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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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smudgethecat
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murphio
4 Jul 2018, 08:19 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 07:57 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 11:40 PM
Not a legend. A cult favourite perhaps.

Lustig, Forrest and obviously Brown are the only three in the current team who are anywhere near legend status.

James Forrest? :loel:
James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
I suppose when you have 60,000 people together, there are going to be thousands of dicks
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Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
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4 Jul 2018, 08:26 AM
Probably the last thing people want to think about but if it does happen what is the chances of the club replacing shirts? My wee lad has the new home kit with KT on the back on the away one ordered. He'll be gutted and I am not sure I can afford to replace two
SacKTheBoard ? :o
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4 Jul 2018, 08:19 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 07:57 AM
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3 Jul 2018, 11:40 PM
Not a legend. A cult favourite perhaps.

Lustig, Forrest and obviously Brown are the only three in the current team who are anywhere near legend status.

James Forrest? :loel:
James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Bullshampoo. Owes Celtic nothing. :lol:

Did Gerry Creaney or Forrest sign a six year deal and say they'd probably mibby stay forever, then go into the crowd with a megaphone at the end of the season, then engineer a move before the biggest games of the following season with what looks like relatively eff all warning? People wanted Forrest gone because he was inconsistent and thought we could do better - nothing else. Don't think anyone actually wants KT to go, so you're comparing apples and wheelbarras in your own Murphioey ways.

People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
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4 Jul 2018, 07:57 AM

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James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Bullshampoo. Owes Celtic nothing. :lol:

Did Gerry Creaney or Forrest sign a six year deal and say they'd probably mibby stay forever, then go into the crowd with a megaphone at the end of the season, then engineer a move before the biggest games of the following season with what looks like relatively eff all warning? People wanted Forrest gone because he was inconsistent and thought we could do better - nothing else. Don't think anyone actually wants KT to go, so you're comparing apples and wheelbarras in your own Murphioey ways.

People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
Engineer a move? Here I thought he had done nothing and was the subject of a bid that even the manager is talking about. Didn't know he was going around shopping himself, thanks for the info. 'Everton: Save my from my Celtic hell' :lol:
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4 Jul 2018, 08:28 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 01:33 AM
Juggling the maximising your profits and building a team is a serious issue at CP.

If we kept Forster, VvD, Vic and the likes we might be able to compete at CL level.

Vicious circle I'm afraid.
Look how Ajax have faired doing the same. :(
Weren't Ajax in a European final a couple of seasons ago
Indeed they were. They were woeful against Man Ure and didn't qualify for either the CL or EL the next season having lost qualifiers in both (one to Rosenberg whom we had just knock out :lol: )
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James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Bullshampoo. Owes Celtic nothing. :lol:

Did Gerry Creaney or Forrest sign a six year deal and say they'd probably mibby stay forever, then go into the crowd with a megaphone at the end of the season, then engineer a move before the biggest games of the following season with what looks like relatively eff all warning? People wanted Forrest gone because he was inconsistent and thought we could do better - nothing else. Don't think anyone actually wants KT to go, so you're comparing apples and wheelbarras in your own Murphioey ways.

People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
People are entitled to call him a wee dick on a forum. At the games it's counter-productive, undermines the player's confidence and essentially undermines the team.
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4 Jul 2018, 08:34 AM


People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
If you can honestly say you wouldn't do it if in that position then yes . Very few would turn down quadrupling your wages.
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I think it’s not only envitable but it’s the right move for Tierney.

Let’s look at VVD, most people at Celtic knew he could play at a very high level. However it’s very unlikely a top 6 or a top 4 side in the EPL are going to take a chance on one of our players direct. So he went to Southampton for 2-3 seasons and he then confirmed to England what we already knew and he signed for Liverpool. The money we make from the initial fee and any sell on clause is massive money for our club. The kind of money that allows us to sign Edouard and pay wages to multiple players at 20k per week.

Of course, as Celtic fans we want to see our best players stay and with Tierney being a bigger Tim than most, we all thought he may stay a season or 2 more than maybe an outsider would in the same scenario. But not many of us have had the chance to earn 15mill + after tax in 5 years (if figures quoted are correct). And not only money tbh, I am sure he seen his good pal play in a Champions League final last year and feels he can play at that level too.

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4 Jul 2018, 08:34 AM
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James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Bullshampoo. Owes Celtic nothing. :lol:

Did Gerry Creaney or Forrest sign a six year deal and say they'd probably mibby stay forever, then go into the crowd with a megaphone at the end of the season, then engineer a move before the biggest games of the following season with what looks like relatively eff all warning? People wanted Forrest gone because he was inconsistent and thought we could do better - nothing else. Don't think anyone actually wants KT to go, so you're comparing apples and wheelbarras in your own Murphioey ways.

People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
People are absolutely entitled to call him a wee dick. But don’t kid yourself on that Creaney, Forrest, and 99% of Celtic supporters wouldn’t make the same decision Tierney seems to have.
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4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
Unwillingly? Loads of folk have said the club want him to stay.
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4 Jul 2018, 08:41 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 08:34 AM
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4 Jul 2018, 08:19 AM

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Bullshampoo. Owes Celtic nothing. :lol:

Did Gerry Creaney or Forrest sign a six year deal and say they'd probably mibby stay forever, then go into the crowd with a megaphone at the end of the season, then engineer a move before the biggest games of the following season with what looks like relatively eff all warning? People wanted Forrest gone because he was inconsistent and thought we could do better - nothing else. Don't think anyone actually wants KT to go, so you're comparing apples and wheelbarras in your own Murphioey ways.

People are more than entitled to call him a wee dick.
People are absolutely entitled to call him a wee dick. But don’t kid yourself on that Creaney, Forrest, and 99% of Celtic supporters wouldn’t make the same decision Tierney seems to have.
Neither styled themselves as P O'Neill but.
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Oh well. Could have been a contender.

3 years from now he'll be remembered as a mere footnote alongside the likes of Ledley, Matthews and Mulgrew as a small part of the ten. :Bye:
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4 Jul 2018, 08:32 AM
Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
The only way that works is if Rodgers has agreed to freeze him out. Can’t see that being the case at all.

More likely that’s the player’s “side” getting their defence out there.
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Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
That's rubbish.
If Tierney doesn't want to go, he can't be forced.
Same scenario as Jimmy McGrory back in the 1930's.
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Story from those who know him in Wishy is Celtic are holding out for £30m - if met, he's been told he's going (unwillingly).
That's rubbish.
If Tierney doesn't want to go, he can't be forced.
Same scenario as Jimmy McGrory back in the 1930's.
Tierney of Everton must sound better. :lol:
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Not a legend. A cult favourite perhaps.

Lustig, Forrest and obviously Brown are the only three in the current team who are anywhere near legend status.

James Forrest? :loel:
James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Gerry Creaney deserved everything he got. Macari put him wide right and he didn't want to play there so didn't try a fecking leg.
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People are absolutely entitled to call him a wee dick. But don’t kid yourself on that Creaney, Forrest, and 99% of Celtic supporters wouldn’t make the same decision Tierney seems to have.
Neither styled themselves as P O'Neill but.
Nothing to do with “styling” himself, he was being a genuine Celtic supporter the same way many of us would be in that situation. It still doesn’t mean we wouldn’t leave if offered the deal he seems to have been. He wasn’t lying to anyone when behaving like a supporter would.

He was/is a Celtic supporter. He’s a professional footballer. Fortunately for him he was able to combine the two. Then he was seemingly made an offer where he’d have to separate the two. If he chooses to go then it doesn’t mean he was faking it.

It’s professional football stuff, why the eff do people continue to be surprised by this. Tierney is a normal guy, same as any of us. We can all pontificate in here that we would play for Celtic forever, but none of us have an effin clue what that decision is like. And given the choice that these normal guys do make when actually in the situation, there’s no reason to think we’d all be any different.
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An avalanche of emotional posts since Ballbhoy's revelation last night saying it was nearly a done deal. I think that highlights how much we like Kieran Tierney the Celtic player whether people will admit it or not. If he goes then he should go with best wishes from us all.


I'll be gutted if he does leave and more than a tad worried about our defensive line ahead of the biggest champions league qualifying challenge to date.


One question though.. is this definitely happening I.e are more than one ITK poster saying its done or can I go back to hoping he's not leaving for a couple of seasons yet?


I expected him to leave in the next few years but not to a team like Everton :(
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4 Jul 2018, 08:19 AM
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Not a legend. A cult favourite perhaps.

Lustig, Forrest and obviously Brown are the only three in the current team who are anywhere near legend status.

James Forrest? :loel:
James Forrest is a perfect case in point as to why KT should not give two flying effs what any of his former fanclub thinks. There was a significant, vocal section of the Celtic support who were hounding James Forrest out of the club. I remember Gerry Creaney - another Celtic boy who came through the ranks - getting absolutely slaughterered by his own fans. If this loyalty thing was a two way street and coming through the ranks as a suppporter afforded you some kind of protection then I could understand the ire. But it doesn't. Half a dozen bad games and he'd be told to GTF. Tierney owes us zero.
Ever the contrarian.

I suppose if Sevco ever got taken over by an oligarch or sheikh and in two years were the only club in Scotland to be able to pay the wages of a homesick KT, then it's just a business, a short career, and you have to see it from these guys point of view, as they're professionals first and foremost.

As others have said, there are ways to go about things. This way leaves Celtic in the shampoo as out CL qualification campaign gets underway. Although that in itself is not solely his fault as I'm sure this isn't a bolt from the blue to the club.

Other clubs refuse to sell until they line someone up so we should be the same in this instance. If PL says that he expects to do most of our business late in the window, and he knew this was in the offing, serious questions need to be asked about a strategy that is gambling needlessly with out CL prospects.

Tierney could quite easily have been told January is when he'll get his move. But everyone seems to have just rolled over at the first concrete interest from an English club.

And Aye, Everton are a good club with great pedigree, spomen about as one of the Big 5 in the 80s. But in EPL terms they've been little more than make weights and even their own fans wouldn't refer to them as such. Their fans expectations have been managed downward even more successfully than our own it would seem if their forums are anything to go by.
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