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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,647 Views)
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oneillsrevolution
1 Jul 2018, 08:22 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM
murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
I'm sure when Bale left Spurs and Suarez left Liverpool many of their fans thought great we can strengthen the whole side. Both did garbage as a result.

Rodgers told the Celtic top brass two years ago that the most you want to change your first team starters in one year is three, four at a push. Armstrong's gone, Roberts gone, Dembele likely to go, central defenders for the off. Now possibly Tierney ? That will mean a big big overhaul.

Tierney leaving - and I accept there maybe nowt we can do to stop it - is not good even at £25M given whats going on elsewhere in the team.
On the other hand, when McGeady left for £9m in August 2010 we signed:

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10 Anthony Stokes, £800,000 from Hibernian, Aug 2010 [BBC]
26 Fraser Forster, (loan) from Newcastle United, Aug 2010 [BBC]
03 Emilio Izaguirre, £600,000 from Motagua, Aug 2010 [BBC]
05 Daniel Majstorovic, free from AEK Athens, Aug 2010 [BBC]
33 Beram Kayal, undisclosed from Maccabi Haifa, Jul 2010 [BBC]
88 Gary Hooper, £2.4m from Scarrothorpe, Jul 2010 [BBC]
04 Efrain Juarez, undisclosed from UNAM Pumas, Jul 2010 [BBC]
27 Daryl Murphy, £1.5m from Sunderland, Jul 2010 [BBC]
16 Joe Ledley, free from Cardiff City, Jul 2010 [BBC]
11 Cha Du-Ri, free from SC Freiburg, Jul 2010 [BBC]
21 Charlie Mulgrew, free from Aberdeen, Jul 2010 [BBC]






Aye but they're all either too old or keech now.
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James McCarthy not part of the equation.

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1 Jul 2018, 08:21 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM

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Wayne Rooney :clap:

I'd rather we got another year or two than have him come back when he is past it and thinks he is doibg us some sort of favour.
What if he's not past it? What if he's 31 or 32 and playing at the peak of his powers with another good 3 or 4 seasons in him?
What ifs isn't it? Seen this movie too often in other sports just now where players know they can go elsewhere to make their money safe in the knowledge that if it doesn't work out, or when it suits them, there is a muggins of a club they "love" they can return to.

I don't begrudge any player moving on but portraying yourself as Mr Celtic, signing a massively long term deal and moving before you even see one year of it is taking the pish. If it happens. Far better players have moved after longer Celtic careers where they haven't played up to the fans and get slagged for it.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:29 PM
James McCarthy not part of the equation.

Good, vastly overrated.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We'll no spend anywhere near the £25million we bring in and even then what would it get us considering guys like Madfison goes for £20 odd million down south and clubs in Europe will be seeing how much cash we have.
If we sell Tierney who has 5 years on his deal left we might as well put the money into a museum and hotel and spend our weekends in them cause not only will "Mr Celtic" be leaving every other half decent player we have on our books will follow him soon enough. If he won't stay why should they?
As for Tierney, he currently has a chance to be a genuine Celtic legend. If he goes to England, and I can understand what his reasons might be, his legacy at the club would be average.
Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements (and he's already made history with Invincibles).

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
Not one we will sing about though. McGeady left us with a sizable chunk of cash in the bank. Don't hear his name ring out much these days.

Andy Walker was a centenary season legend, Burley a stop the ten legend. Darren Jackson too. If Tierney goes, his name might not be treated with similar disdain, but he'll not be remembered like McStay or McGrain, or even Scott Brown. He'll be up there with the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who effed off at the first opportunity.
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Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements (and he's already made history with Invincibles).

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
Not one we will sing about though. McGeady left us with a sizable chunk of cash in the bank. Don't hear his name ring out much these days.

Andy Walker was a centenary season legend, Burley a stop the ten legend. Darren Jackson too. If Tierney goes, his name might not be treated with similar disdain, but he'll not be remembered like McStay or McGrain, or even Scott Brown. He'll be up there with the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who effed off at the first opportunity.
On a par with Stuart Armstrong. You've took that too far.
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Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements (and he's already made history with Invincibles).

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
Not one we will sing about though. McGeady left us with a sizable chunk of cash in the bank. Don't hear his name ring out much these days.

Andy Walker was a centenary season legend, Burley a stop the ten legend. Darren Jackson too. If Tierney goes, his name might not be treated with similar disdain, but he'll not be remembered like McStay or McGrain, or even Scott Brown. He'll be up there with the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who effed off at the first opportunity.
Yip. Lou Macari is still seen as a money grabbing fandan fae the 70s.
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Couple of other things that might/might not be factors:

- maybe he doesn’t fancy playing in a back three
- seeing Andy Robertson playing in the CL final
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Not one we will sing about though. McGeady left us with a sizable chunk of cash in the bank. Don't hear his name ring out much these days.

Andy Walker was a centenary season legend, Burley a stop the ten legend. Darren Jackson too. If Tierney goes, his name might not be treated with similar disdain, but he'll not be remembered like McStay or McGrain, or even Scott Brown. He'll be up there with the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who effed off at the first opportunity.
On a par with Stuart Armstrong. You've took that too far.
What would be the difference?
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krungthep
1 Jul 2018, 08:29 PM
James McCarthy not part of the equation.

We should try and get someone as part of the deal. Even if it was just a loan. Onyekuru or Vlasic or Holgate or someone. A lot of good youngsters there...
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Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements (and he's already made history with Invincibles).

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
Not one we will sing about though. McGeady left us with a sizable chunk of cash in the bank. Don't hear his name ring out much these days.

Andy Walker was a centenary season legend, Burley a stop the ten legend. Darren Jackson too. If Tierney goes, his name might not be treated with similar disdain, but he'll not be remembered like McStay or McGrain, or even Scott Brown. He'll be up there with the likes of Stuart Armstrong, who effed off at the first opportunity.
If he's agitating he's at it and BR is trying to manage our expectations

Taking the loudspeaker then effin off aye very good Kieran
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1 Jul 2018, 08:29 PM
James McCarthy not part of the equation.

Weve agreed a fee then ?
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1 Jul 2018, 08:40 PM
Couple of other things that might/might not be factors:

- maybe he doesn’t fancy playing in a back three
- seeing Andy Robertson playing in the CL final
That might be Robertson's one and only time doing that. Plus they got gubbed.

Better players than Robertson in better teams with better managers only got to one or two CL finals. He'll not be doing it if he joins Everton anyway.

If he does go to a top club, he'll play in a back three or anywhere he's told, regardless of what he fancies.
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On a par with Stuart Armstrong. You've took that too far.
What would be the difference?
Difference is Armstrong is a footballing mercenary with no interest in Celtic.
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We’re reaching the champions league group stages so we don’t need to sell anyone.I don’t mind selling a player who wants to leave but I don’t think Tierney does.If we sell him then it’s more likely that other players will see a lack of ambition by celtic and are more likely to want to leave as well.We could keep him for another 4 seasons then sell him for a lot more money unless he regresses which doesn’t look likely.
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On a par with Stuart Armstrong. You've took that too far.
What would be the difference?
There is one big difference and it is one that would show Armstring in a more positive light when comparing both if this transfsr happens.
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Couple of other things that might/might not be factors:

- maybe he doesn’t fancy playing in a back three
- seeing Andy Robertson playing in the CL final
Naw just naw. The European Cup Final thing is pure daftness. Even if he was moving to Man U or City it is a long shot. Liverpool and Roberston's season was pretty flukey. Just like this World Cup is.
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What would be the difference?
There is one big difference and it is one that would show Armstring in a more positive light when comparing both if this transfsr happens.
Not sure I follow here but can read between the lines.

KT is agitating for a move in more explicit terms than Armstrong? That's hard to believe since Stuart had his pants aff waiting to get shafted at least since January 2017.
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I’m torn on this, as most know I’ve been critical of him at times :ph43r: but he is vital to us in an attacking sense domestically. Conversely, at that money I think we could get someone who is a better defender. It’ll be a very interesting window for us if Tierney does leave.
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We’re reaching the champions league group stages so we don’t need to sell anyone.I don’t mind selling a player who wants to leave but I don’t think Tierney does.If we sell him then it’s more likely that other players will see a lack of ambition by celtic and are more likely to want to leave as well.We could keep him for another 4 seasons then sell him for a lot more money unless he regresses which doesn’t look likely.
You learn something new every day here. I thought we had 4 qualifiers to play. I’ll book my 3 match package now.

BTW if Tierney wants to stay he just needs to say... ‘I’m staying’. Nobody is going to tie him up in the boot of a car and drive home to Tottenham or wherever.
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