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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,879 Views)
fatboab
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riddlehouse
5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
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Kieran is a great young prospect, but hawd on there. Danny McGrain is one of the top five players ever to have played for Celtic. To burden young Tierney with that level of expectation is, quite frankly , absurd.
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5 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM
riddlehouse
5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
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Kieran is a great young prospect, but hawd on there. Danny McGrain is one of the top five players ever to have played for Celtic. To burden young Tierney with that level of expectation is, quite frankly , absurd.
Agreed. A bloke sitting close to me at Celtic Park was coming out with Danny comparisons after about 3 games. Mind you, he was also saying we would be selling Bitton for £12 Million.... I think the internet has created a mindset where people constantly need to make ludicrous comments and statements.
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5 Apr 2016, 10:43 AM
fatboab
5 Apr 2016, 09:49 AM
riddlehouse
5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
:rubeyes:


Kieran is a great young prospect, but hawd on there. Danny McGrain is one of the top five players ever to have played for Celtic. To burden young Tierney with that level of expectation is, quite frankly , absurd.
Agreed. A bloke sitting close to me at Celtic Park was coming out with Danny comparisons after about 3 games. Mind you, he was also saying we would be selling Bitton for £12 Million.... I think the internet has created a mindset where people constantly need to make ludicrous comments and statements.
Yesterday the media invited John Collins to compare young Roberts with Messi,that was ludicrous.Saying Tierney has it in him to be another McGrain not so much ,Danny of course maintained a consistency over many years while overcoming everything that was put in front of him.Tierney would need to do that but the ability and character is there.
Edited by nowonder, 5 Apr 2016, 11:02 AM.
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Riddlehouse reeling them in :lol:
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People comparing Tierney to McGrain can't possibly have seen Danny McGrain.
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Danny transcends normal earthly comparisons- for me he is still the world's greatest full back to have ever played, but young KT can cross a ball better for example, whilst DM was rubbish at crossing. KT has the potential to be world class
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5 Apr 2016, 08:58 AM
He'll certainly never be world class
You can't possibly make any sort of prediction either way with this. He's 18 ffs.
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5 Apr 2016, 11:14 AM
Danny transcends normal earthly comparisons- for me he is still the world's greatest full back to have ever played, but young KT can cross a ball better for example, whilst DM was rubbish at crossing. KT has the potential to be world class
Only mere mortals cross the ball. Danny didn't need to cross the ball, master of the pass and cutback. The only thing Danny didn't do was score and enforce world peace. :boxer:
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5 Apr 2016, 09:34 AM
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5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
The difference with the King (new monicker), is that he is unlike the rookies of the past 15-20 years.

Young guys from the past young teams have been technically good, and looked for the pass at all times. We loved it, we have had many great debuts from guys we never hear of again (tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Theódór Elmar Bjarnason). They were used to playing that way for young teams that dominated the reserve league, and this would soon be kicked out of them. From there, without their nice passing they'd have little to offer.

Tierney is the opposite. He already has fight, and an old head on his shoulders. He's equipped to play the football that, sadly, is a reality at Scottish senior level. His limited distribution abilities will improve, but you can't teach fight. He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
I disagree. It's the technical ability you can't teach, you can teach fight.
If someone is a feartie, they're a feartie. I'd say 'fight' has to be an inherent quality and can't be taught
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5 Apr 2016, 11:26 AM
smudgethecat
5 Apr 2016, 11:14 AM
Danny transcends normal earthly comparisons- for me he is still the world's greatest full back to have ever played, but young KT can cross a ball better for example, whilst DM was rubbish at crossing. KT has the potential to be world class
Only mere mortals cross the ball. Danny didn't need to cross the ball, master of the pass and cutback. The only thing Danny didn't do was score and enforce world peace. :boxer:
Naw but he did actually tell the Celtic View once his ambition was to see world peace :lol:
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5 Apr 2016, 11:19 AM
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5 Apr 2016, 08:58 AM
He'll certainly never be world class
You can't possibly make any sort of prediction either way with this. He's 18 ffs.
Of course you can.

I'm just saying he will not be one of the best players in the world - you can make that prediction about the vast, vast majority of players.
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5 Apr 2016, 11:03 AM
Riddlehouse reeling them in :lol:
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5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
The difference with the King (new monicker), is that he is unlike the rookies of the past 15-20 years.

Young guys from the past young teams have been technically good, and looked for the pass at all times. We loved it, we have had many great debuts from guys we never hear of again (tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Theódór Elmar Bjarnason). They were used to playing that way for young teams that dominated the reserve league, and this would soon be kicked out of them. From there, without their nice passing they'd have little to offer.

Tierney is the opposite. He already has fight, and an old head on his shoulders. He's equipped to play the football that, sadly, is a reality at Scottish senior level. His limited distribution abilities will improve, but you can't teach fight. He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
I disagree. It's the technical ability you can't teach, you can teach fight.
If someone is a feartie, they're a feartie. I'd say 'fight' has to be an inherent quality and can't be taught
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You can't reach 'fight', that's an instinct.
Besides, how is that done?

'right lads, as you know Tuesday's are fight training days, grab your bib wee man, today your up against Lenny, Bobo and Sutton!'...

'whimper' :twitch:
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who'd win a square go between

Bobo, Johan and Lenny, v Roy Aitken, Barry Robson and Broony?
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5 Apr 2016, 11:31 AM
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5 Apr 2016, 09:34 AM
riddlehouse
5 Apr 2016, 06:17 AM
The difference with the King (new monicker), is that he is unlike the rookies of the past 15-20 years.

Young guys from the past young teams have been technically good, and looked for the pass at all times. We loved it, we have had many great debuts from guys we never hear of again (tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Theódór Elmar Bjarnason). They were used to playing that way for young teams that dominated the reserve league, and this would soon be kicked out of them. From there, without their nice passing they'd have little to offer.

Tierney is the opposite. He already has fight, and an old head on his shoulders. He's equipped to play the football that, sadly, is a reality at Scottish senior level. His limited distribution abilities will improve, but you can't teach fight. He has it all in place to be as good as Danny McGrain.
I disagree. It's the technical ability you can't teach, you can teach fight.
If someone is a feartie, they're a feartie. I'd say 'fight' has to be an inherent quality and can't be taught
Having 'fight' (i.e. determination) is not the same as being scared or being a 'feartie'. You can certainly teach the latter.
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If someone is a feartie, they're a feartie. I'd say 'fight' has to be an inherent quality and can't be taught
Having 'fight' (i.e. determination) is not the same as being scared or being a 'feartie'. You can certainly teach the latter.
Again, how can you teach someone to be determined?

It's like teaching someone to be ambitious.

It's a quality or attribute that is part of your make up, otherwise Tony Watt and Derek Riordan would be two of the best players Scotland ever produced. :lol:

Some players had it, (Strachan Lennon) and many others don't, neither of them were technically outstanding or blessed with pace, power etc but they worked incredibly hard on and off the ball and had a steel/determination/fight that you couldn't teach. That's part of your character, not something coaches can instill.
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Having 'fight' (i.e. determination) is not the same as being scared or being a 'feartie'. You can certainly teach the latter.
Again, how can you teach someone to be determined?

It's like teaching someone to be ambitious.

It's a quality or attribute that is part of your make up, otherwise Tony Watt and Derek Riordan would be two of the best players Scotland ever produced. :lol:

Some players had it, (Strachan Lennon) and many others don't, neither of them were technically outstanding or blessed with pace, power etc but they worked incredibly hard on and off the ball and had a steel/determination/fight that you couldn't teach. That's part of your character, not something coaches can instill.
That's why I separated the two. Not sure determination can be taught. Not being a 'feartie' can.
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Again, how can you teach someone to be determined?

It's like teaching someone to be ambitious.

It's a quality or attribute that is part of your make up, otherwise Tony Watt and Derek Riordan would be two of the best players Scotland ever produced. :lol:

Some players had it, (Strachan Lennon) and many others don't, neither of them were technically outstanding or blessed with pace, power etc but they worked incredibly hard on and off the ball and had a steel/determination/fight that you couldn't teach. That's part of your character, not something coaches can instill.
That's why I separated the two. Not sure determination can be taught. Not being a 'feartie' can.
Well we'll disagree on that.

Other than Dutch courage or brave pills the majority of players, like us, are either fighters or they aren't.

Those you see squaring up and seeking a reaction, Sutton, Lennon, Strachan etc weren't taught that, likewise I don't think you could 'teach' the likes of Naka for example to introduce that aspect to his personality.
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McGrain played before my time, but am I right in saying he was the best full back in the world at one point?

Kieran Tierney is doing great at the moment and all the signs are encouraging however I don't think we should get too carried away yet, many players have showed great potential at 18 and gone on to do the square root of eff all in their careers. Got a good feeling this won't be the case with Tierney though. :)
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£10m price tag and comparisons to McGrain. That'll help the young fella :ffs:
Edited by CelticBhoy17, 5 Apr 2016, 02:50 PM.
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