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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,695 Views)
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Sinclair isn’t a clown

But he has been pretty poor recently and if you have eyes you can see that KT has got frustrated with Sinclair at times this season not finding space or moving enough for him - I’ve frequently seen KT moan at him

We are lucky to have them both but I’d agree Sinclair play of late has affecte/annoyed
KT - and me I might add
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7 Feb 2018, 06:42 PM
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He needs to get better when he's on the ball. Far too predictable. It's actually painful to watch at times when he turns back and plays it into the centre halves.

Didn't think he was at fault for the goal yesterday though.
See this pish, it's getting right on ma nipple ends.

If players are going forward, as Tierney is often doing, and see no option - they will look, judge the possibilities of the perceived pass and calculate the odds of it getting to its intended recipient. If the odds are too long, they'll stop and play a safer pass. If they didn't do this the manager would have them off the pitch in minutes, COS THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE effING TOLD TO DO!
You clearly have never seen KT play.

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And its the pish like your post that is getting on my tits. Any sort of suggestion that a young player needs to work on his game baulked at because he's Celtic through and through. People compared him to Danny McGrain ffs. He goes back more than he goes forward and it's because of his inability to use his right foot - nothing else. Opposition players just show him inside when he's deep and then press our CBs. Lustig gets absolutely slaughtered for it and KT is just as bad.
There should be no issue highlighting something he needs to improve on. He still remains one of the most promising players we have produced.

I have said before he goes back the way far too often and he does. It isn't all to do with Sinclair either, though that is not helping this season. Even last season, Kieran was guilty of going back the way when arguably there was a forward pass on to someone else. Every now and then he has to attempt a riskier pass to try and catch the opposition out. The safe option is making him and us predictable.
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You clearly have never seen KT play.

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And its the pish like your post that is getting on my tits. Any sort of suggestion that a young player needs to work on his game baulked at because he's Celtic through and through. People compared him to Danny McGrain ffs. He goes back more than he goes forward and it's because of his inability to use his right foot - nothing else. Opposition players just show him inside when he's deep and then press our CBs. Lustig gets absolutely slaughtered for it and KT is just as bad.
There should be no issue highlighting something he needs to improve on. He still remains one of the most promising players we have produced.

I have said before he goes back the way far too often and he does. It isn't all to do with Sinclair either, though that is not helping this season. Even last season, Kieran was guilty of going back the way when arguably there was a forward pass on to someone else. Every now and then he has to attempt a riskier pass to try and catch the opposition out. The safe option is making him and us predictable.
I think Rogers would rather they turn back and keep the ball than try the riskier pass. Keeping it has more advantages than attempting a 50/50 slide rule pass. You say there was 'arguably' a forward pass on, but he'll evaluate the chances of it getting through and if it's too risky he'll turn it back. Because that's what he's been told to do. A plan B of hoofing it to the 18 yard line has even less chance of succeeding. Some of our best goals recently have come from passing the ball around and through teams, and I think, while I'm going on about percentages, dropping Sinclair for someone else would be running a risk. What's the chances of someone else coming in, playing there and scoring and assisting as many as he has?

I do agree it can be predictable, but I think BR wants us to stick to that way of playing but get better at it. Everyone knows what Barcelona are going to do but stopping it is the hard part.
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I think he has the potential to be a great player but he's been poor this season.

Similar to Sinclair (but nowhere near as bad), he doesn't seem to be as bold in attacking players at the moment and does often just look inside/back towards the centre halves for a simple pass but then runs back the way in the direction of the player he's just passed to.

Watch top quality full backs and they will give and go, constantly.
Kieran Tierney is a player, a bloody fantastic player who gives everything for the club.
Any perceived dip in form is due to his reluctance at times to pass the ball forward is that he doesn't trust the
clown playing in front of him, and let's face it, who can blame him.
What the eff is this?
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7 Feb 2018, 08:59 PM
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7 Feb 2018, 06:42 PM

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There should be no issue highlighting something he needs to improve on. He still remains one of the most promising players we have produced.

I have said before he goes back the way far too often and he does. It isn't all to do with Sinclair either, though that is not helping this season. Even last season, Kieran was guilty of going back the way when arguably there was a forward pass on to someone else. Every now and then he has to attempt a riskier pass to try and catch the opposition out. The safe option is making him and us predictable.
I think Rogers would rather they turn back and keep the ball than try the riskier pass. Keeping it has more advantages than attempting a 50/50 slide rule pass. You say there was 'arguably' a forward pass on, but he'll evaluate the chances of it getting through and if it's too risky he'll turn it back. Because that's what he's been told to do. A plan B of hoofing it to the 18 yard line has even less chance of succeeding. Some of our best goals recently have come from passing the ball around and through teams, and I think, while I'm going on about percentages, dropping Sinclair for someone else would be running a risk. What's the chances of someone else coming in, playing there and scoring and assisting as many as he has?

I do agree it can be predictable, but I think BR wants us to stick to that way of playing but get better at it. Everyone knows what Barcelona are going to do but stopping it is the hard part.
I understand what you are saying and that Brendan wants us to keep the ball. I get that, but I do not always think that is the reason Kieran goes back the way.

Going back the way continuously is only showing me a group of players whose confidence is not what it was. We can keep possession in he opposition half, but we're not forcing it at the right times often enough just now.
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7 Feb 2018, 10:18 PM
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7 Feb 2018, 08:59 PM

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I think Rogers would rather they turn back and keep the ball than try the riskier pass. Keeping it has more advantages than attempting a 50/50 slide rule pass. You say there was 'arguably' a forward pass on, but he'll evaluate the chances of it getting through and if it's too risky he'll turn it back. Because that's what he's been told to do. A plan B of hoofing it to the 18 yard line has even less chance of succeeding. Some of our best goals recently have come from passing the ball around and through teams, and I think, while I'm going on about percentages, dropping Sinclair for someone else would be running a risk. What's the chances of someone else coming in, playing there and scoring and assisting as many as he has?

I do agree it can be predictable, but I think BR wants us to stick to that way of playing but get better at it. Everyone knows what Barcelona are going to do but stopping it is the hard part.
I understand what you are saying and that Brendan wants us to keep the ball. I get that, but I do not always think that is the reason Kieran goes back the way.

Going back the way continuously is only showing me a group of players whose confidence is not what it was. We can keep possession in he opposition half, but we're not forcing it at the right times often enough just now.
we should be doing it further up the park
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Madness that we didn't sign a back up for him last month. I'm hoping Miller has some games in him between now and then end of the season.
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7 Feb 2018, 10:18 PM
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7 Feb 2018, 09:13 PM

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I understand what you are saying and that Brendan wants us to keep the ball. I get that, but I do not always think that is the reason Kieran goes back the way.

Going back the way continuously is only showing me a group of players whose confidence is not what it was. We can keep possession in he opposition half, but we're not forcing it at the right times often enough just now.
we should be doing it further up the park
I would disagree that the manager would rather we played the pass backwards than take a chance going forward.

One of the biggest differences between world class and good players is bravery on the ball. If we constantly recycle it backwards because we are afraid of going forward we'll just be served up more pish like Saturday.

Since Barcelona was mentioned earlier I'll use them to make the point. Dani Alves probably started more attacks for the greatest club side I've seen in my life from RB and it wasn't because he didn't take any risks.
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7 Feb 2018, 08:22 PM
Sinclair isn’t a clown

But he has been pretty poor recently and if you have eyes you can see that KT has got frustrated with Sinclair at times this season not finding space or moving enough for him - I’ve frequently seen KT moan at him

We are lucky to have them both but I’d agree Sinclair play of late has affecte/annoyed
KT - and me I might add
Tierney's consistency level dropping is not down to Scott Sinclair.

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He’s played an unbelievable amount of games this season for someone so young, it really is no wonder he’s looking so burnt out. I remember when he came into the first team he was often subbed after 60/70 mins. To go from that to the player with the most minutes in world football is some leap. We should have kept Izaguirre to give him a rest every now and again, or if Izzy was desperate to go we should have signed a genuine left back to be his understudy. Not an 18 year old youth player who was a winger by trade.
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Madness that we didn't sign a back up for him last month. I'm hoping Miller has some games in him between now and then end of the season.
agreed on miller
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I think he has the potential to be a great player but he's been poor this season.

Similar to Sinclair (but nowhere near as bad), he doesn't seem to be as bold in attacking players at the moment and does often just look inside/back towards the centre halves for a simple pass but then runs back the way in the direction of the player he's just passed to.

Watch top quality full backs and they will give and go, constantly.
Kieran Tierney is a player, a bloody fantastic player who gives everything for the club.
Any perceived dip in form is due to his reluctance at times to pass the ball forward is that he doesn't trust the
clown playing in front of him, and let's face it, who can blame him.
Shambolic comment
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Helped set up the third goal and saved the win today with that fantastic tackle at the end.
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7 Feb 2018, 08:37 AM
I think he has the potential to be a great player but he's been poor this season.

Similar to Sinclair (but nowhere near as bad), he doesn't seem to be as bold in attacking players at the moment and does often just look inside/back towards the centre halves for a simple pass but then runs back the way in the direction of the player he's just passed to.

Watch top quality full backs and they will give and go, constantly.
Kieran Tierney is a player, a bloody fantastic player who gives everything for the club.
Any perceived dip in form is due to his reluctance at times to pass the ball forward is that he doesn't trust the
clown playing in front of him, and let's face it, who can blame him.
Yer arse, ya daft bastard.
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7 Feb 2018, 08:37 AM
I think he has the potential to be a great player but he's been poor this season.

Similar to Sinclair (but nowhere near as bad), he doesn't seem to be as bold in attacking players at the moment and does often just look inside/back towards the centre halves for a simple pass but then runs back the way in the direction of the player he's just passed to.

Watch top quality full backs and they will give and go, constantly.
Kieran Tierney is a player, a bloody fantastic player who gives everything for the club.
Any perceived dip in form is due to his reluctance at times to pass the ball forward is that he doesn't trust the
clown playing in front of him, and let's face it, who can blame him.
Yer arse, ya daft bastard.
Succint and to the point.

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That tackle at the end was class and saved us having a replay.

Great to see him celebrating that bit of play. Probably the only one who got pass marks today.
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That tackle at the end was class and saved us having a replay.

Great to see him celebrating that bit of play. Probably the only one who got pass marks today.
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That tackle at the end was class and saved us having a replay.

Great to see him celebrating that bit of play. Probably the only one who got pass marks today.
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:lol: :lol: In fairness, Broon was no bad as well.
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That tackle at the end was class and saved us having a replay.

Great to see him celebrating that bit of play. Probably the only one who got pass marks today.
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:lol: :lol: In fairness, Broon was no bad as well.
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That tackle at the end was class and saved us having a replay.

Great to see him celebrating that bit of play. Probably the only one who got pass marks today.
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:lol: There was this young lad, James somebody, he had a no bad game. :lol:
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