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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,634 Views)
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paddysmum
2 Jul 2018, 11:11 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 11:09 AM
Why is he so unhappy and desperate to move all a sudden?
do we actually know he’s unhappy?
No, but the gutter hacks will take that line next.
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Luca
2 Jul 2018, 11:22 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 11:09 AM
Why is he so unhappy and desperate to move all a sudden?
He has S.A.D but in reverse.
Celtic DAS at it again.
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2 Jul 2018, 11:21 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 11:19 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 11:12 AM
Mega move of 25m upwards and we'd be crazy not to accept and let player speak to whoever.

Plus a 10-20% sell on and we're laughing. This has a definite King Kenny feel to it. Kenny went for a British record fee, KT would go for a Scotland to England record fee. We could end up making 30-40 million out of this and KT would be in the 60-70k per week bracket just to start off with.

It's a no-brainer for all concerned.
There is the slight issue of being able to replace him adequately so I'm not sure it's a no-brainer at all. Knowing Celtic as we do, any replacement that will be brought in will be on the lowest possible outlay, or we'll end up moving someone like Hayes back there. No matter how you look at it, we'll be a weaker team without KT.

Is there's much point in banking another £30 million while the team suffers as a consequence?
The same Celtic that have spent a record breaking fee on a 20 year old, purchased Ntcham for up to £6m, gave Dembele a great wage package etc? :lol:

Things have changed. If Tierney goes for £25m money will be spent replacing him and upgrading other areas of the team.
We had £30million in the bank with the £31million. We had £18million in 2016. We are banking more money and keeping it.

We have needed top quality defenders all that time. Results in Europe show this. We can't keep getting skelped in Europe the way we did, or gambling on qualification playing bit-part midfielders in defence and so on.

So if we've had money and didn't spend it on the most glaring part of the team, why would we suddenly spend even more money on a number of players all of a sudden? We'll try to cobble out way through it and then scramble to sign people as if we didn't know the transfer window had a closing date.

That's not to say we've not done some great work with the likes of Rogic, Dembele, Edouard, Ntcham etc. It just means that having the money from KT's departure is absolutely no guarantee that we'll do anything with it, glaring hole in the team or not.
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With the CL qualifiers ending after the PL Transfer window, we simply can’t afford to sell him. If he’s desperate to go that much, agree to let him go in January with our best wishes
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2 Jul 2018, 09:44 AM

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What part are people not getting? It's not Celtic trying to get rid.


Who is it then? The player? The agent?
The press.
You'll be telling us Stuart Armstrong is still a Celtic player, just because the press reported his transfer.
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Jungle
2 Jul 2018, 11:36 AM
paddysmum
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nails
2 Jul 2018, 11:09 AM
Why is he so unhappy and desperate to move all a sudden?
do we actually know he’s unhappy?
No, but the gutter hacks will take that line next.
You're fake news.
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Pages upon pages of angst here over something which may or may not happen this summer... next summer... the January after etc...

Relax and enjoy the warm weather (and the World Cup) till we can get some real football to get exercised about.
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2 Jul 2018, 11:35 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 11:05 AM

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I don't think he's better than Andy Robertson.
any reason why?

i'll guess you see a damn sight more of KT than you do AR. Do you see KT's flaws and on highlights of Andy Robertson on the telly? like most of us I guess.

you'll be telling me Sandy Jardine was better than Danny McGrain next :)
Not at all. Andy Robertson is more composed, has better control and delivers a better cross, pass. Robertson is quicker and more dynamic than KT.

However, the reason KT is moved in the national team is because he is more flexible about where he can play. Robertson is the better left back, in my opinion.
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Feck me this Robertson lad sounds like Maldini.

One poorish season at Liverpool and they'll be screaming for an Italian or Brazilian full back and Robertson will be going to Everton or Leicester. Still on mega bucks though.
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any reason why?

i'll guess you see a damn sight more of KT than you do AR. Do you see KT's flaws and on highlights of Andy Robertson on the telly? like most of us I guess.

you'll be telling me Sandy Jardine was better than Danny McGrain next :)
Not at all. Andy Robertson is more composed, has better control and delivers a better cross, pass. Robertson is quicker and more dynamic than KT.

However, the reason KT is moved in the national team is because he is more flexible about where he can play. Robertson is the better left back, in my opinion.
Andy Robertson is a far poorer defender though and Tierney isn't at the top level yet.
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Eh, No you didn't.

We totally rebuilt in Lennon's first year and had no European football after August. How much do you think that cost us ? We won a Scottish Cup that season. How many players do you think we'd need to sell if that happened next season ?
If you can’t see the McGeady cash strengthened Celtic and led to 2012 I can’t be arsed explaining it to you. I bid you a good Monday.
The rebuild job you seem to think was a masterclass came at a cost - something you are totally ignoring. If we were not to have European football beyond August, how do you think we are going to pay for various players that we now have on £35K plus ? If you can't see that then by all means put me on ignore
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Not at all. Andy Robertson is more composed, has better control and delivers a better cross, pass. Robertson is quicker and more dynamic than KT.

However, the reason KT is moved in the national team is because he is more flexible about where he can play. Robertson is the better left back, in my opinion.
Andy Robertson is a far poorer defender though and Tierney isn't at the top level yet.
But would KT displace Andy Robertson if he were to go to Liverpool tomorrow?

I don't think so.
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The press.
You'll be telling us Stuart Armstrong is still a Celtic player, just because the press reported his transfer.
No, Like others I don't believe half of what is reported as real, particularly when it comes to Scottish football.

Leaks, real movements, real news and even the acknowledged hunch, you know when a journalist or reporter state that it’s an opinion, I can accept.
If folk can’t see the blatant agendas some media outlets and hacks, they’re not journalists or even reporters, pedal then they deserves BBC Scotland , The Record, The Sun and Pravda.
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any reason why?

i'll guess you see a damn sight more of KT than you do AR. Do you see KT's flaws and on highlights of Andy Robertson on the telly? like most of us I guess.

you'll be telling me Sandy Jardine was better than Danny McGrain next :)
Not at all. Andy Robertson is more composed, has better control and delivers a better cross, pass. Robertson is quicker and more dynamic than KT.

However, the reason KT is moved in the national team is because he is more flexible about where he can play. Robertson is the better left back, in my opinion.
Nonsense.

On holiday but this deserves commentary. Robertson is a good player granted.

Tierney is a much better tackler and positional strength is better. KT outran Sterling im both games especially at Parkhead so unsure how you have came to that one.

Not much between them maybe but KT and his all round games is stonger.
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Andy Robertson is a far poorer defender though and Tierney isn't at the top level yet.
But would KT displace Andy Robertson if he were to go to Liverpool tomorrow?

I don't think so.
No one would in world football do that at the moment.
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The same Celtic that have spent a record breaking fee on a 20 year old, purchased Ntcham for up to £6m, gave Dembele a great wage package etc? :lol:

Things have changed. If Tierney goes for £25m money will be spent replacing him and upgrading other areas of the team.
We had £30million in the bank with the £31million. We had £18million in 2016. We are banking more money and keeping it.

We have needed top quality defenders all that time. Results in Europe show this. We can't keep getting skelped in Europe the way we did, or gambling on qualification playing bit-part midfielders in defence and so on.

So if we've had money and didn't spend it on the most glaring part of the team, why would we suddenly spend even more money on a number of players all of a sudden? We'll try to cobble out way through it and then scramble to sign people as if we didn't know the transfer window had a closing date.

That's not to say we've not done some great work with the likes of Rogic, Dembele, Edouard, Ntcham etc. It just means that having the money from KT's departure is absolutely no guarantee that we'll do anything with it, glaring hole in the team or not.
I'd say this summer is the first summer where we are in a position to go and spend the type of money people think we should have been spending for the last 5 years. The money we've spent since Rodgers came in has been fine - there is no indication we are unwilling to spend what we have. It's just an outdated opinion that we are tight with our cash. Rodgers has given most of our players wage increases whilst spending £2.8m on Kouassi, £4m+ on Ntcham, £3m+ on Sinclair, £6m+ on Edouard etc.

Last summer Boyata finished the season in great form and Simunovic was worth around £10m to most people. We were in a position where most of us probably thought that if both of them were fit we wouldn't have been looking at a CB as a top priority. Now injuries and a fall off in form this season is undeniable and I'd say we should now actively be looking but it wasn't 'glaringly obvious' that we needed a CB last summer. The only obvious thing was that they were injured and we gambled we'd get through without panic buying a £3-5m defender - and it worked.
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But would KT displace Andy Robertson if he were to go to Liverpool tomorrow?

I don't think so.
No one would in world football do that at the moment.
Marcelo would.

Hernandez would.

Jordi Alba would.

Felipe Luis would.

etc.

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But would KT displace Andy Robertson if he were to go to Liverpool tomorrow?

I don't think so.
No one would in world football do that at the moment.
So Everton and Tottenham Hotspur are stunned by Tierney's apparent £50m release clause.
GIRUT.



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You'll be telling us Stuart Armstrong is still a Celtic player, just because the press reported his transfer.
No, Like others I don't believe half of what is reported as real, particularly when it comes to Scottish football.

Leaks, real movements, real news and even the acknowledged hunch, you know when a journalist or reporter state that it’s an opinion, I can accept.
If folk can’t see the blatant agendas some media outlets and hacks, they’re not journalists or even reporters, pedal then they deserves BBC Scotland , The Record, The Sun and Pravda.
Do you believe the Tierney stuff is a fabrication of the media? :ponder:
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No one would in world football do that at the moment.
Marcelo would.

Hernandez would.

Jordi Alba would.

Felipe Luis would.

etc.

The point was Tierney is inferior to Roberston... he is not.

My point after the season he has had Liverpool would not be looking to replace him and rightly so. Klopp rates him so ge wont be getting replaced this summer.
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