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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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2 Jul 2018, 12:41 PM

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After the CL Final, a lot of the narrative in the media was that Liverpool had to improve in three positions to properly kick on and challenge for the title. Those positions being GK, LB and CM.

There was also a lot of narrative last season about how brilliant Robertson had been and that they have finally solved their LB issues...
There was. So I guess that proves the point that it's not quite as cut and dry as suggested above (not by you). Certainly not "no-one in the world could replace him" or whatever it was.

He's a very good player. Is there better out there to improve them? Of course there is.
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2 Jul 2018, 02:12 PM
If KT wants to earn a bigger salary, it is his business, and nobody else's. This 'why he can't live on x-amount per week?' is, quite frankly, daft.

I agree. People suggesting KT should be happy with his lot in the same thread where others are ridiculing the notion of Celtic accepting anything less than £25m! and discussing market value. The club are right to maximize what they can get and the player should be looking to get paid what others of equal ability receive.
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I've been trying to wrap my head around KT contemplating moving to Everton. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Wait.

Are Everton linked with Paddy too?
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2 Jul 2018, 11:56 AM

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Nonsense.

On holiday but this deserves commentary. Robertson is a good player granted.

Tierney is a much better tackler and positional strength is better. KT outran Sterling im both games especially at Parkhead so unsure how you have came to that one.

Not much between them maybe but KT and his all round games is stonger.
Wouldn’t have been hard to outrun Sterling at the Etihad considering he never played in the match and City had effectively a second string XI out.
Sorry mr.celtic

Post was mainly his goal and general pace in first game.
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2 Jul 2018, 03:53 PM
I've been trying to wrap my head around KT contemplating moving to Everton. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Wait.

Are Everton linked with Paddy too?
Actually, we're signing Paddy on a five year contract, which means both players will be here for 10 IAR. Way-hey!
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2 Jul 2018, 03:53 PM
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2 Jul 2018, 02:12 PM
If KT wants to earn a bigger salary, it is his business, and nobody else's. This 'why he can't live on x-amount per week?' is, quite frankly, daft.

I agree. People suggesting KT should be happy with his lot in the same thread where others are ridiculing the notion of Celtic accepting anything less than £25m! and discussing market value. The club are right to maximize what they can get and the player should be looking to get paid what others of equal ability receive.
We should thank him then for signing the contract extension as that's what will have enhanced his price somewhat.

I have no idea what KT gets in wages but he must be in our top bracket now so to be immediately wanting more seems a tad weird.
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2 Jul 2018, 12:41 PM
kt will be here for ten in a row he loves it at celtic
Interesting. Obviously you have a good inside track there, so that's good to hear.

It does fly in the face of other posters with an inside track with other sources at the club who bank the cheques,though.

Sale and loan back 2 years from now then :naught:
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If KT wants to earn a bigger salary, it is his business, and nobody else's. This 'why he can't live on x-amount per week?' is, quite frankly, daft.

I agree. People suggesting KT should be happy with his lot in the same thread where others are ridiculing the notion of Celtic accepting anything less than £25m! and discussing market value. The club are right to maximize what they can get and the player should be looking to get paid what others of equal ability receive.
We should thank him then for signing the contract extension as that's what will have enhanced his price somewhat.

I have no idea what KT gets in wages but he must be in our top bracket now so to be immediately wanting more seems a tad weird.
I was just commenting on the notion that at some point a player should consider that he is earning enough and then not look to make more. Absurd and naive.
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I've been trying to wrap my head around KT contemplating moving to Everton. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Wait.

Are Everton linked with Paddy too?
Actually, we're signing Paddy on a five year contract, which means both players will be here for 10 IAR. Way-hey!
If we sign Paddy I'll eat my .....

Actually, I'm not gonna go there!
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FWIW I think this whole Everton stuff has been blown out of proportion. Weren't Man U, Arsenal, Atletico & Bayern all looking at him previously? What's changed now?

Good players that perform at a high level within our league are going to get linked to bigger and better leagues.

Everton may be interested and may be ready to bid but so far they haven't. BR's comments have been analysed to death on here, but for me they are similar to his comments on knowing Dembele isn't going to be here forever. Both are fantastic talents and both will leave at some point and the club will receive good money for them both.

I just don't see the KT, Everton link as serious as others do. If they open the bidding at 25m, then its a different story, but for now its just paper talk and should be treated as such.
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2 Jul 2018, 01:39 PM
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Which is exactly why he won't be moving to Everton
The exact same conversation took place on here when Southampton came in for Wanyama and VVD.

The fact is it's a stepping stone for the player to demonstrate they can cut it in the EPL - once they have then a top 4 club will come in for them.

Tierney's agent will have told him that as long as he performs as we all think he can, his stay at Everton will probably only be a couple of years.

Celtic are used as a stepping stone by some of the foreign players we buy but I wouldn’t imagine Tierney would use celtic as a stepping stone.Of course the epl has more appeal than the spl but the main appeal is the money.When there wasn’t a great gap in the finances between us and the epl under MON we could attract players from the epl and larsson knocked back Man U to stay with us which wouldn’t happen today.
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FWIW I think this whole Everton stuff has been blown out of proportion. Weren't Man U, Arsenal, Atletico & Bayern all looking at him previously? What's changed now?

Good players that perform at a high level within our league are going to get linked to bigger and better leagues.

Everton may be interested and may be ready to bid but so far they haven't. BR's comments have been analysed to death on here, but for me they are similar to his comments on knowing Dembele isn't going to be here forever. Both are fantastic talents and both will leave at some point and the club will receive good money for them both.

I just don't see the KT, Everton link as serious as others do. If they open the bidding at 25m, then its a different story, but for now its just paper talk and should be treated as such.
Think most folk would have treated it as such but at least 3 posters, remy, sevilliano, bryan67 have hinted that they have sources that indicate there has been some notion towards a move, not from the club or agents but from the player or certainly his family putting pressure on it. Not clear if their sources are family or club sources though.

Thats what`s fuelled the debates.
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He`ll stay..at least for another year. Has plenty of time to earn his millions
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We should thank him then for signing the contract extension as that's what will have enhanced his price somewhat.

I have no idea what KT gets in wages but he must be in our top bracket now so to be immediately wanting more seems a tad weird.
I was just commenting on the notion that at some point a player should consider that he is earning enough and then not look to make more. Absurd and naive.
Not that absurd if he signs a six year deal 8 months ago with same agents he's with now. You would have to imagine he was happy with it.

Maybe Edouard has got a belter of a deal and it's noises him up, given their respective appearances.

Lot of possibilities I guess. Countering that, apparently there were whispers behind the scenes that this was possible a few months back, so who knows.

Edit to add, that doesn't mean a player would be planning to stick around for six years.
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The exact same conversation took place on here when Southampton came in for Wanyama and VVD.

The fact is it's a stepping stone for the player to demonstrate they can cut it in the EPL - once they have then a top 4 club will come in for them.

Tierney's agent will have told him that as long as he performs as we all think he can, his stay at Everton will probably only be a couple of years.

Celtic are used as a stepping stone by some of the foreign players we buy but I wouldn’t imagine Tierney would use celtic as a stepping stone.Of course the epl has more appeal than the spl but the main appeal is the money.When there wasn’t a great gap in the finances between us and the epl under MON we could attract players from the epl and larsson knocked back Man U to stay with us which wouldn’t happen today.
Larsson never knocked back Man Utd.
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If KT does want to leave, then I don't care who he signs for as long as its £30m or upwards.
Be that Brighton or Man Utd I don't care.
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Celtic are used as a stepping stone by some of the foreign players we buy but I wouldn’t imagine Tierney would use celtic as a stepping stone.Of course the epl has more appeal than the spl but the main appeal is the money.When there wasn’t a great gap in the finances between us and the epl under MON we could attract players from the epl and larsson knocked back Man U to stay with us which wouldn’t happen today.
Larsson never knocked back Man Utd.
Larsson says he did.
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I was just commenting on the notion that at some point a player should consider that he is earning enough and then not look to make more. Absurd and naive.
Not that absurd if he signs a six year deal 8 months ago with same agents he's with now. You would have to imagine he was happy with it.

Maybe Edouard has got a belter of a deal and it's noises him up, given their respective appearances.

Lot of possibilities I guess. Countering that, apparently there were whispers behind the scenes that this was possible a few months back, so who knows.
The absurd notion is not that a player would see out a contract but that there comes a point when they think to themselves 'right i don't want to double/treble/quadruple my wages, I am earning enough'.

And signing a long term deal is something that a fan of the club might do in order to maximise what Celtic can get for him. A player may agree to it with the understanding that the club won't stand in his way if a big offer comes in. Another player might let a contract run down making a bid for them more attractive but with the club having less bargaining power.
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Larsson never knocked back Man Utd.
Larsson says he did.
Ferguson says he didn't.

""Ferguson said: “I could have signed him earlier. I was ready to make the bid when he was at Celtic but Dermot Desmond, Celtic’s majority shareholder, rang me and said, ‘You’ve let me down, Alex, you’ve got tons of players, we need him.’”"
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