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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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1 Jul 2018, 12:26 AM
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Aye, it’s fair. Would you prefer us to bend over and accept a lesser amount when lesser players are going for astronomical sums down there? I don’t want him to leave, certainly not to mid-table shampooe like Everton, so hopefully it’s a lot of pish.
No, sorry, I made earlier comment that I think Tierney will go for an awful lot more than £25m. He can play LB, CH, RB, LWB and even LW. He's on a 6-year contract. He's captained his club and country, played in Champions League, and won three titles including two trebles. He is in UEFA and FIFA official top ten lists and has been scouted by everyone of note. Has Maddison, by comparison, even had a full season? I'm with you on this one, with the length of his contract, his versatility, Champions League experience and recognition as one of the top prospects. I think if and when he does go, and I don't see it as anytime soon, it will be for more than what is quoted and will be to a team better than Everton.
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1 Jul 2018, 12:59 AM
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I'm being made to look silly? Very good, captain sensible. You read your own posts? I'm going by the manager's words and the posts of a few people more in the know than I am about anything. If the manager doesn't want speculation, he doesn't lead it. He's absolutely opened up the discussion here, not anyone else. The same thing happened with Dembele in January and if you read posts from someone on here who is close to his situation, it wasn't Dembele who was driving at a move to Brighton in January. Until yesterday, I would have said there was absolutely no chance of Tierney leaving any time soon. In fact, I'd argued that he's the epitome of a one-club player.
Crap, and nobody is a “one-club player” but anyone, other than a hack with an agenda, who thinks for one second KT is going to Everton for that fee should lie down for a while and stop ready newspapers. You're a bad advert for sunshine. Wear a hat and drink some water.
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1 Jul 2018, 03:08 AM
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Good luck to the boy if he goes. We'll live. English teams can only buy until 9th August. In the next 5/6 weeks we'll know either way. Leaves us short for the later stages of qualifying though. It does seem there is genuine movement on this.
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1 Jul 2018, 03:40 AM
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Crap, and nobody is a “one-club player” but anyone, other than a hack with an agenda, who thinks for one second KT is going to Everton for that fee should lie down for a while and stop ready newspapers.
You're a bad advert for sunshine. Wear a hat and drink some water. Aye, right you are.
Put down your red top, cease with the Daily Mail and Herald led view of life, Traynor and his ilk are meaningless these days. Times have moved on and left you and them behind.
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1 Jul 2018, 08:14 AM
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You're a bad advert for sunshine. Wear a hat and drink some water.
Aye, right you are. Put down your red top, cease with the Daily Mail and Herald led view of life, Traynor and his ilk are meaningless these days. Times have moved on and left you and them behind. Brendan Rodgers gave an interview on TV. He spoke plain English with his own mouth, without a gun at his head. If you can't understand what he said by listening to him, that's fine. But he said it. If you can't deal with it, I don't really care.
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As Waddell says, "it' not a done deal but the ball is rolling".
Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon Waddell Gordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere.
Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172
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As Waddell says, "it' not a done deal but the ball is rolling". Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon WaddellGordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172 He's a fud
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Gordon Waddell can go eff himself.
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As Waddell says, "it' not a done deal but the ball is rolling". Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon WaddellGordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172
He's a fud Yep, but he might not be wrong.
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1 Jul 2018, 10:36 AM
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As Waddell says, "it' not a done deal but the ball is rolling". Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon WaddellGordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172
He's a fud
Yep, but he might not be wrong. Agreed.
Everything he says in that article is common knowledge - perhaps with the exception that we should accept £25m. We all think more.
But if/when he goes (however much I pray he stays) Tierney will be a masterclass for Celtic's model - produce high-quality youngsters and move them on for astronomical fees ala Ajax in the 1990s. Then we can start the conveyor belt all over again. Creative scouting, youth development, buy low/sell high. The only difference is with £100m in the bank, we may not get so much leeway with transfer fees/wages as Waddell notes.
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Still think there will be those close to him asking him to explore whats out there knowing than on a personal level KT is unlikely to leave next season on verge of 9 or then summer after on verge of 10.
effectively if KT doesn't move this summer the chances of him imo moving before summer 2021 are low.
Once 10 is done KT can easily go that summer, BR will go, we'll see a new manager and will be a major change for the club... KT will be 24 y/o, thats the age he should be thinking about going.
On a personal level having met KT a few times before he became a Celtic player and during I'd worry given his personality him going to a city on his own at 21 y/o; he's a bit of a home bird with his family and pals... 2-3 years to mature as a person would also see him in a better position to be a success elsewhere and mean he could be part of 10 and leave the club in a certain way.
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Yeah we’re gonna lose everybody and no matter how much money we get in we won’t be able to replace them either - ahhhhhhh
It’s over - hope you all enjoyed it - the end is nigh
The press trying to sell our best players and move on our managers that are successful is something you can set your watch by
Next they’ll be telling us Rogic staying shows a lack of ambition and that PSG really didn’t rate Edouard anyway
And yet Another teams mediocrity is heralded as managerial genius
Transparent as - these hacks would love KT to leave because he’s magic - not to see him ‘develop’
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Yeah we’re gonna lose everybody and no matter how much money we get in we won’t be able to replace them either - ahhhhhhh
It’s over - hope you all enjoyed it - the end is nigh
The press trying to sell our best players and move on our managers that are successful is something you can set your watch by
Next they’ll be telling us Rogic staying shows a lack of ambition and that PSG really didn’t rate Edouard anyway
And yet Another teams mediocrity is heralded as managerial genius
Transparent as - these hacks would love KT to leave because he’s magic - not to see him ‘develop’ It's a grand old conspiracy to play for.
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Yeah we’re gonna lose everybody and no matter how much money we get in we won’t be able to replace them either - ahhhhhhh
It’s over - hope you all enjoyed it - the end is nigh
The press trying to sell our best players and move on our managers that are successful is something you can set your watch by
Next they’ll be telling us Rogic staying shows a lack of ambition and that PSG really didn’t rate Edouard anyway
And yet Another teams mediocrity is heralded as managerial genius
Transparent as - these hacks would love KT to leave because he’s magic - not to see him ‘develop’
It's a grand old conspiracy to play for. Doesn’t mean I’m wrong
You think we will get a piece saying KT should stay because he still young and is one of the best prospects we’ve produced in years and it improves the standard of the league and he gets loads of euro experience too ?
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon WaddellGordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172
Yep, but he might not be wrong.
Agreed. Everything he says in that article is common knowledge - perhaps with the exception that we should accept £25m. We all think more. But if/when he goes (however much I pray he stays) Tierney will be a masterclass for Celtic's model - produce high-quality youngsters and move them on for astronomical fees ala Ajax in the 1990s. Then we can start the conveyor belt all over again. Creative scouting, youth development, buy low/sell high. The only difference is with £100m in the bank, we may not get so much leeway with transfer fees/wages as Waddell notes. Tierney will be an anomaly to that model. He's a freak of our youth system. We can't just "start the conveyor belt all over again" because we could be waiting 30 years for us to develop a player of that standard and 50 years for a player with that added connection to the support.
It would be an extremely brave move for the club to sell KT for anything less than £50M. That's a fee we won't get at this stage, but I don't imagine KT is in any real rush to leave prior to the 10.
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Yeah we’re gonna lose everybody and no matter how much money we get in we won’t be able to replace them either - ahhhhhhh
It’s over - hope you all enjoyed it - the end is nigh
The press trying to sell our best players and move on our managers that are successful is something you can set your watch by
Next they’ll be telling us Rogic staying shows a lack of ambition and that PSG really didn’t rate Edouard anyway
And yet Another teams mediocrity is heralded as managerial genius
Transparent as - these hacks would love KT to leave because he’s magic - not to see him ‘develop’
It's a grand old conspiracy to play for.
Doesn’t mean I’m wrong You think we will get a piece saying KT should stay because he still young and is one of the best prospects we’ve produced in years and it improves the standard of the league and he gets loads of euro experience too ? I want him to stay, but there comes a point we need to hold our hands up whats best for KT and the club. He will get a family line changing offer and we don't need a £30-40m rated left-back to beat Sevco. He's currently doing the things you say he is; playing experience including in Europe and improving the standard of the league. And Celtic producing a talent like KT is amazing for the reputation of the club's youth department.
But you are wrong its a big media conspiracy. BR has given a blunt interview reiterating what we all know: if we get a major bid it will be received and most players will accept life changing offers. We can't offer the wages or playing environment that major leagues do.
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1 Jul 2018, 11:00 AM
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep Kieran Tierney loves Celtic but he needs to leave to reach his potential - Gordon WaddellGordon reckons the left back would love to stick around in Glasgow but knows himself he needs to test himself elsewhere. Spoiler: click to toggle ByGordon Waddell “He could go his entire career knowing nothing but what he knows right now. “Why would you give up that level of contentment? “Or would it diminish? The football satisfaction wane? Will Kieran Tierney eventually feel he needs to challenge himself to find out if he can be a big fish in a big pond rather than a small one? “Your gut tells you the answers will eventually be yes if the choice is ever his to jump before he’s pushed.” Those are the closing words of this column back in early November. Just after Tierney signed a six-year contract that appeared to nail him down for 10 in a row and beyond. He said then he only wished it was longer. Admirable sentiments from an absolute diamond of a boy. If everything stayed the same for the next decade, he’s the type who wouldn’t have a single regret. But life never stands still. Sooner or later the real world slaps you around the head. That’s where Celtic and Tierney now both find themselves. Someone is testing their resolve. Maybe a year earlier than they’d thought or hoped. Or maybe not. Since signing that deal and leaving Raymond Sparkes, his long-time agent, and signing for the Stellar Group to look after his affairs, there has been an inevitability about it. If Everton’s £25million bid materialises the smart money is on neither club nor player saying no. It’s what Celtic do. They can’t be criticised for developing talent that rakes in this kind of money. Tierney’s agreement will maybe come as more of a surprise to Celtic fans who think he should be knocking offers back with his heart rather than his head. Especially to a club like Everton, one they’ll regard as inferior to Celtic. But this is an environmental issue. He’s coming from Scottish football and that carries a certain perception. He may only double or treble his dough now but Everton are a stepping stone – same as Southampton was for Virgil Van Dijk and Hull was for Andy Robertson. And despite his love of the Hoops it’s believed Kieran knows that to reach his potential he can’t stick around. He’ll have watched Robertson grace a Champions League final and set the Premier League alight – and rightly will believe he can do the same. Brendan Rodgers acknowledges it. Read his quotes from Austria in the papers yesterday and you can hear an audible sigh between the lines. It puts the club at a crossroads. Especially if someone else comes in for Moussa Dembele. It’s all well and good having £50m in the bank. But in this day and age quality replacements will expect wages that are double where Celtic want to be. And if you pay that, you’ve set a benchmark for every negotiation that follows. It’s a dilemma they’d been hoping for and dreading. It’s not a done deal yet but the ball’s rolling – and it could be impossible to stop. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kieran-tierney-loves-celtic-needs-12829172
Agreed. Everything he says in that article is common knowledge - perhaps with the exception that we should accept £25m. We all think more. But if/when he goes (however much I pray he stays) Tierney will be a masterclass for Celtic's model - produce high-quality youngsters and move them on for astronomical fees ala Ajax in the 1990s. Then we can start the conveyor belt all over again. Creative scouting, youth development, buy low/sell high. The only difference is with £100m in the bank, we may not get so much leeway with transfer fees/wages as Waddell notes.
Tierney will be an anomaly to that model. He's a freak of our youth system. We can't just "start the conveyor belt all over again" because we could be waiting 30 years for us to develop a player of that standard and 50 years for a player with that added connection to the support. It would be an extremely brave move for the club to sell KT for anything less than £50M. That's a fee we won't get at this stage, but I don't imagine KT is in any real rush to leave prior to the 10. I agree he's exceptional, of course. But that's the point. We don't need a £50m rated leftback to beat our nearest competitors.
And I don't accept we can't produce good players on a regular basis. Might not be KT's level. But we've got our act together at developing players again and he becomes the posterboy for that model.
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1 Jul 2018, 11:00 AM
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The Record reported the Everton bid yeaterday with the headline “Trouble in Paradise”. Surprised there were no cracked crests.
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1 Jul 2018, 11:19 AM
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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If you go back two and a half years to the start of this thread, it's evident how he's progressed in the eyes of the support. When he first broke through people were worried about an innate lack of athleticism. Now look at him, pace, power, and with the ability to play in several positions. Imagine what he'll be like with another two years under his belt.
Taking a bid in the region of 25M is selling the club short. A similar price for Dembele is also too low. If clubs want Tierney they should be told that they're buying the talent of the player and not the reputation of the league and to get real with their valuation. Van Dijk went for almost 6 times what we initially received from Southampton in a couple of years. There is no reason that Tierney wouldn't be in that bracket if Everton were to punt him in a season.
The best thing, for Tierney and Celtic, is to bolster our defence right now. A decent run in Europe would see his value increase just as it would with everyone in the side. I'm never really bothered about transfer fees but when the manager talk about 'astronomical bids' then I'd hope he and the club mean something way more that any supposed 25M.
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