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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,684 Views)
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Tierney > Robertson. Close thread.
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28 Mar 2018, 09:22 AM
Lets see, one of the world's best full backs, check, prohibitive length of contract, check, very young, check, elite level fitness, check. £100 million. Anything less and they can eff off
Most neutrals - and the previous Scotland manager - don’t even consider Tierney to be the best Scottish left back far less one of the world’s greatest. He’s a terrific young player but some of this stuff is bonkers.
By that logic Danny McGrain wasn't Scotland's best right back
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
Tierney's goals and assists stats are better than Robertson
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29 Mar 2018, 09:50 AM
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29 Mar 2018, 07:44 AM
Take it KT is back for tomorrow?
No, he's getting sold and we'll be lucky to get 5 bob for him according to the daily hun
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That's not quite what's being said is it.

Both Tierney and Robertson are excellent players and I think Tierney may have the greater potential but the fact is if they are both at their respective clubs in 3-4 years time then I would expect Robertson to have the edge by then and be a good bit more developed. Not a guarantee but my opinion based on the standard of player in training and in match days they will go up against.

Kieran is arguably the best youngster to come through (i think he is) since McStay but the fact is the latter stayed to long through one or two reasons and emotional attachment was one of those. Personally if we can't take Kieran to the 2-3 levels I feel he can go too and really be up there as the best left back in the UK and top 3-4 in Europe then he should leave within the next few seasons if a team like United came in for him. The fee doesn't bother me too much but I'd assume it'll be by far the highest we have received.
Just out of interest, are you one of those who complains about the standard of Scottish football?
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29 Mar 2018, 09:50 AM
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29 Mar 2018, 07:44 AM
Take it KT is back for tomorrow?
No, he's getting sold and we'll be lucky to get 5 bob for him according to the daily hun
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That's not quite what's being said is it.

Both Tierney and Robertson are excellent players and I think Tierney may have the greater potential but the fact is if they are both at their respective clubs in 3-4 years time then I would expect Robertson to have the edge by then and be a good bit more developed. Not a guarantee but my opinion based on the standard of player in training and in match days they will go up against.

Kieran is arguably the best youngster to come through (i think he is) since McStay but the fact is the latter stayed to long through one or two reasons and emotional attachment was one of those. Personally if we can't take Kieran to the 2-3 levels I feel he can go too and really be up there as the best left back in the UK and top 3-4 in Europe then he should leave within the next few seasons if a team like United came in for him. The fee doesn't bother me too much but I'd assume it'll be by far the highest we have received.
There is also every chance Robertson will be second choice full back and not in the 18 pretty soon, which is the way he started the season. If Liverpool fancied upgrading there, then lets face it, they've got the money to do so.

Even Lee Naylor had a honeymoon period. Football fans are notoriously fickle and Liverpool fans can be among the worst. It will only take a couple of high profile defensive errors, the weakest part of his game, to start the doubts.

Robertson has taken his chance brilliantly and deserves the plaudits, but lets face it, his reputation will be forged over 100-150 Liverpool games, not the 21 he's played to date.

Tierney could go to Man United and be a spare part like Luke Shaw and a dozen other players. He'd probably have a nice matt black Maserati to drive around in though, which is clearly what it is all about.
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Strachan wanted to play both and played Andy Robertson at left back as he saw KT as the more adaptable and could play on the right.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think there’s much between them. I know Robertson gets a lot of stick on here but he’s guaranteed to start a Champions League quarter final next week so he must be doing something right.
Edson Braafheid played in a World Cup final and he's the worst left back I've ever seen.

Robertson is a good player - he's quick, hardworking and has a decent delivery. But Tierney is a more complete player and a far better defender. And he's three years younger.
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
RObertson is a bit quicker, I dont find his final ball that good at all. Very inconsistent.

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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
RObertson is a bit quicker, I dont find his final ball that good at all. Very inconsistent.

Agree with that, Robertson's final ball is hit and miss.

He has a decent cross on him but KT is better at picking out late runners with a pass rather than a floated cross (which to be fair he hasn't done as much of this season compared to last).
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For what it’s worth, I don’t think there’s much between them. I know Robertson gets a lot of stick on here but he’s guaranteed to start a Champions League quarter final next week so he must be doing something right.
Edson Braafheid played in a World Cup final and he's the worst left back I've ever seen.

Robertson is a good player - he's quick, hardworking and has a decent delivery. But Tierney is a more complete player and a far better defender. And he's three years younger.
Braafheid, presumably, was the best left back Holland had available at international level where there’s no transfer market. Jurgen Klopp has an extensive transfer budget to search for left backs anywhere in the world and chose Robertson. Almost a year later, you won’t find any Liverpool fan arguing with that decision because, as far as they’re concerned, he’s solved their long-running left back problem. Will that still be the case next year? Who knows. But Robertson is getting better and better all the time at the moment and playing at the absolute highest level of football imaginable - the knockout rounds of the Champions League. Tierney is a terrific player too, and he’s hopefully someone whose ambitions can be met by staying at Celtic.
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Edson Braafheid played in a World Cup final and he's the worst left back I've ever seen.

Robertson is a good player - he's quick, hardworking and has a decent delivery. But Tierney is a more complete player and a far better defender. And he's three years younger.
Braafheid, presumably, was the best left back Holland had available at international level where there’s no transfer market. Jurgen Klopp has an extensive transfer budget to search for left backs anywhere in the world and chose Robertson. Almost a year later, you won’t find any Liverpool fan arguing with that decision because, as far as they’re concerned, he’s solved their long-running left back problem. Will that still be the case next year? Who knows. But Robertson is getting better and better all the time at the moment and playing at the absolute highest level of football imaginable - the knockout rounds of the Champions League. Tierney is a terrific player too, and he’s hopefully someone whose ambitions can be met by staying at Celtic.
My point is simply that playing at a particular stage of a particular competition on a particular occasion is not an indicator of a player's quality.

Here's an example that closer to home for Liverpool: Djimi Traore. Played a Champions League final FFS.

They are both good players. KT is better and younger.
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
RObertson is a bit quicker, I dont find his final ball that good at all. Very inconsistent.

Mibbe oversimplifying but they both seem to have a "preferred" cross that they revert to. Robertson's is played from the corner of the box (or deeper) and picks out someone at the back post while KT seems to hit the byline and cut it back for a later runner.

Both good players - it's a pity one of them isn't naturally right footed. By one of them I mean Robertson :lol:
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
RObertson is a bit quicker, I dont find his final ball that good at all. Very inconsistent.

Mibbe oversimplifying but they both seem to have a "preferred" cross that they revert to. Robertson's is played from the corner of the box (or deeper) and picks out someone at the back post while KT seems to hit the byline and cut it back for a later runner.

Both good players - it's a pity one of them isn't naturally right footed. By one of them I mean Robertson :lol:
Dembele at Aberdeen, Griffiths in Anderlecht. Tierney has both in his locker.

I'm not sure Robertson does, he seems to lose composure in the final third ( and indeed in the defensive third) he's a good player and probably more athletic than KT.





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Him and Brendan will be off after 10 I reckon.

Then in comes Malky McKay and Barry Douglas and we can begin the dreaded comedown.
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For what it’s worth, I don’t think there’s much between them. I know Robertson gets a lot of stick on here but he’s guaranteed to start a Champions League quarter final next week so he must be doing something right.
He gets stick on here because he's not Kieran Tierney. Robertson is a very good back or wing back with a cracking delivery.
That's not true, Remy absolutely despises both of them.
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He gets stick on here because he's not Kieran Tierney. Robertson is a very good back or wing back with a cracking delivery.
That's not true, Remy absolutely despises both of them.
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29 Mar 2018, 02:16 PM
Him and Brendan will be off after 10 I reckon.

Then in comes Malky McKay and Barry Douglas and we can begin the dreaded comedown.
:lol: :clap:

True.

Peter Grant as number 2.
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
Tierney's goals and assists stats are better than Robertson
Robertson's playing at a far higher level.
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29 Mar 2018, 11:36 AM
I think Tierney is better defensively but Robertson better going forward. Better final ball.
Lets see the assist stats.

Tierney is much better going forward than Robertson.

EDIT - Shouldn't have jumped in before clicking the next page. :lol:
Edited by Ste, 29 Mar 2018, 04:18 PM.
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Is he still out injured for Saturday?
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I think Tierney is a very good player, but also think some people go over the score with him.
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