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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,603 Views)
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EPL is hyped, two games a season against Huddersfield, Leicester,Watford, Wolves n whatever dross got promoted.
A big ambitious club? Turn it up. Everton are not in the same class as Celtic,
Was at Goodison last year for their game vrs Man City, piss poor team n piss poor atmosphere.
Only thing that will be better is the bank balance.
Look at it the other way

Do you think if Celtic were in for Gylfi Sigurdsson he'd leave Everton to play in the Scottish Premiership ?

Aye if we paid him more. It's really all about the coin.

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BTW... the only mistake Charlie Nicholas made was choosing Arsenal over Liverpool. Had he went to Anfield I think his career path would have taken a completely different trajectory. Leaving Celtic was not his mistake; going to Highbury was.
And yet you're saying that Tierney going to a club that has made the top four once in about 20 years is a decent move.

Anyway Nicholas' wage demands at Celtic weren't exactly outrageous. But the board wanted to pocket the fee for him. Not the first time that a player who didn't really want to go was flogged. We also lost Billy McNeill that summer and it wouldn't have been his choice to leave all this h's being equal.
There is a vast difference between the English Premier League 2018 and the First Division circa 1983. Light years in every respect, in fact. And putting the league to one side for a moment, Everton are not some tin pot club who just appeared on the scene thanks to Sky's TV revenue. They are a big club with a good history - and they have ambitions for growth, they have spent fortunes over the past couple of seasons. If Man U decide to enter the bidding for Tierney then of course he should go there. But if Everton is his only realistic option at this stage (if he does want to go) then he is joining a bigger, more ambitious club than Van Dijk, Wanyama or Forster did.
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Real shocker - knew he would go but always thought we would hang on to him for longer.

Maybe him switching agents after signing a bumper deal, was due to another agent telling him it was actually a shampoo deal.

Great potential, can't blame the lad, wish him all the best

The fee better be fully invested
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BTW... the only mistake Charlie Nicholas made was choosing Arsenal over Liverpool. Had he went to Anfield I think his career path would have taken a completely different trajectory. Leaving Celtic was not his mistake; going to Highbury was.
And yet you're saying that Tierney going to a club that has made the top four once in about 20 years is a decent move.

Anyway Nicholas' wage demands at Celtic weren't exactly outrageous. But the board wanted to pocket the fee for him. Not the first time that a player who didn't really want to go was flogged. We also lost Billy McNeill that summer and it wouldn't have been his choice to leave all this h's being equal.
There is a vast difference between the English Premier League 2018 and the First Division circa 1983. Light years in every respect, in fact. And putting the league to one side for a moment, Everton are not some tin pot club who just appeared on the scene thanks to Sky's TV revenue. They are a big club with a good history - and they have ambitions for growth, they have spent fortunes over the past couple of seasons. If Man U decide to enter the bidding for Tierney then of course he should go there. But if Everton is his only realistic option at this stage (if he does want to go) then he is joining a bigger, more ambitious club than Van Dijk, Wanyama or Forster did.
Given Southampton's history I don't think Everton are more ambitious. Certainly not in the last few seasons. Bigger club, no doubt but Southampton have spent a number of years reaching for the kind of player and success fast beyond their recent past.

Everton haven't had much success at all unless you consider staying in the EPL consistently in a slot somewhere from 15th to seventh with the one or two time soiree up to fourth.

The epitome of reaching for the stars with short arms.
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I feel like I've been stabbed in the back. Angry and gutted. :(
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4 Jul 2018, 12:04 AM

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EPL is hyped, two games a season against Huddersfield, Leicester,Watford, Wolves n whatever dross got promoted.
A big ambitious club? Turn it up. Everton are not in the same class as Celtic,
Was at Goodison last year for their game vrs Man City, piss poor team n piss poor atmosphere.
Only thing that will be better is the bank balance.
Look at it the other way

Do you think if Celtic were in for Gylfi Sigurdsson he'd leave Everton to play in the Scottish Premiership ?
Pretty sure players have joined us from the EPL, Paddy Roberts? Depends on a lot of factors, don't think your point stands up.
My point was that he will face some pretty aversge teams in EPL, he won't play against big clubs every week.
As for Everton being a big ambitious club? No having that.
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4 Jul 2018, 12:37 AM
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There is a vast difference between the English Premier League 2018 and the First Division circa 1983. Light years in every respect, in fact. And putting the league to one side for a moment, Everton are not some tin pot club who just appeared on the scene thanks to Sky's TV revenue. They are a big club with a good history - and they have ambitions for growth, they have spent fortunes over the past couple of seasons. If Man U decide to enter the bidding for Tierney then of course he should go there. But if Everton is his only realistic option at this stage (if he does want to go) then he is joining a bigger, more ambitious club than Van Dijk, Wanyama or Forster did.
Given Southampton's history I don't think Everton are more ambitious. Certainly not in the last few seasons. Bigger club, no doubt but Southampton have spent a number of years reaching for the kind of player and success fast beyond their recent past.

Everton haven't had much success at all unless you consider staying in the EPL consistently in a slot somewhere from 15th to seventh with the one or two time soiree up to fourth.

The epitome of reaching for the stars with short arms.
'The epitome of reaching for the stars with short arms.'

sums it up.
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If the figures are anything remotely true, and certainly possible, KT could be on £100k+ per week - thats a seriously life changing income and rarely will anyone turn that down.
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KT playing in blue will be a sight to see :gavbhoy:
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If the figures are anything remotely true, and certainly possible, KT could be on £100k+ per week - thats a seriously life changing income and rarely will anyone turn that down.
Twenty grand a week is life changing.
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If the figures are anything remotely true, and certainly possible, KT could be on £100k+ per week - thats a seriously life changing income and rarely will anyone turn that down.
Twenty grand a week is life changing.
20 grand a week, playing for a Celtic side that has its sights on 10 in a row, off the back off a double treble, playing under a manager who could do some serious stuff with us. That is a dream for every single Celtic man out there. Tierney probably isn't that much of a fan, thumps the badge, shouts in megaphones, jumps ship at the first opportunity.

Every Celtic supporter knows exactly what 10 in a row means, none of us would turn that down.
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If the figures are anything remotely true, and certainly possible, KT could be on £100k+ per week - thats a seriously life changing income and rarely will anyone turn that down.
Twenty grand a week is life changing.
20 grand a week, playing for a Celtic side that has its sights on 10 in a row, off the back off a double treble, playing under a manager who could do some serious stuff with us. That is a dream for every single Celtic man out there. Tierney probably isn't that much of a fan, thumps the badge, shouts in megaphones, jumps ship at the first opportunity.

Every Celtic supporter know exactly what 10 in a row means, none of us would turn that down.
If he’s not a Celtic fan, what is he? Wait!! Is he a Celtic da?!
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20 grand a week, playing for a Celtic side that has its sights on 10 in a row, off the back off a double treble, playing under a manager who could do some serious stuff with us. That is a dream for every single Celtic man out there. Tierney probably isn't that much of a fan, thumps the badge, shouts in megaphones, jumps ship at the first opportunity.

Every Celtic supporter know exactly what 10 in a row means, none of us would turn that down.
If he’s not a Celtic fan, what is he? Wait!! Is he a Celtic da?!
Celtic das would play for nuthin.
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There's something not right about this. If he was agreeing a deal with Everton why was he playing a meaningless friendly for Celtic?

All noises point to him leaving just now but I feel like it's being pushed forward a bit by speculation.
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Some of the reactions on here are hilarious. Stabbed in the back is a particular highlight.

I'll be gutted to lose Tierney, but if we're talking about a fee of 25+ million then I understand. This is our model. We constantly whine and moan about the likes of Porto and Ajax etc getting top dollar for their players yet when we do exactly what we should be, all of a sudden the word "traitor" and "greed" start getting chucked about.

This is the model. This is setting the precedent. This is what Celtic should be doing. Next it will be Dembele, or Eduoard, or Ntcham...or whoever. This is how it is. Until the landscape of football undergoes a drastic change and we can afford to turn down cash like this for our players then this is what we will do. Yes it's extra gutting because he's a proper celtic man and a top player but this is where we are.
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WTF........Is he gone, going......is it a definite maybe??

Or speculation?
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4 Jul 2018, 12:55 AM
Some of the reactions on here are hilarious. Stabbed in the back is a particular highlight.

I'll be gutted to lose Tierney, but if we're talking about a fee of 25+ million then I understand. This is our model. We constantly whine and moan about the likes of Porto and Ajax etc getting top dollar for their players yet when we do exactly what we should be, all of a sudden the word "traitor" and "greed" start getting chucked about.

This is the model. This is setting the precedent. This is what Celtic should be doing. Next it will be Dembele, or Eduoard, or Ntcham...or whoever. This is how it is. Until the landscape of football undergoes a drastic change and we can afford to turn down cash like this for our players then this is what we will do. Yes it's extra gutting because he's a proper celtic man and a top player but this is where we are.
We can afford to turn down £25m, especially when it's for a player who has repeatedly said he has no intention of leaving. It's not as if we are teetering on the verge of administration.
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Some of the reactions on here are hilarious. Stabbed in the back is a particular highlight.

I'll be gutted to lose Tierney, but if we're talking about a fee of 25+ million then I understand. This is our model. We constantly whine and moan about the likes of Porto and Ajax etc getting top dollar for their players yet when we do exactly what we should be, all of a sudden the word "traitor" and "greed" start getting chucked about.

This is the model. This is setting the precedent. This is what Celtic should be doing. Next it will be Dembele, or Eduoard, or Ntcham...or whoever. This is how it is. Until the landscape of football undergoes a drastic change and we can afford to turn down cash like this for our players then this is what we will do. Yes it's extra gutting because he's a proper celtic man and a top player but this is where we are.
People are gutted he’s willing to leave for Everton when he’s 21, they’re shampooe and we’re in the Champions League and looking to go for ten in a row. If it was a bigger club in a few years time, then it seems fair enough. The fee isn’t really the issue.
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BTW... the only mistake Charlie Nicholas made was choosing Arsenal over Liverpool. Had he went to Anfield I think his career path would have taken a completely different trajectory. Leaving Celtic was not his mistake; going to Highbury was.
And yet you're saying that Tierney going to a club that has made the top four once in about 20 years is a decent move.

Anyway Nicholas' wage demands at Celtic weren't exactly outrageous. But the board wanted to pocket the fee for him. Not the first time that a player who didn't really want to go was flogged. We also lost Billy McNeill that summer and it wouldn't have been his choice to leave all this h's being equal.
There is a vast difference between the English Premier League 2018 and the First Division circa 1983. Light years in every respect, in fact. And putting the league to one side for a moment, Everton are not some tin pot club who just appeared on the scene thanks to Sky's TV revenue. They are a big club with a good history - and they have ambitions for growth, they have spent fortunes over the past couple of seasons. If Man U decide to enter the bidding for Tierney then of course he should go there. But if Everton is his only realistic option at this stage (if he does want to go) then he is joining a bigger, more ambitious club than Van Dijk, Wanyama or Forster did.
he's also going to be in andy robertson's shadow his entire team there playing for the second team in a city who haven't even won a derby game for several years nevermind a trophy.

if he had a brain in his head he'd sit and wait.

on a personal level KT still lives with his mum and dad and goes for a kick about with his m8's... i'm not sure moving away right now makes sense for him as the person which is why i thought 25k at celtic, grow as a player and as person, 24 y/o you head south.

everton have a good history but aren't a big club anymore; they certainly aren't seen as one in scotland and to be honest this is all about money but to jump at first decent offer from his and his agent rather than waiting for the right club and time is just short-sighted.
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Some of the reactions on here are hilarious. Stabbed in the back is a particular highlight.

I'll be gutted to lose Tierney, but if we're talking about a fee of 25+ million then I understand. This is our model. We constantly whine and moan about the likes of Porto and Ajax etc getting top dollar for their players yet when we do exactly what we should be, all of a sudden the word "traitor" and "greed" start getting chucked about.

This is the model. This is setting the precedent. This is what Celtic should be doing. Next it will be Dembele, or Eduoard, or Ntcham...or whoever. This is how it is. Until the landscape of football undergoes a drastic change and we can afford to turn down cash like this for our players then this is what we will do. Yes it's extra gutting because he's a proper celtic man and a top player but this is where we are.
People are gutted he’s willing to leave for Everton when he’s 21, they’re shampooe and we’re in the Champions League and looking to go for ten in a row. If it was a bigger club in a few years time, then it seems fair enough. The fee isn’t really the issue.
and the fact he gave it all the celtic man stuff.
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