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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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2 Jul 2018, 01:09 AM
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2 Jul 2018, 01:06 AM
Can't see KT leaving as I've always thought his heart was set on being a Celtic legend.
Captain of the team that clinches 10 in a row.
Then move on at 24, safe in the knowledge he'll be regarded by the fans he loves as a hero for ever more.

No matter what he does, he'll be minted.
I'd say a lifelong legacy - and one that you will be able to live off for the rest of your life - would be more pertinent to young Kieran and his family.
Otherwise, head to Everton and he could be on the way down by the age of 23 after having his confidence eroded by playing with a poor team.

I'm confident Kieran Tierney will be here for 10 in a row! :thumbsup:
All round I think that's the best we could hope for. If not, so be it.
Agreed. :thumbsup: :pray:
I think KT could play whole his career at Celtic
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25 Million would buy an awful lot of left fullbacks for the SPL.
We don’t just play in the SPF(hel)L
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2 Jul 2018, 02:10 AM
25 Million would buy an awful lot of left fullbacks for the SPL.
We don’t just play in the SPF(hel)L
Ok. £25m would buy an awful lot of left fullbacks to help us get effed 7-0 in the CL :ph43r:
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KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Dalglish could have fulfilled his ambition at Celtic like the Lisbon lions if celtic had shown ambition by keeping the QSG and maybe buying pat Stanton but unfortunately he had to leave due to our boards lack of ambition.I think the difference is the financial gap is so big today that Tierney will probably go some time.I think he would like to stay with us for a few more yrs before going elsewhere and I would be surprised if he went to Everton but if Man U came for him he would have a decision to make.He certainly could fulfill his ambition if he stayed at Celtic for his career( certainly more so than going to Everton) and I want all our top players to stay and if he went I would only show a fleeting interest in him.Unfortunately the financial gap between us and the big leagues is getting too big.
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Yes I have a rock hard stauner at the thought of KT playing in the EPL. I can’t wait for the super dooper analysis coming his way on Sky Sports Super Sunday. They might even mention us once or twice in a really condescending manner.

On second thoughts I’d rather he stayed for at least two more years, dare I say three, and then go do his stuff elsewhere.
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Like Armstrong, VVD and most likely Dembele, players leave. It's all part of the game and we all get where we are in that respect.

In Dembele's case, personally I don't think moving to a team like Brighton is right for him. He and his team agreed and dug in. I also think cashing in at 20m was shortsighted and too cheap. The whole episode was reminiscent of other players who didn't want to leave but we're pressured into doing so. Maybe Tierney's advisers don't like this to happen to him and want to call the shots.

VVD was fair enough although I thought at the time the money wasn't good enough. In that case, we didn't buckle and kept him for an extra year. He went in a huff but it was better for him and the club.

In Armstrong's case we most likely got the best we could hope for. Even if he had five years on his deal, the way he played last year there would have been plenty ready to run him to England for 7m.

Every situation is different.

Tierney is different again because he's cultivated this Mr Celtic persona which he doesn't stop going on about. If he wasn't on the pitch he'd be in the stand watching? Well, he could easily retire by 25 on his Celtic contract and if he's smart never have to work again while he follows Celtic everywhere. Of course, that's unrealistic and I'm not suggesting he does it for a second. There are plenty who do though - and without those high salaries to set them up for life (I'm not one of them). Just saying that Tierney is the so called ultra, megaphone and flag and the lot, replica jersey on holiday, who may well have been working on this plan to leave for quite some time.

It's up to him but the others have been more up front about their intentions. And, as with Dembele, I reckon Everton is the wrong club for the wrong price. He'd only be using them as a stepping stone though if he's as good as we all think, so I'd be going for way more than 10% sell on fee.

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He can’t go, we can’t go back to the :leftback: years :twitch:
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We were out of Europe before the end of August - losing to the likes of Braga and Utrecht.

Its Rodgers - I am led to believe - who says that overhauling the first team like that is difficult. Probably based on his own experience with Suarez and the aftermath.


Fair enough. You cited two teams who arguably didn’t strengthen the full team after a big player sale. I showed we’ve already did it once - laying foundations for 10 and relative European success. Whether we can do it again remains to be seen.
Eh, No you didn't.

We totally rebuilt in Lennon's first year and had no European football after August. How much do you think that cost us ? We won a Scottish Cup that season. How many players do you think we'd need to sell if that happened next season ?
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Dalglish could have fulfilled his ambition at Celtic like the Lisbon lions if celtic had shown ambition by keeping the QSG and maybe buying pat Stanton but unfortunately he had to leave due to our boards lack of ambition.I think the difference is the financial gap is so big today that Tierney will probably go some time.I think he would like to stay with us for a few more yrs before going elsewhere and I would be surprised if he went to Everton but if Man U came for him he would have a decision to make.He certainly could fulfill his ambition if he stayed at Celtic for his career( certainly more so than going to Everton) and I want all our top players to stay and if he went I would only show a fleeting interest in him.Unfortunately the financial gap between us and the big leagues is getting too big.
Aye. I think we're seeing the folly of not properly investing in the defence these past few years. Getting carroted on the biggest stage must have limited appeal, particularly if you're tasked with keeping the door shut.

I doubt there will be a mad scramble to see the cream of European football kick our arses with what passes for a back four with the likes of Compper and Hendry at its heart. Maybe players are again scunnered at the lack of ambition to kick on in Europe. We have done brilliantly domestically and middle to front are very strong, but we are threadbare at the back and have been since Rodgers rightly recognised we needed immediate back up in Toure. It was the last real positive move there (although Ajer grabbing his chance has been a bonus I'm not sure I'd gamble 40m on him and AN Other).

Players like to make their mark - record breaking defeats aren't part of the plan I'm sure. Might be looking for another boss for the 10 if we're not careful.
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Fair enough. You cited two teams who arguably didn’t strengthen the full team after a big player sale. I showed we’ve already did it once - laying foundations for 10 and relative European success. Whether we can do it again remains to be seen.
Eh, No you didn't.

We totally rebuilt in Lennon's first year and had no European football after August. How much do you think that cost us ? We won a Scottish Cup that season. How many players do you think we'd need to sell if that happened next season ?
If you can’t see the McGeady cash strengthened Celtic and led to 2012 I can’t be arsed explaining it to you. I bid you a good Monday.
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Starting to feel very ominous about all this now. Really hope he stays with us but, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if a big bid does come in for him.
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Kenny was 26 y/o when he left Celtic, had won the lot and been captain and a member of 9 in a row.

KT just turned 21 y/o and played just over 100 games, not captain, no decent run in europe yet and not a member if he goes of 9 and/or 10 in a row.

if KT goes right now he'll be remembered far more like Macari and there is not a chance in hell KT is remembered as a Celtic great; he is simply not here long enough or done enough right now... if he goes in 2 or 3 years thats different.

Also spare me the EPL fanboy rubbish.. in the nicest possible sense i don't real care where anyone goes after Celtic, i don't wish them harm but i won't be following is career like he's an extension of Celtic and doubt many others will... i really don't a flying eff if people hail an immense talent if its not in a Celtic shirt, goes for any other player too.. in england he's just another guy.
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I didn't realise Celtic were so gash, I must have been watching a different team these last couple years :ponder:
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fuzzy dunlop
2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Dalglish could have fulfilled his ambition at Celtic like the Lisbon lions if celtic had shown ambition by keeping the QSG and maybe buying pat Stanton but unfortunately he had to leave due to our boards lack of ambition.I think the difference is the financial gap is so big today that Tierney will probably go some time.I think he would like to stay with us for a few more yrs before going elsewhere and I would be surprised if he went to Everton but if Man U came for him he would have a decision to make.He certainly could fulfill his ambition if he stayed at Celtic for his career( certainly more so than going to Everton) and I want all our top players to stay and if he went I would only show a fleeting interest in him.Unfortunately the financial gap between us and the big leagues is getting too big.
Aye. I think we're seeing the folly of not properly investing in the defence these past few years. Getting carroted on the biggest stage must have limited appeal, particularly if you're tasked with keeping the door shut.

I doubt there will be a mad scramble to see the cream of European football kick our arses with what passes for a back four with the likes of Compper and Hendry at its heart. Maybe players are again scunnered at the lack of ambition to kick on in Europe. We have done brilliantly domestically and middle to front are very strong, but we are threadbare at the back and have been since Rodgers rightly recognised we needed immediate back up in Toure. It was the last real positive move there (although Ajer grabbing his chance has been a bonus I'm not sure I'd gamble 40m on him and AN Other).

Players like to make their mark - record breaking defeats aren't part of the plan I'm sure. Might be looking for another boss for the 10 if we're not careful.
We’re a team in progress and hopefully we will strengthen the defence and play a bit better in the CL.We’ll not get stronger by selling the likes of Tierney though.
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2 Jul 2018, 07:21 AM
KT has literally got the world at his feet. He is as everyone on here always says the best LB in Britain (often compared to Shaw and Robertson). I agree and would love to see him shine at (sic) a big club and every other punter appreciate his talent.
I get the resentment with some but I think it is the pain of losing him, a knee jerk reaction to a perceived betrayal. Dalglish left Celtic a brilliant player to go on to become a Celtic and Liverpool legend with the whole world hailing him as an immense talent. I want the same for KT.
Kenny was 26 y/o when he left Celtic, had won the lot and been captain and a member of 9 in a row.

KT just turned 21 y/o and played just over 100 games, not captain, no decent run in europe yet and not a member if he goes of 9 and/or 10 in a row.

if KT goes right now he'll be remembered far more like Macari and there is not a chance in hell KT is remembered as a Celtic great; he is simply not here long enough or done enough right now... if he goes in 2 or 3 years thats different.

Also spare me the EPL fanboy rubbish.. in the nicest possible sense i don't real care where anyone goes after Celtic, i don't wish them harm but i won't be following is career like he's an extension of Celtic and doubt many others will... i really don't a flying eff if people hail an immense talent if its not in a Celtic shirt, goes for any other player too.. in england he's just another guy.
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He's too young to move IMO, in a few more years, he'll have a pile of medals, and if we win 10 in a row, he'll already be a legend and will have achieved everything he can at this level. That's the time to move to some no-mark English club for money. If it works out for him ala Wanyama or Van Dijk then he gets a bigger move to one of England's actual big clubs. If not, then he floats about random bottom of the Premiership or Championship teams, making mad cabbage. We'd have to get a cartoonishly big offer to sell him now, given that we currently haven't strengthened to any real degree. Unless we have a couple of REAL top players ready to sign, selling Tierney would be the club basically saying "we aren't making the CL this year, and we are going to gamble that we don't need too much to win the league again".

Also, I do think people are still too generous with their assessments of offers. 25M for a SPL player is extremely unlikely. People are saying "He's an international and he's played in the CL!" like English clubs will care. He's an international for Scotland FFS, and he doesn't even play his own position some of the time. And our CL performances don't reflect well on the defence. To English eyes, players in England automatically have more value, whether that is "fair" or "right" isn't anything we can fix. That is why direct comparisons to Maddison type players don't work.
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He's too young to move IMO, in a few more years, he'll have a pile of medals, and if we win 10 in a row, he'll already be a legend and will have achieved everything he can at this level. That's the time to move to some no-mark English club for money. If it works out for him ala Wanyama or Van Dijk then he gets a bigger move to one of England's actual big clubs. If not, then he floats about random bottom of the Premiership or Championship teams, making mad cabbage. We'd have to get a cartoonishly big offer to sell him now, given that we currently haven't strengthened to any real degree. Unless we have a couple of REAL top players ready to sign, selling Tierney would be the club basically saying "we aren't making the CL this year, and we are going to gamble that we don't need too much to win the league again".

Also, I do think people are still too generous with their assessments of offers. 25M for a SPL player is extremely unlikely. People are saying "He's an international and he's played in the CL!" like English clubs will care. He's an international for Scotland FFS, and he doesn't even play his own position some of the time. And our CL performances don't reflect well on the defence. To English eyes, players in England automatically have more value, whether that is "fair" or "right" isn't anything we can fix. That is why direct comparisons to Maddison type players don't work.
The club aren’t basically saying anything. This is down to the player.
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