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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,654 Views)
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He's not effing leaving.
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30 Jun 2018, 01:53 PM
Larsson didn't go for money ffs.
Was about to posting something similar. Larrson moved after seven (largely) fruitful years and he wanted to test himself at the very highest level. Dalgliesh had won a lot and stuck around for a long time before he moved to Liverpool.

KT's situation isn't comparable. He's only had regular first-team football for three seasons for a start. He's done brilliantly so far and he has the chance to be here for TIAR. I don't think that he'll pass that up and time would still be on his side if he moved on at that point. IMO, the season after a tenth title will be an inflection point for the club as a whole; I suspect we'll have a new manager and a host of comings and goings from the squad too. If KT decided to leave after such a major milestone then I wouldn't begrudge him that.
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30 Jun 2018, 01:53 PM
Larsson didn't go for money ffs.
he was one of the highest paid players in the uk with us though. might have been different had some been offering 3 or 4 times his wage
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16324606.with-everton-set-to-submit-25m-bid-for-kieran-tierney-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers-says-it-will-be-hard-to-keep-him/[English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





Look

I’m happy with the view that we are not actively trying to sell KT

If we are, and were with Dembele, then that's an absolute disgrace and I can't understand why it would be accepted. It's one thing to allow players to move on at the right time when they want to. But actively looking to punt them, against their will, to mediocre sides, for cash we shouldn't need (given the substantial difference between money brought in and money spent) is a sign that something isn't right.
KT is great, he's one of us I get it, but objectively it is ridiculous to have 30m+ tied up in a left back, given the values of the rest of the squad.

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30 Jun 2018, 02:29 PM
suzieghirl10
30 Jun 2018, 01:53 PM
Larsson didn't go for money ffs.
he was one of the highest paid players in the uk with us though. might have been different had some been offering 3 or 4 times his wage
45 k a week wasn't it?

Changed effing days indeed

EPL reserves are probably on that
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30 Jun 2018, 02:23 PM
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30 Jun 2018, 01:53 PM
Larsson didn't go for money ffs.
Was about to posting something similar. Larrson moved after seven (largely) fruitful years and he wanted to test himself at the very highest level. Dalgliesh had won a lot and stuck around for a long time before he moved to Liverpool.

KT's situation isn't comparable. He's only had regular first-team football for three seasons for a start. He's done brilliantly so far and he has the chance to be here for TIAR. I don't think that he'll pass that up and time would still be on his side if he moved on at that point. IMO, the season after a tenth title will be an inflection point for the club as a whole; I suspect we'll have a new manager and a host of comings and goings from the squad too. If KT decided to leave after such a major milestone then I wouldn't begrudge him that.
Two effing belters in there.
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wow, a hairshirt on a day like this?

we are not actively trying to sell Tierney, but we can't stop other clubs sniffing around. Oh, and things are as right as they have ever been.
Didn't you say just this morning that it's a good way to 'flush out interest'?



no, I said it'll be interesting to see who this offer ( if it exists) flushes out. Quite different from actively trying to sell KT.
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He’s a bigger fan of the bhoys than anyone I know, he won’t be leaving anytime soon

IF and it’s a huge If he ever does exist to leave it won’t be to a team of Everton’s standing
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Rodgers to me is being realistic. We play in Scotland and when opportunities arise elsewhere players could leave. That's just the reality of the situation.
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30 Jun 2018, 11:56 AM
Maley’s - I would like Tierney to stay for ever and improve as a Celtic player.

However In my time as a supporter I’ve seen all of my favourite players go. Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Larsson. All went and the common denominator was money. When Tierney goes money will be the deciding factor both for the club and for Kieran no matter how much he loves the club.

It’s just modern football life and we should be used to it by now.
Larsson left for money Aye? Give yourself peace FM. If he had wanted to leave for money he would have left years before he did.

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30 Jun 2018, 11:56 AM
Maley’s - I would like Tierney to stay for ever and improve as a Celtic player.

However In my time as a supporter I’ve seen all of my favourite players go. Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Larsson. All went and the common denominator was money. When Tierney goes money will be the deciding factor both for the club and for Kieran no matter how much he loves the club.

It’s just modern football life and we should be used to it by now.
Larsson left for money Aye? Give yourself peace FM. If he had wanted to leave for money he would have left years before he did.

:nono:
He went to Helsingborgs immediately after Barcelona whilst still good enough to be going on loan to Man Utd FFS. The guy was never a money grabber in a million years. :lol:
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30 Jun 2018, 11:56 AM
Maley’s - I would like Tierney to stay for ever and improve as a Celtic player.

However In my time as a supporter I’ve seen all of my favourite players go. Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Larsson. All went and the common denominator was money. When Tierney goes money will be the deciding factor both for the club and for Kieran no matter how much he loves the club.

It’s just modern football life and we should be used to it by now.
Larsson left for money Aye? Give yourself peace FM. If he had wanted to leave for money he would have left years before he did.

:nono:
He went to Helsingborgs immediately after Barcelona whilst still good enough to be going on loan to Man Utd FFS. The guy was never a money grabber in a million years. :lol:
Precisely. This has all got out of hand. Every carrot needs to get a grip, there's no way at all KT is going anywhere near Everton FFS!
Probably a Sellick Da comment but he's one of us :arrr:
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30 Jun 2018, 07:24 AM
Jeezo. Dying media, desperate for Sevco to win something, must try very hard to unnerve and destabilise Celtic and its support.

Keep trying you desperate, tired old hacks. Your now desperate organs aren’t even fit for chips now.
Finally some sense :thumbsup:

Tierney will be the captain for 10IAR
Aye, imagine reporting words that have come right out of the manager's mouth in a TV interview.

Suppose they should all just have ignored that.
You don’t get context, being led, missled, or even being made to look silly do you. Just like most hacks.

Brendon is good at leading the SMSM, in fact Celtic are nowadays. Let the fools extract what they think they hear or even write what the would love to hear. I for one love the way our club does its business now.

We dont do lamb dinners.
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30 Jun 2018, 12:01 PM
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Frank you seem determined to see him go for sub 20 million, why is that?

Take Maddsion as 25 million starting point and give us your "logic"
Maley’s - on your point we need to stop comparing transfers from Scotland to internal transfers in England even from the Championship.
Tierney is only worth what someone is willing to pay. I hope we get £50m or more but it’s not gonna happen.

I’m sorry for coming across as netive to some. I feel I’m being realistic.
We absolutely should be comparing our transfer fees to the Championship.

Players are worth what the two clubs involved agree they are worth. When an English club comes in for one of our players, part of that calculation on Celtic’s side should be benchmarking against what English clubs are paying.

We now have enough of a track record of selling quality to the EPL to push our asking prices up. I absolutely agree that we won’t be getting £50 million for Tierney but we should be testing £25 million+. Maddison, who was anonymous in Scotland 18 months ago, is now a £25 million player. We shouldn’t ignore that.
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Frank you seem determined to see him go for sub 20 million, why is that?

Take Maddsion as 25 million starting point and give us your "logic"
Maley’s - on your point we need to stop comparing transfers from Scotland to internal transfers in England even from the Championship.
Tierney is only worth what someone is willing to pay. I hope we get £50m or more but it’s not gonna happen.

I’m sorry for coming across as netive to some. I feel I’m being realistic.
We absolutely should be comparing our transfer fees to the Championship.

Players are worth what the two clubs involved agree they are worth. When an English club comes in for one of our players, part of that calculation on Celtic’s side should be benchmarking against what English clubs are paying.

We now have enough of a track record of selling quality to the EPL to push our asking prices up. I absolutely agree that we won’t be getting £50 million for Tierney but we should be testing £25 million+. Maddison, who was anonymous in Scotland 18 months ago, is now a £25 million player. We shouldn’t ignore that.
I agree. The days of us selling our top talent down the road for peanuts is well and truly over.

If he continues developing at his current rate, performs well in Europe and with Scotland then two years down the road he could quite easily be worth £40m. There’s not many quality left backs kicking about, certainly not in their early twenties with the potential he has.

Right now, I’d say £20-25m is more than fair, given as you said Maddison is a £25m player down there.
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We have Brendan Rodgers. He knows what's what. He knows a players value down there and he knows how good Tierney is. KT isn't going anywhere on the cheap.
There's a buzz around KT. We are aware of that and will work that in our favor. 25 mill is a start. It's not where it ends. Particularly when you look at what we scalped Southampton for recently.

I wouldn't compare all our transfers to championship fees. Unlike Maddison KT is a ready made EPL player. We'll get ours.
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30 Jun 2018, 01:53 PM
Larsson didn't go for money ffs.
Was about to posting something similar. Larrson moved after seven (largely) fruitful years and he wanted to test himself at the very highest level. Dalgliesh had won a lot and stuck around for a long time before he moved to Liverpool.

KT's situation isn't comparable. He's only had regular first-team football for three seasons for a start. He's done brilliantly so far and he has the chance to be here for TIAR. I don't think that he'll pass that up and time would still be on his side if he moved on at that point. IMO, the season after a tenth title will be an inflection point for the club as a whole; I suspect we'll have a new manager and a host of comings and goings from the squad too. If KT decided to leave after such a major milestone then I wouldn't begrudge him that.
Two effing belters in there.
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Aye, imagine reporting words that have come right out of the manager's mouth in a TV interview.

Suppose they should all just have ignored that.
You don’t get context, being led, missled, or even being made to look silly do you. Just like most hacks.

Brendon is good at leading the SMSM, in fact Celtic are nowadays. Let the fools extract what they think they hear or even write what the would love to hear. I for one love the way our club does its business now.

We dont do lamb dinners.
I'm being made to look silly?

Very good, captain sensible. You read your own posts?

I'm going by the manager's words and the posts of a few people more in the know than I am about anything.

If the manager doesn't want speculation, he doesn't lead it. He's absolutely opened up the discussion here, not anyone else. The same thing happened with Dembele in January and if you read posts from someone on here who is close to his situation, it wasn't Dembele who was driving at a move to Brighton in January.

Until yesterday, I would have said there was absolutely no chance of Tierney leaving any time soon. In fact, I'd argued that he's the epitome of a one-club player.
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Maley’s - I would like Tierney to stay for ever and improve as a Celtic player.

However In my time as a supporter I’ve seen all of my favourite players go. Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Larsson. All went and the common denominator was money. When Tierney goes money will be the deciding factor both for the club and for Kieran no matter how much he loves the club.

It’s just modern football life and we should be used to it by now.
Larsson left for money Aye? Give yourself peace FM. If he had wanted to leave for money he would have left years before he did.

:nono:
He went to Helsingborgs immediately after Barcelona whilst still good enough to be going on loan to Man Utd FFS. The guy was never a money grabber in a million years. :lol:
Money influences most decisions a pro footballer will make. It certainly influenced Larsson’s decision to stay at Celtic rather than leave. Tierney would be away too if he didn’t get paida big pile of money.

All of which is absolutely fine, they’re not charity volunteers.
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I honestly doubt he'd go to Everton.

If he's leaving what he has it'll be for more than Everton and what money they might have.
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