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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,651 Views)
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1 Jul 2018, 10:47 AM
Everton supporting mate seems to think they have offered 22m plus James McCarthy.
McCarthy isn't worth £28m
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1 Jul 2018, 11:00 AM
The Record reported the Everton bid yeaterday with the headline “Trouble in Paradise”. Surprised there were no cracked crests.
Their headline today was we are gonna knock back the bid
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1 Jul 2018, 11:37 AM
tinsoldier
1 Jul 2018, 11:00 AM
The Record reported the Everton bid yeaterday with the headline “Trouble in Paradise”. Surprised there were no cracked crests.
Their headline today was we are gonna knock back the bid
Good.
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Eff Everton and their media games, trying to unsettle the player. I'll be very disappointed if Tierney goes there. Spurs on the other hand would be a no-brainer. I'd still be gutted, but also happy for the lad. He'll develop and play at a high level under Pochettino. Not sure about Silva as a manager, but Everton as a club are beneath him.
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Strange one this. Almost sounds like we're trying to flush bids out.
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1 Jul 2018, 10:57 AM
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1 Jul 2018, 10:46 AM

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Doesn’t mean I’m wrong

You think we will get a piece saying KT should stay because he still young and is one of the best prospects we’ve produced in years and it improves the standard of the league and he gets loads of euro experience too ?
I want him to stay, but there comes a point we need to hold our hands up whats best for KT and the club. He will get a family line changing offer and we don't need a £30-40m rated left-back to beat Sevco. He's currently doing the things you say he is; playing experience including in Europe and improving the standard of the league. And Celtic producing a talent like KT is amazing for the reputation of the club's youth department.

But you are wrong its a big media conspiracy. BR has given a blunt interview reiterating what we all know: if we get a major bid it will be received and most players will accept life changing offers. We can't offer the wages or playing environment that major leagues do.
I’m actually not suggesting it’s all a big media conspiracy

But that our msm take on these things is predictable

FWIW - I don’t see him going to Everton - I wasn’t overly worried about what BR said - he was honest and obviously ‘astronomical bids’ are hard to turn down - I think he means north of 25 mill for KT and he clearly states he’ll only leave to a ‘top’ club - that’s not Everton

I’m sure he’ll go eventually but he’s young enough to give us a couple more years, get even better and then go

The media gettting excitable about our better players leaving isn’t paranoia or tin foil hat stuff - they’ve always done this
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1 Jul 2018, 12:50 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 10:57 AM
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I want him to stay, but there comes a point we need to hold our hands up whats best for KT and the club. He will get a family line changing offer and we don't need a £30-40m rated left-back to beat Sevco. He's currently doing the things you say he is; playing experience including in Europe and improving the standard of the league. And Celtic producing a talent like KT is amazing for the reputation of the club's youth department.

But you are wrong its a big media conspiracy. BR has given a blunt interview reiterating what we all know: if we get a major bid it will be received and most players will accept life changing offers. We can't offer the wages or playing environment that major leagues do.
I’m actually not suggesting it’s all a big media conspiracy

But that our msm take on these things is predictable

FWIW - I don’t see him going to Everton - I wasn’t overly worried about what BR said - he was honest and obviously ‘astronomical bids’ are hard to turn down - I think he means north of 25 mill for KT and he clearly states he’ll only leave to a ‘top’ club - that’s not Everton

I’m sure he’ll go eventually but he’s young enough to give us a couple more years, get even better and then go

The media gettting excitable about our better players leaving isn’t paranoia or tin foil hat stuff - they’ve always done this
I agree we need more than £25m and KT can set his sights higher than Everton. But that's the rumour at the moment. We all have a justified disdain for the Scottish sports press. But do we really expect them not to report when theres a sniff of a transfer that would break several records? You want a wee paragraph in the inside of the Record so as not to disrupt preseason in Austria?
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1 Jul 2018, 12:55 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 12:50 PM
oneillsrevolution
1 Jul 2018, 10:57 AM

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I’m actually not suggesting it’s all a big media conspiracy

But that our msm take on these things is predictable

FWIW - I don’t see him going to Everton - I wasn’t overly worried about what BR said - he was honest and obviously ‘astronomical bids’ are hard to turn down - I think he means north of 25 mill for KT and he clearly states he’ll only leave to a ‘top’ club - that’s not Everton

I’m sure he’ll go eventually but he’s young enough to give us a couple more years, get even better and then go

The media gettting excitable about our better players leaving isn’t paranoia or tin foil hat stuff - they’ve always done this
I agree we need more than £25m and KT can set his sights higher than Everton. But that's the rumour at the moment. We all have a justified disdain for the Scottish sports press. But do we really expect them not to report when theres a sniff of a transfer that would break several records? You want a wee paragraph in the inside of the Record so as not to disrupt preseason in Austria?
Not exactly, no - you may be reading too much into what I’m said

Never mentioned disruption or a desire for a small paragraph - their approach to this is and always had been the same - that’s my point - there are ways to report this and some of it is the usual over the top ‘preparing for life without KT’ stuff - I’ve no problem calling that guff out - it’s possible to have a view on the slant the media takes without losing sight of the fact he may indeed be sold at some point - and for an astronomical fee no doubt - like I said befor - I don’t think that’ll be this season and I don’t think it’ll be to Everton
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£25 million is selling Tierney way short. If James Maddison - a guy who never looked like a superstar in a bang average Aberdeen team a year ago - is worth £20 million then Tierney is worth double that at least. Same goes for Dembele - he's a £35-40million player in the current market. The money in England has went utterly bonkers - that boy who signed for Cardiff for £10million the other day I genuinely had never even heard of till he was mentioned on here.

If and when KT leaves it'll be after he's lifted 10 in a row and it'll be to either a top 6 club in England or one of the very top European sides.
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1 Jul 2018, 01:02 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 12:55 PM
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1 Jul 2018, 12:50 PM

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I agree we need more than £25m and KT can set his sights higher than Everton. But that's the rumour at the moment. We all have a justified disdain for the Scottish sports press. But do we really expect them not to report when theres a sniff of a transfer that would break several records? You want a wee paragraph in the inside of the Record so as not to disrupt preseason in Austria?
Not exactly, no - you may be reading too much into what I’m said

Never mentioned disruption or a desire for a small paragraph - their approach to this is and always had been the same - that’s my point - there are ways to report this and some of it is the usual over the top ‘preparing for life without KT’ stuff - I’ve no problem calling that guff out - it’s possible to have a view on the slant the media takes without losing sight of the fact he may indeed be sold at some point - and for an astronomical fee no doubt - like I said befor - I don’t think that’ll be this season and I don’t think it’ll be to Everton
Point taken. But we know those animals life off the reporting of sensationalist rumours and that football sells their papers, even if in lower numbers than pre-internet.
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Miscellaneous67
1 Jul 2018, 01:05 PM
£25 million is selling Tierney way short. If James Maddison - a guy who never looked like a superstar in a bang average Aberdeen team a year ago - is worth £20 million then Tierney is worth double that at least. Same goes for Dembele - he's a £35-40million player in the current market. The money in England has went utterly bonkers - that boy who signed for Cardiff for £10million the other day I genuinely had never even heard of till he was mentioned on here.

If and when KT leaves it'll be after he's lifted 10 in a row and it'll be to either a top 6 club in England or one of the very top European sides.
Been said plenty times in this thread and elsewhere -

There's no point comparing the values of Scottish players with English home-grown players. The home-grown status adds a premium.
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If oor Kieran goes I will be gutted. I'm fairly certain that he will not be going to Everton, but if Spurs or Man Utd come in for him then is the time to worry.

Also, if he does go I would bet it will be £30M+ with add ons.

Apart from the fact he is an outstanding footballer he is Celtic through and through and would run through a brick wall for us.... that combination is very hard to replace.

I will say a wee novena in the hope he stays because he will leave a hole in our hearts and in the team if he goes.
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30 million plus McCarthy. Anything less & we are being robbed.
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1 Jul 2018, 01:05 PM
£25 million is selling Tierney way short. If James Maddison - a guy who never looked like a superstar in a bang average Aberdeen team a year ago - is worth £20 million then Tierney is worth double that at least. Same goes for Dembele - he's a £35-40million player in the current market. The money in England has went utterly bonkers - that boy who signed for Cardiff for £10million the other day I genuinely had never even heard of till he was mentioned on here.

If and when KT leaves it'll be after he's lifted 10 in a row and it'll be to either a top 6 club in England or one of the very top European sides.
Been said plenty times in this thread and elsewhere -

There's no point comparing the values of Scottish players with English home-grown players. The home-grown status adds a premium.
Provided they’re actually any good.
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1 Jul 2018, 01:45 PM
30 million plus McCarthy. Anything less & we are being robbed.
Alternatively, why not take the money we’d spend on McCarthy’s wages and increase Tierney’s wages? Do you think McCarthy is going to come for less than £50k

Why would we want McCarthy? He’s made 16 appearances in 2 seasons and plays in an area where we have plenty of good options already. People were saying Obubajo was too big a gamble and laughing at sevco signing crocks... :doh:
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1 Jul 2018, 01:05 PM
£25 million is selling Tierney way short. If James Maddison - a guy who never looked like a superstar in a bang average Aberdeen team a year ago - is worth £20 million then Tierney is worth double that at least. Same goes for Dembele - he's a £35-40million player in the current market. The money in England has went utterly bonkers - that boy who signed for Cardiff for £10million the other day I genuinely had never even heard of till he was mentioned on here.

If and when KT leaves it'll be after he's lifted 10 in a row and it'll be to either a top 6 club in England or one of the very top European sides.
Been said plenty times in this thread and elsewhere -

There's no point comparing the values of Scottish players with English home-grown players. The home-grown status adds a premium.
Provided they’re actually any good.
They don't even have to be that good. A result of the craziest transfer market in the world.

Read an article about Jack Rodwell and Sunderland this morning. It costs Sunderland £299,000 for every appearance :ffs:
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30 million plus McCarthy. Anything less & we are being robbed.
Alternatively, why not take the money we’d spend on McCarthy’s wages and increase Tierney’s wages? Do you think McCarthy is going to come for less than £50k

Why would we want McCarthy? He’s made 16 appearances in 2 seasons and plays in an area where we have plenty of good options already. People were saying Obubajo was too big a gamble and laughing at sevco signing crocks... :doh:
I should have added if McCarthy can recover his fitness.

He is a brilliant player imo.

If we are to lose Tierney (I hope we don't) then it will be on our own terms.
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£25 million is selling Tierney way short. If James Maddison - a guy who never looked like a superstar in a bang average Aberdeen team a year ago - is worth £20 million then Tierney is worth double that at least. Same goes for Dembele - he's a £35-40million player in the current market. The money in England has went utterly bonkers - that boy who signed for Cardiff for £10million the other day I genuinely had never even heard of till he was mentioned on here.

If and when KT leaves it'll be after he's lifted 10 in a row and it'll be to either a top 6 club in England or one of the very top European sides.
Why would James Maddison’s performances for Aberdeen two years ago be a barometer for Kieran Tierney’s value today (or anyone else’s for that matter)?
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although what Waddell says is in essence correct, would he and many others in the scottish media be writing such an article if Tierney played for the huns ? I don`t think so
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1 Jul 2018, 03:26 PM
although what Waddell says is in essence correct, would he and many others in the scottish media be writing such an article if Tierney played for the huns ? I don`t think so
The Scottish media wouldn't be writing about a transfer bid for a Sevco player that would not only be a record transfer in Scottish football, but would also be a record for a Scottish player?

Are you serious?
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