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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,637 Views)
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Are you an EPL fanboy?
I never mentioned the EPL.
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If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
If he was playing in England...

There's your flaw right there.
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet.
Not sure if that’s a huge achievement, to be honest.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:06 AM
fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet.
Not sure if that’s a huge achievement, to be honest.
:lmao:

Literally.
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet.
Not sure if that’s a huge achievement, to be honest.
:lmao:

Literally.
He's factually correct.

Unless of course you are mid air, or swimming.
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Bhoy_Barker
2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
Players in weaker leagues are valued differently to players in stronger leagues. We wouldn't pay £50k for Seamus Coleman back in the day, and if Tierney's exact clone was playing in the League of Ireland you wouldn't be harping on about him being worth £40mil
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remy mcswain
2 Jul 2018, 09:06 AM
Bhoy_Barker
2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
If he was playing in England...

There's your flaw right there.
KT has proved his worth in the SPL. He has played against the best players in Europe and, at his age has showed amazing composure, maturity and attitude. If a sale is on then thats what is for sale. Everton? -no Champions League games, a club who thought big Sam was the answer to something at one time.Everton is like many clubs in the Premiership, mediocre but awash with EPL zillions.
KT might thrive there but will win no trophies but willl earn a huge wedge while Everton wait for him to mature then move him on. At £25million he will probably double his price if he stays on course.
Virgil was sold for 14 mill to southampton for £14M and in less than 3 years to Liverpool for £80M
If I were Celtic i would announce a 'no less than £45 million for KT' to the press and leave it at that. If clubs like Real Madrid, barca, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd, clubs of real pedigree come calling then Keiran can choose the best offer for his development as a footballer, the fee will not be a problem for any of them and his wages would be roughly the same at any of them.
We will have to let him go eventually, he is not a one season wonder and Celtic do not need to sell him
So whats the problem?
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2 Jul 2018, 09:20 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
Players in weaker leagues are valued differently to players in stronger leagues. We wouldn't pay £50k for Seamus Coleman back in the day, and if Tierney's exact clone was playing in the League of Ireland you wouldn't be harping on about him being worth £40mil
Well, maybe. Man Utd signed Ronaldo after he'd played 25 games for Sporting Lisbon, making him the world's most expensive teenager. They'd never signed a Portuguese player before.

If you want the player, you pay the price. If Karamoko Dembele is as good as he looks, then clubs won't be wondering what league he's playing in right now. They're buying him for what league he'll end up in.

Same with Tierney or everyone else. Celtic hold the aces here. If Tierney is genuinely looking for a move, they should make it clear that's the position and what's their position in regards to this (ie he has a six-year deal. One that covers the player in the event of injury I'm sure, so it works both ways). We don't need to sell, but if he's going to become a disruptive influence, let the world know that he's for sale and take it from there.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:29 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
If he was playing in England...

There's your flaw right there.
KT has proved his worth in the SPL. He has played against the best players in Europe and, at his age has showed amazing composure, maturity and attitude. If a sale is on then thats what is for sale. Everton? -no Champions League games, a club who thought big Sam was the answer to something at one time.Everton is like many clubs in the Premiership, mediocre but awash with EPL zillions.
KT might thrive there but will win no trophies but willl earn a huge wedge while Everton wait for him to mature then move him on. At £25million he will probably double his price if he stays on course.
Virgil was sold for 14 mill to southampton for £14M and in less than 3 years to Liverpool for £80M
If I were Celtic i would announce a 'no less than £45 million for KT' to the press and leave it at that. If clubs like Real Madrid, barca, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd, clubs of real pedigree come calling then Keiran can choose the best offer for his development as a footballer, the fee will not be a problem for any of them and his wages would be roughly the same at any of them.
We will have to let him go eventually, he is not a one season wonder and Celtic do not need to sell him
So whats the problem?
What part are people not getting? It's not Celtic trying to get rid. Why set a nonsense price of £45m, which no-one will pay, and keep an unhappy player? If he is for the off, I don't care where he goes so long as it's the highest bid on the table.

He's played in the CL? Big deal. Most of his performances have not been great. Naylor performed better in the CL overall.



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There seems to be much less concern about KT elsewhere on Timterweb

Is KDS better informed or misinformed ?
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2 Jul 2018, 09:34 AM
There seems to be much less concern about KT elsewhere on Timterweb

Is KDS better informed or misinformed ?
Huddleboard and Twitter are hoachin with Das. We've only had the one novena on here so far.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:20 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:06 AM

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:lmao:

Literally.
He's factually correct.

Unless of course you are mid air, or swimming.
Hence why it’s not much of an achievement. :thumbsup:
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2 Jul 2018, 09:33 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:29 AM
remy mcswain
2 Jul 2018, 09:06 AM

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KT has proved his worth in the SPL. He has played against the best players in Europe and, at his age has showed amazing composure, maturity and attitude. If a sale is on then thats what is for sale. Everton? -no Champions League games, a club who thought big Sam was the answer to something at one time.Everton is like many clubs in the Premiership, mediocre but awash with EPL zillions.
KT might thrive there but will win no trophies but willl earn a huge wedge while Everton wait for him to mature then move him on. At £25million he will probably double his price if he stays on course.
Virgil was sold for 14 mill to southampton for £14M and in less than 3 years to Liverpool for £80M
If I were Celtic i would announce a 'no less than £45 million for KT' to the press and leave it at that. If clubs like Real Madrid, barca, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd, clubs of real pedigree come calling then Keiran can choose the best offer for his development as a footballer, the fee will not be a problem for any of them and his wages would be roughly the same at any of them.
We will have to let him go eventually, he is not a one season wonder and Celtic do not need to sell him
So whats the problem?
What part are people not getting? It's not Celtic trying to get rid. Why set a nonsense price of £45m, which no-one will pay, and keep an unhappy player? If he is for the off, I don't care where he goes so long as it's the highest bid on the table.

He's played in the CL? Big deal. Most of his performances have not been great. Naylor performed better in the CL overall.



We just got Edouard for under £10m and people are wanting £45m for Tierney because some English club with more money than sense paid another English club with more money than sense a ridiculous fee for a shampooe player. The quicker people realize we are not part of the English market the better.

£25m for KT is a cracking price. I'd hope that he doesn't leave but there are a few other players in the team I'd rather keep tbh.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:29 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:01 AM
If he was playing in England you would be looking at a price of 40m+ so there is no way we should be taking any less, he has proven how good he is in the champions league and in a team that has dominated Scottish football so he is no risk to any club, we shouldn't even entertain a 25m bid with a 10% sell on clause because all we are doing is giving Everton a player that will make them serious money in a few years when he is sold on, we should be getting a players true worth and not the bargain basement price that the English clubs think we will jump at through desperation.
If he was playing in England...

There's your flaw right there.
KT has proved his worth in the SPL. He has played against the best players in Europe and, at his age has showed amazing composure, maturity and attitude. If a sale is on then thats what is for sale. Everton? -no Champions League games, a club who thought big Sam was the answer to something at one time.Everton is like many clubs in the Premiership, mediocre but awash with EPL zillions.
KT might thrive there but will win no trophies but willl earn a huge wedge while Everton wait for him to mature then move him on. At £25million he will probably double his price if he stays on course.
Virgil was sold for 14 mill to southampton for £14M and in less than 3 years to Liverpool for £80M
If I were Celtic i would announce a 'no less than £45 million for KT' to the press and leave it at that. If clubs like Real Madrid, barca, PSG, Juventus, Man Utd, clubs of real pedigree come calling then Keiran can choose the best offer for his development as a footballer, the fee will not be a problem for any of them and his wages would be roughly the same at any of them.
We will have to let him go eventually, he is not a one season wonder and Celtic do not need to sell him
So whats the problem?
The problem of Celtic setting an unreasonable price is that transfers at a level ( the total amount a buying club is prepared to pay for the total cost of owning a player for the totality of the player’s contract ) are a zero sum game between a selling club and the player whose registration they own.

In short the happier the selling club the unhappier the player and vice versa.

If Man City decide they will pay £60m to own KT for 5 years they mostly don’t care who gets that £60m. The selling club and the player fight for the slice of the cake. The cake doesn’t grow because one of them says they want more, the £60m stays £60m no matter the slicing process. Every £1 Celtic get comes from KTs slice.

This situation is ok until the selling club put the sales price so high as to scupper any deal while not paying the player near what he could earn elsewhere. At that point the player starts to feel aggrieved and certain techniques the club can’t control can be adopted.



Edited by Adam Smith 11, 2 Jul 2018, 09:53 AM.
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2 Jul 2018, 08:56 AM
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KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Are you an EPL fanboy?
I never mentioned the EPL.
No, you posted in gushing terms how you 'would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club' -as if he isn't already at a big club and shining. Then you got all moist talking about Dalglish and Liverpool. Since Tierney is linked with a move to the EPL, your inference was clear as day.
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2 Jul 2018, 09:44 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 09:08 AM

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He's factually correct.

Unless of course you are mid air, or swimming.
Hence why it’s not much of an achievement. :thumbsup:
I didn't say it was. :ph43r:

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Why the feck would he want to move to Everton anyway?
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2 Jul 2018, 09:49 AM
Why the feck would he want to move to Everton anyway?
Money.
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With the big players that have moved on in my lifetime you kind of got it as far as on field development goes. There is a certain point when they’re going to stagnate playing in Scotland. Van Dijk was not going to become a better player if he stayed here another year. Tierney on the other hand still has a ton of developing to do here. I think it’s be a mistake to go now. 60k++ a week aside
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