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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,655 Views)
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Maley’s - I would like Tierney to stay for ever and improve as a Celtic player.

However In my time as a supporter I’ve seen all of my favourite players go. Macari, Hay, Dalglish, Larsson. All went and the common denominator was money. When Tierney goes money will be the deciding factor both for the club and for Kieran no matter how much he loves the club.

It’s just modern football life and we should be used to it by now.
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Genuinely interested in your "logic" about an expected price though.
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Frank you seem determined to see him go for sub 20 million, why is that?

Take Maddsion as 25 million starting point and give us your "logic"
Maley’s - on your point we need to stop comparing transfers from Scotland to internal transfers in England even from the Championship.
Tierney is only worth what someone is willing to pay. I hope we get £50m or more but it’s not gonna happen.

I’m sorry for coming across as netive to some. I feel I’m being realistic.
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That should be ‘negative to some’
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Jeezo - horses very easily spooked on here sometimes

BR basically saying he can’t promise a player will never leave and when they do it’s a combination of factors - like it was with Armstrong no doubt - and before we know it KT is going to Everton and some folk are worried

I’ll bet my left testicle he’s going nowhere soon
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I think Tierney realizes doing the ten is a once in a lifetime opportunity and wants to be here for that. He'd still be a very young player and worth a lot of money if he were to move after that.
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£50 million for starters.... We didn't start this stupid game. But we're not mugs either.
We’re not getting £50m for Tierney. We might get a little more than the Everton offer but whatever the headline figure is it will include a lot of add ons.
Rodgers comments smack of someone being honest with the support and preparing us for the inevitable.
I hope the club are focusing on squad strengthing because a fee for Tierney will not compensate for the loss of revenue and prestige that will result from a failure to qualify for the champions league.
Why? This add-on chat. You keep mentioning it.

Why on earth should Celtic not ask for and receive 30/40 million up front.
Everton paid 35 million for the boy Keane from Burnley.

We've an established international, champions league player. Proven winner on a six year deal with no inclination to leave. Plus he's only 21.

Why would Celtic accept 15 million plus addons for that considering the boy Madison moved for 25 m last week.

There's no way we'd accept it and nor should we.

Edit to add. We just got 7m for a wantaway player in the last 12 months of his deal. We don't accept any offers as a club
Add ons are a big part of transfers nowadays. For example, Liverpool didn’t get 140m for Coutinho. They got £90m with the promise of more when certain targets were met.

Anyway I’m now out of the Tierney debate cause it will go in circles. I hope and pray he stays but if he goes then so be it.

I hope the club are focusing hard on recruitment because we are already deficient at the back and Tierney exiting will weaken us further. - if it happens.
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Jeezo - horses very easily spooked on here sometimes

BR basically saying he can’t promise a player will never leave and when they do it’s a combination of factors - like it was with Armstrong no doubt - and before we know it KT is going to Everton and some folk are worried

I’ll bet my left testicle he’s going nowhere soon
Don't think it's just that. People saying that there are folk close to him putting pressure on him to move, which puts a different slant on it.

Hope he's still enough of a rebellious youth to resist that kind of stuff.
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Jeezo - horses very easily spooked on here sometimes

BR basically saying he can’t promise a player will never leave and when they do it’s a combination of factors - like it was with Armstrong no doubt - and before we know it KT is going to Everton and some folk are worried

I’ll bet my left testicle he’s going nowhere soon
Don't think it's just that. People saying that there are folk close to him putting pressure on him to move, which puts a different slant on it.

Hope he's still enough of a rebellious youth to resist that kind of stuff.
Who?

KT said himself - he’s here for the long term - he wants to be our captain

Then he’ll move on - he’ll stull be worth mega bucks with some more CL experience and international caps

The headlines on this are misleading - they all hint at Rodgers preparing for life with out KT to admitting it’ll be hard to hold onto him

BR is smart enough - he’s talking about replacing before improving - sounds more like he’s letting the board know - we’ve more to do to improve

While All sevco related stories are about instant respect for Stevie G ad the Wheelie Bins.

Scott Arfield is the change the mighty sevco have been waiting for and so on

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£50 million for starters.... We didn't start this stupid game. But we're not mugs either.
We’re not getting £50m for Tierney. We might get a little more than the Everton offer but whatever the headline figure is it will include a lot of add ons.
Rodgers comments smack of someone being honest with the support and preparing us for the inevitable.
I hope the club are focusing on squad strengthing because a fee for Tierney will not compensate for the loss of revenue and prestige that will result from a failure to qualify for the champions league.
We've got an outstanding young player, who is under a long contract and very settled and happy at the club. We'll be calling all the shots on this one.
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Jeezo - horses very easily spooked on here sometimes

BR basically saying he can’t promise a player will never leave and when they do it’s a combination of factors - like it was with Armstrong no doubt - and before we know it KT is going to Everton and some folk are worried

I’ll bet my left testicle he’s going nowhere soon
Don't think it's just that. People saying that there are folk close to him putting pressure on him to move, which puts a different slant on it.

Hope he's still enough of a rebellious youth to resist that kind of stuff.
Who?

KT said himself - he’s here for the long term - he wants to be our captain

Then he’ll move on - he’ll stull be worth mega bucks with some more CL experience and international caps

The headlines on this are misleading - they all hint at Rodgers preparing for life with out KT to admitting it’ll be hard to hold onto him

BR is smart enough - he’s talking about replacing before improving - sounds more like he’s letting the board know - we’ve more to do to improve

While All sevco related stories are about instant respect for Stevie G ad the Wheelie Bins.

Scott Arfield is the change the mighty sevco have been waiting for and so on

It's mentioned and/or alluded to in the other thread by more than one poster.

On the headlines, they're not misleading. The quotes are direct from the manager. What headlines would you expect?

As said elsewhere, this all seems a re-run of the Dembele situation when the player didn't want to leave for Brighton but the club were more than willing to cash in for £20million.

We're not in a position where we need to be selling out best players. So if we are actively looking to sell players who are not agitating for it, then that's a problem as far as I can see. This is different to players who come in and want to move after a year or two.

Couldn't give a eff about Scott Arfield, Sevco or wheelie bins in relation to this story.

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If Tierney left already I’d finally know how people felt when Dalglish left.
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Who?

KT said himself - he’s here for the long term - he wants to be our captain

Then he’ll move on - he’ll stull be worth mega bucks with some more CL experience and international caps

The headlines on this are misleading - they all hint at Rodgers preparing for life with out KT to admitting it’ll be hard to hold onto him

BR is smart enough - he’s talking about replacing before improving - sounds more like he’s letting the board know - we’ve more to do to improve

While All sevco related stories are about instant respect for Stevie G ad the Wheelie Bins.

Scott Arfield is the change the mighty sevco have been waiting for and so on

It's mentioned and/or alluded to in the other thread by more than one poster.

On the headlines, they're not misleading. The quotes are direct from the manager. What headlines would you expect?

As said elsewhere, this all seems a re-run of the Dembele situation when the player didn't want to leave for Brighton but the club were more than willing to cash in for £20million.

We're not in a position where we need to be selling out best players. So if we are actively looking to sell players who are not agitating for it, then that's a problem as far as I can see. This is different to players who come in and want to move after a year or two.

Couldn't give a eff about Scott Arfield, Sevco or wheelie bins in relation to this story.

No - you do seem to believe the club are actively trying to sell KT even though he doesn’t want to go and we’ve got plenty of CL cash in the back - I just don’t believe that for a second - the point BR makes is that if someone offers you silly cash then you need to look at it, no matter who the player is - 25 million for KT is silly cash - and not the good kind of silly cash that merits being considered

This is what BR said

“Of course we would love and we want to keep our players. Ideally they wouldn’t go but I can never say realistically that everyone will definitely stay because the club may get an offer they can’t refuse“

He never states he preparing to be without him as one headline suggested

The point about sevco is about the wider media narrative - that context is relevant as it is every pre season when they tell us out top players are leaving for less than they are worth

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16324606.with-everton-set-to-submit-25m-bid-for-kieran-tierney-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers-says-it-will-be-hard-to-keep-him/

This headline - is misleading
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It's mentioned and/or alluded to in the other thread by more than one poster.

On the headlines, they're not misleading. The quotes are direct from the manager. What headlines would you expect?

As said elsewhere, this all seems a re-run of the Dembele situation when the player didn't want to leave for Brighton but the club were more than willing to cash in for £20million.

We're not in a position where we need to be selling out best players. So if we are actively looking to sell players who are not agitating for it, then that's a problem as far as I can see. This is different to players who come in and want to move after a year or two.

Couldn't give a eff about Scott Arfield, Sevco or wheelie bins in relation to this story.

No - you do seem to believe the club are actively trying to sell KT even though he doesn’t want to go and we’ve got plenty of CL cash in the back - I just don’t believe that for a second - the point BR makes is that if someone offers you silly cash then you need to look at it, no matter who the player is - 25 million for KT is silly cash - and not the good kind of silly cash that merits being considered

This is what BR said

“Of course we would love and we want to keep our players. Ideally they wouldn’t go but I can never say realistically that everyone will definitely stay because the club may get an offer they can’t refuse“

He never states he preparing to be without him as one headline suggested

The point about sevco is about the wider media narrative - that context is relevant as it is every pre season when they tell us out top players are leaving for less than they are worth

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16324606.with-everton-set-to-submit-25m-bid-for-kieran-tierney-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers-says-it-will-be-hard-to-keep-him/

This headline - is misleading
Is it misleading?

"Rodgers said: “It will be down to the club in the end. If an astronomical fee comes in for a player and he has wages to match that, the transfer window can dictate he may have to go."

"“But I can’t deny that, if he’s playing at that [English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





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No - you do seem to believe the club are actively trying to sell KT even though he doesn’t want to go and we’ve got plenty of CL cash in the back - I just don’t believe that for a second - the point BR makes is that if someone offers you silly cash then you need to look at it, no matter who the player is - 25 million for KT is silly cash - and not the good kind of silly cash that merits being considered

This is what BR said

“Of course we would love and we want to keep our players. Ideally they wouldn’t go but I can never say realistically that everyone will definitely stay because the club may get an offer they can’t refuse“

He never states he preparing to be without him as one headline suggested

The point about sevco is about the wider media narrative - that context is relevant as it is every pre season when they tell us out top players are leaving for less than they are worth

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16324606.with-everton-set-to-submit-25m-bid-for-kieran-tierney-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers-says-it-will-be-hard-to-keep-him/

This headline - is misleading
Is it misleading?

"Rodgers said: “It will be down to the club in the end. If an astronomical fee comes in for a player and he has wages to match that, the transfer window can dictate he may have to go."

"“But I can’t deny that, if he’s playing at that [English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





Look

I’m happy with the view that we are not actively trying to sell KT

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Is it misleading?

"Rodgers said: “It will be down to the club in the end. If an astronomical fee comes in for a player and he has wages to match that, the transfer window can dictate he may have to go."

"“But I can’t deny that, if he’s playing at that [English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





Look

I’m happy with the view that we are not actively trying to sell KT

If we are, and were with Dembele, then that's an absolute disgrace and I can't understand why it would be accepted. It's one thing to allow players to move on at the right time when they want to. But actively looking to punt them, against their will, to mediocre sides, for cash we shouldn't need (given the substantial difference between money brought in and money spent) is a sign that something isn't right.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/16324606.with-everton-set-to-submit-25m-bid-for-kieran-tierney-celtic-manager-brendan-rodgers-says-it-will-be-hard-to-keep-him/[English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





Look

I’m happy with the view that we are not actively trying to sell KT

If we are, and were with Dembele, then that's an absolute disgrace and I can't understand why it would be accepted. It's one thing to allow players to move on at the right time when they want to. But actively looking to punt them, against their will, to mediocre sides, for cash we shouldn't need (given the substantial difference between money brought in and money spent) is a sign that something isn't right.
wow, a hairshirt on a day like this?

we are not actively trying to sell Tierney, but we can't stop other clubs sniffing around. Oh, and things are as right as they have ever been.
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Is it misleading?

"Rodgers said: “It will be down to the club in the end. If an astronomical fee comes in for a player and he has wages to match that, the transfer window can dictate he may have to go."

"“But I can’t deny that, if he’s playing at that [English Premier League] level week in and week out, that wouldn’t improve him also and make him better."

Asked if it would be better for Tierney to stay at Celtic at this stage of his career to help his development, Rodgers continued: “Yeah but I’ve also worked in the Premier League and I know the development he could have there.

What headline do you expect to see from that and the wider quotes?

If you think it's all about Scottish papers, have a look at the Merseyside ones or wider English ones.

As already mentioned, we tried to punt Dembele in January and the player didn't want to go to Brighton. If you think we wouldn't be at it again, good luck on that front.





Look

I’m happy with the view that we are not actively trying to sell KT

Hope you're right.

But as has been mentioned, there are people agitating for this and not necessarily the player himself.

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If we are, and were with Dembele, then that's an absolute disgrace and I can't understand why it would be accepted. It's one thing to allow players to move on at the right time when they want to. But actively looking to punt them, against their will, to mediocre sides, for cash we shouldn't need (given the substantial difference between money brought in and money spent) is a sign that something isn't right.
wow, a hairshirt on a day like this?

we are not actively trying to sell Tierney, but we can't stop other clubs sniffing around. Oh, and things are as right as they have ever been.
Didn't you say just this morning that it's a good way to 'flush out interest'?



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