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| Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season | |
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| Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,656 Views) | |
| GoKartMozart | 30 Jun 2018, 10:21 AM Post #4701 |
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Occasional Substitute
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i don't think he'll go. His mates will start calling him Toffee. That alone should be enough to scupper any deal. |
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| Ned Rise | 30 Jun 2018, 10:25 AM Post #4702 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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I know we're a selling club, but actively punting players against their wishes is what I'm talking about. I know VVD and the like will use us as a stepping stone, even someone like Armstrong who's not in that calibre, and on both occasions, this has worked out well for the club and player. What I don't like is the club trying to punt players with three or in Tierney's case 5 years to go on their contract. There is absolutely no way in the world that anyone can think that this is him at his peak in terms of attractiveness to a rich English club. A good CL or Europa League campaign would do more for his value than flushing out bids. All we'd be doing is unsettling him, just as we did with Dembele. But there seems to be as much chance of seriously improving the defence as there is of winning the lottery. We're now in our fifth window under BR and we're going into the qualifiers with half a team back there, gambling everything on qualification. We manage to improve midfield and the forward line, we actively pursue players in midfield even when we've got about 11 on our books already, and yet we punt Tierney's back up (due to 'personal problems with agents in England', so read into if he'd rather have not gone) and we go into qualifiers with half-fit midfielders filling in at centre half, rookies and others who have barely had a rest for two years. If we don't sort that, maybe people are right saying playing defence in team suffering record breaking defeats in Europe time and again will do him no good, because we could possibly have gone into double figures there. But that's up to the club to show some ambition by backing the manager in that area, and up to the manager to get the right players for his system, rather than wasting money on trying to develop the likes of Hendry. He may come good, but in that position, Celtic need a player to be good, now. Fair dos about your points on the stadium. Floodlights looked bright enough to me. Better nick than some clubs we play in Europe, I'd have thought, but if they're not meeting the UEFA standard that's that. |
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| tonyjaa-csc | 30 Jun 2018, 10:26 AM Post #4703 |
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Older than dirt
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Finally some sense Tierney will be the captain for 10IAR |
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| nails | 30 Jun 2018, 10:27 AM Post #4704 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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So he won't be pushing for the move but if we accept a bid he's gone basically. The same Tierney that turned down Arsenal 2 years ago
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| Ned Rise | 30 Jun 2018, 10:44 AM Post #4705 |
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These boots were made for hunbustin'
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Aye, imagine reporting words that have come right out of the manager's mouth in a TV interview. Suppose they should all just have ignored that. |
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| cfc88cfc | 30 Jun 2018, 10:48 AM Post #4706 |
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First-team starter
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The media are all at the training camp in Austria so maybe he'll get asked about it after the game today |
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| Covcelt | 30 Jun 2018, 10:54 AM Post #4707 |
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He'll only go if Paddy signs for them |
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| Larbertbhoy | 30 Jun 2018, 10:56 AM Post #4708 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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We all probably accept he will move on, I just hope we can find a way of keeping him for another two or three seasons. The thought of trying to replace him is bloody scary. |
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| The Wizard of Tim | 30 Jun 2018, 11:17 AM Post #4709 |
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Reads like little Englander journalist guesswork to me. Bet he does not even know what country KT is in right now. |
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| kewlcelt | 30 Jun 2018, 11:20 AM Post #4710 |
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Considering retirement
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There must be something in it if BR has come and said what he did yesterday. |
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| nails | 30 Jun 2018, 11:21 AM Post #4711 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Not that it means anything but I'm a bit surprised the BBC haven't been reporting it. They seemed to be in the know about Armstrong's move |
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| Maleys Spirit | 30 Jun 2018, 11:22 AM Post #4712 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Brendans words just seem to be a slightly more elaborate rehash of stuff he has said before about other players TBH. I`m also of the mind that I`d rather watch the best players we can keep,especially "one of our own" than buckets of cash on the pitch,shiny lights or a nice walk up to the park,ICGAF about that stuff. Keeping players like Larsson and Mcstay may no longer be possible in this money era but the feel good factor that keeping them gave us is immeasurable in money terms. We are in a time and place where we are now selling fringe players to Southampton with a year to go on their contract for 8 million quid. We don`t need to sell anyone financially/to balance any books unless it really is stupid, "can`t reasonably refuse it" type offers and we can`t force a player to go if his heart`s not in it, which as many suspect happened with Dembele last season. You would also be looking at decimating a defence in CL qualifying process, jeapordising an estimated £40 million next season minimum, due to new CL moneys.New right back, new left back, possible Boyata replacement etc The only part of Brendans dialogue I`m uncomfortable with is that the EPL is some sort of nirvana for all players, it`s not. It`s a big ugly rich shampooehole into which some players and managers disappear forever if they make the wrong choices. (some of them are happy to disappear into in fairness, money for nothing) Like many I love the kid and genuinely don`t want to see him go, but if he did/does I`d like to see him move to somewhere exciting, when he has acheived everything and anything he can here, which still some way off. |
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| 20Glasgow_Bhoy06 | 30 Jun 2018, 11:28 AM Post #4713 |
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Unseen Fenian Hand
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Brendan talked an absolute power of shampooe while he was at Liverpool, and he still ocassionally does it at Celtic too. Great manager but susceptible to making an absolute carrot of it at times. I think this is one of them. Edited by 20Glasgow_Bhoy06, 30 Jun 2018, 11:28 AM.
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| oneillsrevolution | 30 Jun 2018, 11:42 AM Post #4714 |
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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He just reiterated what we all know anyhow. So can't see how he's talking pish. Maybe we think it wasnt the most appropriate time to make such a statement - but maybe theres a reason for that
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| Frank Murphy | 30 Jun 2018, 11:42 AM Post #4715 |
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It’s naive I’m afraid |
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| Maleys Spirit | 30 Jun 2018, 11:44 AM Post #4716 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Frank you seem determined to see him go for sub 20 million, why is that? Take Maddsion as 25 million starting point and give us your "logic" |
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| Frank Murphy | 30 Jun 2018, 11:49 AM Post #4717 |
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We’re not getting £50m for Tierney. We might get a little more than the Everton offer but whatever the headline figure is it will include a lot of add ons. Rodgers comments smack of someone being honest with the support and preparing us for the inevitable. I hope the club are focusing on squad strengthing because a fee for Tierney will not compensate for the loss of revenue and prestige that will result from a failure to qualify for the champions league. |
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| oneillsrevolution | 30 Jun 2018, 11:52 AM Post #4718 |
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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Comparing the prices of Scottish and English players (with home-grown status) is not valid. I don't disagree KT is worth more than £25m (and priceless to us) but we can't compare to players with an English premium in a effing crazy transfer market. |
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| The Green Lantern | 30 Jun 2018, 11:54 AM Post #4719 |
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Considering retirement
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I don't think that he'll go this summer but, even if he did, £25 million is too low in the current market. The guy has got a decade of top-flight football left in him, has a long-term contract with his current club, and had CL and international experience. I'd wager that in the vast majority of footballing environments, a player with his experience and potential would be worth far more than the figure being bandied around. Admittedly, Scotland is different from other footballing environments but if the board decide to sell it should be for more than £25 million. |
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| Flawless | 30 Jun 2018, 11:54 AM Post #4720 |
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Fatboab shirt designer
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Why? This add-on chat. You keep mentioning it. Why on earth should Celtic not ask for and receive 30/40 million up front. Everton paid 35 million for the boy Keane from Burnley. We've an established international, champions league player. Proven winner on a six year deal with no inclination to leave. Plus he's only 21. Why would Celtic accept 15 million plus addons for that considering the boy Madison moved for 25 m last week. There's no way we'd accept it and nor should we. Edit to add. We just got 7m for a wantaway player in the last 12 months of his deal. We don't accept any offers as a club Edited by Flawless, 30 Jun 2018, 11:55 AM.
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