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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,648 Views)
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murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We've been doing well financially for several years and we've not managed to strengthen the defence in five windows. Now its about to be obliterated.
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If we do sell Kierien for £25m, not convinced the money will be given to Brendan to improve the side.
Edited by CELTBHOY1988, 1 Jul 2018, 08:07 PM.
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bubba
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
If we lose kt on top of armstrong and roberts we will be massively weakened on last year

Lots of work to do
We hardly got anything out of Armstrong and Roberts last season.
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remy mcswain
1 Jul 2018, 07:30 PM
Not looking good here. May need more than a back up left back soon.
Surprised to hear this. I’ve been assured on here that that Kieran will be with us for
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1 Jul 2018, 08:09 PM
remy mcswain
1 Jul 2018, 07:30 PM
Not looking good here. May need more than a back up left back soon.
Surprised to hear this. I’ve been assured on here that that Kieran will be with us for
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murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We'll no spend anywhere near the £25million we bring in and even then what would it get us considering guys like Madfison goes for £20 odd million down south and clubs in Europe will be seeing how much cash we have.
If we sell Tierney who has 5 years on his deal left we might as well put the money into a museum and hotel and spend our weekends in them cause not only will "Mr Celtic" be leaving every other half decent player we have on our books will follow him soon enough. If he won't stay why should they?
As for Tierney, he currently has a chance to be a genuine Celtic legend. If he goes to England, and I can understand what his reasons might be, his legacy at the club would be average.
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murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
I'm sure when Bale left Spurs and Suarez left Liverpool many of their fans thought great we can strengthen the whole side. Both did garbage as a result.

Rodgers told the Celtic top brass two years ago that the most you want to change your first team starters in one year is three, four at a push. Armstrong's gone, Roberts gone, Dembele likely to go, central defenders for the off. Now possibly Tierney ? That will mean a big big overhaul.

Tierney leaving - and I accept there maybe nowt we can do to stop it - is not good even at £25M given whats going on elsewhere in the team.
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CELTBHOY1988
1 Jul 2018, 08:06 PM
If we do sell Kierien for £25m, not convinced the money will be given to Brendan to improve the side.
Whether it’s transfer fees for new players, increased deals for current players, or investment in the infrastructure (Lennoxtown etc), the money will be spent on the football team.

I slightly disagree with murphio in the necessity to accept £25m, but it is what we are set up to do. Buy guys cheaply, turn them into CL players, sell them for a profit, rinse and repeat with hopefully bigger amounts each cycle.
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bubba
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
If we lose kt on top of armstrong and roberts we will be massively weakened on last year

Lots of work to do
And to think there are a number of people who would shunt Boyata out the door at this time too.

Timing is woeful. We need to keep a healthy core intact from one season to the next. If KT leaves we need to shut the door for the season.

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1 Jul 2018, 08:04 PM
murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We've been doing well financially for several years and we've not managed to strengthen the defence in five windows. Now its about to be obliterated.
It's a balancing act for sure but, like I said, £25m is a lot of money and with wise reinvestment we COULD end up a stronger team even accounting for the loss of a good individual. A major worry, of course, is signings like De Vries, Hendry and Gamboa - which hardly inspire confidence back there. Rodgers doesn't seem convinced by Simunovic, Boyata has only a year left and you'd think will be sold if he doesn't sign so if KT does go - we are looking at one hell of an overhaul. :twitch:
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM
murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We'll no spend anywhere near the £25million we bring in and even then what would it get us considering guys like Madfison goes for £20 odd million down south and clubs in Europe will be seeing how much cash we have.
If we sell Tierney who has 5 years on his deal left we might as well put the money into a museum and hotel and spend our weekends in them cause not only will "Mr Celtic" be leaving every other half decent player we have on our books will follow him soon enough. If he won't stay why should they?
As for Tierney, he currently has a chance to be a genuine Celtic legend. If he goes to England, and I can understand what his reasons might be, his legacy at the club would be average.
Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements (and he's already made history with Invincibles).

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
Edited by oneillsrevolution, 1 Jul 2018, 08:17 PM.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM
murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
We'll no spend anywhere near the £25million we bring in and even then what would it get us considering guys like Madfison goes for £20 odd million down south and clubs in Europe will be seeing how much cash we have.
If we sell Tierney who has 5 years on his deal left we might as well put the money into a museum and hotel and spend our weekends in them cause not only will "Mr Celtic" be leaving every other half decent player we have on our books will follow him soon enough. If he won't stay why should they?
As for Tierney, he currently has a chance to be a genuine Celtic legend. If he goes to England, and I can understand what his reasons might be, his legacy at the club would be average.
Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements.

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
He'll be back anaw :clap:
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM

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Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements.

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
He'll be back anaw :clap:
I see your thinking.

Sign for Everton for £25m. Back on a Bosman in 2021.
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If KT goes we'll get top dollar because there's no pressure to sell whatsoever.
It's top whack or not at all.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:09 PM
bubba
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
If we lose kt on top of armstrong and roberts we will be massively weakened on last year

Lots of work to do
We hardly got anything out of Armstrong and Roberts last season.
Granted but when people talk about trimming the squad no one in their right mind would be talking about those 3

We played poorly for a lot of the season because a lot of players were injured

We can't expect to play better when some of those same players are unavailable for whatever reason

We needed a right back, centre half, right winger, back up left back and central midfielder going into this window and we've sold a midfielder and could sell our only left back

We'd need 3 defenders, a right winger and midfielder and we all know that's never going to happen

We could also sell boyata and possibly jozo
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1 Jul 2018, 08:17 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM

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He'll be back anaw :clap:
I see your thinking.

Sign for Everton for £25m. Back on a Bosman in 2021.
As long as he stays fit I think the last contract Tierney signs is a Celtic one.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM

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Only if you're measuring his legacy in his personal footballing achievements.

A home-grown player leaving for £25m would be an unprecedented legacy.
He'll be back anaw :clap:
Wayne Rooney :clap:

I'd rather we got another year or two than have him come back when he is past it and thinks he is doibg us some sort of favour.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:17 PM
If KT goes we'll get top dollar because there's no pressure to sell whatsoever.
It's top whack or not at all.
There could very well be pressure to sell from the player’s side.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:19 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 08:16 PM

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He'll be back anaw :clap:
Wayne Rooney :clap:

I'd rather we got another year or two than have him come back when he is past it and thinks he is doibg us some sort of favour.
What if he's not past it? What if he's 31 or 32 and playing at the peak of his powers with another good 3 or 4 seasons in him?
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1 Jul 2018, 08:12 PM
murphio
1 Jul 2018, 08:01 PM
Can Celtic afford to have a £25m left back? I'm not sure we can. Tierney is a terrific young player and I'll be sorry to see him go but with smart reinvestment I'd hope we can improve the team overall with that kind of money even if it's very likely we will end up weaker in that one position.
I'm sure when Bale left Spurs and Suarez left Liverpool many of their fans thought great we can strengthen the whole side. Both did garbage as a result.

Rodgers told the Celtic top brass two years ago that the most you want to change your first team starters in one year is three, four at a push. Armstrong's gone, Roberts gone, Dembele likely to go, central defenders for the off. Now possibly Tierney ? That will mean a big big overhaul.

Tierney leaving - and I accept there maybe nowt we can do to stop it - is not good even at £25M given whats going on elsewhere in the team.
On the other hand, when McGeady left for £9m in August 2010 we signed:

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10 Anthony Stokes, £800,000 from Hibernian, Aug 2010 [BBC]
26 Fraser Forster, (loan) from Newcastle United, Aug 2010 [BBC]
03 Emilio Izaguirre, £600,000 from Motagua, Aug 2010 [BBC]
05 Daniel Majstorovic, free from AEK Athens, Aug 2010 [BBC]
33 Beram Kayal, undisclosed from Maccabi Haifa, Jul 2010 [BBC]
88 Gary Hooper, £2.4m from Scarrothorpe, Jul 2010 [BBC]
04 Efrain Juarez, undisclosed from UNAM Pumas, Jul 2010 [BBC]
27 Daryl Murphy, £1.5m from Sunderland, Jul 2010 [BBC]
16 Joe Ledley, free from Cardiff City, Jul 2010 [BBC]
11 Cha Du-Ri, free from SC Freiburg, Jul 2010 [BBC]
21 Charlie Mulgrew, free from Aberdeen, Jul 2010 [BBC]






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