely that’s the player’s “side” getting their defence out there.
Yes, two contrasting stories.

Ways and means to force a player out without dropping him from the team. Aiden McGeady is on record discussing the pressure put on him by Lennon to take the Spartak move (which he didnt want). Lennon with a calculator showing him signing on fees, having already spent the money and letting him know Celtic needed to accept the bid.

Lot of posters quick to exonerate the Celtic's board and a bandwagon has built up around that. I'm naturally uncomfortable with that given their track record.
He has a six year contract. If he doesn't want to go, he doesn't need to.

If Celtic were behind it, their only option would then be to petulantly put him in the 21s - he'd have all the backing in the world and would be a PR disaster. Only way this makes sense is that he's instigated it, and rather than floof about, we're just dealing with it.
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4 Jul 2018, 09:23 AM
Looks like we've more Celtic Da's than we thought.
Some seriously Tonto posts.

I'll believe it when I see it, it makes no sense whatsoever for us to sell him.
CL money has gone up.
We've almost £40m or so in the bank, including the VVD & Armstrong money which wasn't included in the last financials.
We're going for 10IAR & have just done back to back trebles.
As much as we want to be seen as a stepping stone to Shangri-La, we won't attract the calibre of player required without a CL presence (even as cannonfodder).
We've been talking & building ourselves up to being a CL Club.
The manager loves KT.
KT loves the Club, the Fans & the Manager.

I can't believe we'd go against ALL of the above, just because Everton flash their pants at KT & Paddy Roberts or KT's agent tells him how little money he's on at Celtic.
None of this sounds plausible & as much as I trust BallBhoy's posts on the leaked team sheets, I think he's well wide of the mark here.
Bang on, totally agree.....Everything is hearsay. People here going on as if he has already gone!
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