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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,703 Views)
Haitch
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30 Dec 2017, 07:18 PM
Ffs ya bunch of effing idiots. Was Tierney shown up today? No. Was he exposed defensively? No. Was he targeted by the opposition? No. Did he do as well as he normally does going forward? No.

Does that mean he was poor? No. Does it mean he had a stinker? No.

Does it mean you are lacking any sort of objectivity? Yes.
Yes we’re all idiots because we have a different opinion from you.

Tierney had a poor game, he was wasteful in possession and did get troubled a few times by the hun winger.

He’s still a smashing player. He’s played pretty much the full calendar year with barely a break. His understudy is an 18 year old who isn’t even a natural full back. He will come good again after the break when he is refreshed and has Compper and maybe someone else who can give him the odd break here and there.
Edited by Haitch, 30 Dec 2017, 07:33 PM.
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30 Dec 2017, 07:26 PM
Neil Jung
30 Dec 2017, 07:18 PM
Ffs ya bunch of effing idiots. Was Tierney shown up today? No. Was he exposed defensively? No. Was he targeted by the opposition? No. Did he do as well as he normally does going forward? No.

Does that mean he was poor? No. Does it mean he had a stinker? No.

Does it mean you are lacking any sort of objectivity? Yes.
You’re the one not being objective. You have him above criticism. He was poor today, it happens. How anyone could think he was fine today is beyond me. Anyone claiming he did fine today, simply knows nothing about football.
Criticism is one thing. Adjectives like stinker etc are another :lol: Totally lacking any sort objectivity.
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He got caught out a couple of times but generally he defended as well as someone who has two opponents on him could be expected to defend.
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30 Dec 2017, 07:36 PM
He got caught out a couple of times but generally he defended as well as someone who has two opponents on him could be expected to defend.
Some realism :thumbsup:
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30 Dec 2017, 06:17 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
Yep, poor again today.

Pretty minor point but I think he might be the worst player I've ever seen at taking throw ins :lol: Takes him about 30 seconds to pluck up the courage to finally throw it to someone.
Throw-ins have been a bugbear of mine all season. Think it’s more to do with players not showing than the taker though.
Was gonnae mention this earlier and thought "nah, I'll get slagged".

Truth is, we're dreadful when taking throw ins. No-one shows short, strikers aren't often interested in coming over to win headers either and more often than not, the pass back from the original receiver is then just blootered down the line.
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30 Dec 2017, 09:03 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:17 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
Yep, poor again today.

Pretty minor point but I think he might be the worst player I've ever seen at taking throw ins :lol: Takes him about 30 seconds to pluck up the courage to finally throw it to someone.
Throw-ins have been a bugbear of mine all season. Think it’s more to do with players not showing than the taker though.
Was gonnae mention this earlier and thought "nah, I'll get slagged".

Truth is, we're dreadful when taking throw ins. No-one shows short, strikers aren't often interested in coming over to win headers either and more often than not, the pass back from the original receiver is then just blootered down the line.
Sometimes the man who has the ball has to dictate what happens at a throw in as well. Don't wait for someone to make the move - force them to move into the space by throwing the ball there.

Our sort of static throw, pass back, volley down the line pish drives me mental.
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Haitch
30 Dec 2017, 06:17 PM
McStay
30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
Yep, poor again today.

Pretty minor point but I think he might be the worst player I've ever seen at taking throw ins :lol: Takes him about 30 seconds to pluck up the courage to finally throw it to someone.
Throw-ins have been a bugbear of mine all season. Think it’s more to do with players not showing than the taker though.
That's right. They stand and look at him.
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30 Dec 2017, 09:07 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 09:03 PM
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30 Dec 2017, 06:17 PM

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Was gonnae mention this earlier and thought "nah, I'll get slagged".

Truth is, we're dreadful when taking throw ins. No-one shows short, strikers aren't often interested in coming over to win headers either and more often than not, the pass back from the original receiver is then just blootered down the line.
Sometimes the man who has the ball has to dictate what happens at a throw in as well. Don't wait for someone to make the move - force them to move into the space by throwing the ball there.

Our sort of static throw, pass back, volley down the line pish drives me mental.
I agree with you. You know what it's like but, guy flings the ball into space and it goes straight to the opposition...suddenly he's the bad guy and everyone's on his back.

Perhaps it's another element of our game where we play things a bit too safe, I.e. The constant turning back from guys like Lustig, and the knocking off the ball between the two centre halves.
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Teams are really exploiting the fact Sinclair doesn't track back effectively. Hibs done it very noticeably but its getting more obvious.
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I think Kieran's been struggling for the past month or so, perhaps with a wee injury that needs a rest.
He has looked a yard short of pace going forward and lacked a wee bit of composure in possession at times.
If I'd to make a guess, I'd say it looks like he might have something like a niggling groin injury that he's had to play on with because we have no adequate cover for him.
Even at 90%, he's a smashing player.
Hopefully he'll be back to his explosive, brilliant best after the winter break. :thumbsup:
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mick405
30 Dec 2017, 09:03 PM
Haitch
30 Dec 2017, 06:17 PM
McStay
30 Dec 2017, 06:07 PM
Yep, poor again today.

Pretty minor point but I think he might be the worst player I've ever seen at taking throw ins :lol: Takes him about 30 seconds to pluck up the courage to finally throw it to someone.
Throw-ins have been a bugbear of mine all season. Think it’s more to do with players not showing than the taker though.
Was gonnae mention this earlier and thought "nah, I'll get slagged".

Truth is, we're dreadful when taking throw ins. No-one shows short, strikers aren't often interested in coming over to win headers either and more often than not, the pass back from the original receiver is then just blootered down the line.
Brown is pretty bad for firing it straight back to the thrower at waist height.

We’ve been pish at throw-ins since Matthews left.
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30 Dec 2017, 07:33 PM
Neil Jung
30 Dec 2017, 07:18 PM
Ffs ya bunch of effing idiots. Was Tierney shown up today? No. Was he exposed defensively? No. Was he targeted by the opposition? No. Did he do as well as he normally does going forward? No.

Does that mean he was poor? No. Does it mean he had a stinker? No.

Does it mean you are lacking any sort of objectivity? Yes.
Yes we’re all idiots because we have a different opinion from you.

Tierney had a poor game, he was wasteful in possession and did get troubled a few times by the hun winger.

He’s still a smashing player. He’s played pretty much the full calendar year with barely a break. His understudy is an 18 year old who isn’t even a natural full back. He will come good again after the break when he is refreshed and has Compper and maybe someone else who can give him the odd break here and there.
Agreed.

Some people get far too emotional when you critique Tierney ever so slightly.
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31 Dec 2017, 01:30 AM
I think Kieran's been struggling for the past month or so, perhaps with a wee injury that needs a rest.
He has looked a yard short of pace going forward and lacked a wee bit of composure in possession at times.
If I'd to make a guess, I'd say it looks like he might have something like a niggling groin injury that he's had to play on with because we have no adequate cover for him.
Even at 90%, he's a smashing player.
Hopefully he'll be back to his explosive, brilliant best after the winter break. :thumbsup:
From a twitter account.

"ncluding Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far."
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31 Dec 2017, 01:30 AM
I think Kieran's been struggling for the past month or so, perhaps with a wee injury that needs a rest.
He has looked a yard short of pace going forward and lacked a wee bit of composure in possession at times.
If I'd to make a guess, I'd say it looks like he might have something like a niggling groin injury that he's had to play on with because we have no adequate cover for him.
Even at 90%, he's a smashing player.
Hopefully he'll be back to his explosive, brilliant best after the winter break. :thumbsup:
From a twitter account.

"ncluding Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far."
Tierney also charges up and down the wing all game long. Lukaku just stands there most the time.
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31 Dec 2017, 10:07 PM
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31 Dec 2017, 10:05 PM
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31 Dec 2017, 01:30 AM
I think Kieran's been struggling for the past month or so, perhaps with a wee injury that needs a rest.
He has looked a yard short of pace going forward and lacked a wee bit of composure in possession at times.
If I'd to make a guess, I'd say it looks like he might have something like a niggling groin injury that he's had to play on with because we have no adequate cover for him.
Even at 90%, he's a smashing player.
Hopefully he'll be back to his explosive, brilliant best after the winter break. :thumbsup:
From a twitter account.

"ncluding Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far."
Tierney also charges up and down the wing all game long. Lukaku just stands there most the time.
Indeed. He has played an awful lot of football since the last winter break, and without much in the way of a rest period between games during that period; two halves of each league campaign, two runs to a Cup final, six Champions League matches and a handful of games for Scotland. All while playing a role that is both physically demanding and among the most important for Celtic. I believe some of the downturn in Sinclair's form can also be attributed to Tierney not being as explosive - defenders can double up on Sinclair, because Tierney isn't there to make space.

A break from playing and some uninterrupted training will do them all the world of good, Tierney included.
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I think Kieran's been struggling for the past month or so, perhaps with a wee injury that needs a rest.
He has looked a yard short of pace going forward and lacked a wee bit of composure in possession at times.
If I'd to make a guess, I'd say it looks like he might have something like a niggling groin injury that he's had to play on with because we have no adequate cover for him.
Even at 90%, he's a smashing player.
Hopefully he'll be back to his explosive, brilliant best after the winter break. :thumbsup:
From a twitter account.

"ncluding Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes. Broony (3,220 minutes) and Lustig (3,137 minutes) are next up, before you even get to the first non-Celtic player on the list, Salzburg's Valon Berisha (2,984 minutes) - that's 7 games worth less than Tierney has played. Given what we expect from our full backs - a bombing up and down the wing for 90 minutes - and how important it is to our style of play, Tierney and Lustig have played way too much football so far this season. Incidentally, Forrest (2,678) and Sinclair (2,598) are the next Celtic players.

Mourinho was talking about how tired Lukaku was. Tierney has played 8.5 more games than him so far."
Great work from Moravcik67. Madness we let Izzy go and didn't get a replacement. He is a 20 year old with the most physically demanding role in the side and nobody to take the load off. Pretty negligent.
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Some numbers on our young fullback, if he's looking tired, its because he is

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1. Including Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes.</p>— Moravcik67 (@Moravcik67_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Moravcik67_/status/947531197617451008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2. The 2 outfield players closest to Tierney are Scott Brown (3,220 minutes) and Mikael Lustig (3,137 minutes). Valon Berisha, of Salzburg, is the first non-Celtic player on the list, with 2,984 minutes - 7 games worth less than Tierney has played.</p>— Moravcik67 (@Moravcik67_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Moravcik67_/status/947531198808711168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Think Kieran needs to learn to pace himself during games.
He constantly provides Sinclair with an option usually on the outside. Sometimes he needs to not go into that space and just let Sinclair go at the defender.
KT makes an amazing amount of supporting runs throughout a match, he usually looks done in after 70 mins or so, I'm sure his stamina and knowledge of when to make runs will improve with experience.
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Tierney also charges up and down the wing all game long. Lukaku just stands there most the time.
Indeed. He has played an awful lot of football since the last winter break, and without much in the way of a rest period between games during that period; two halves of each league campaign, two runs to a Cup final, six Champions League matches and a handful of games for Scotland. All while playing a role that is both physically demanding and among the most important for Celtic. I believe some of the downturn in Sinclair's form can also be attributed to Tierney not being as explosive - defenders can double up on Sinclair, because Tierney isn't there to make space.

A break from playing and some uninterrupted training will do them all the world of good, Tierney included.
KT in Tenerife this week with his dad :thumbsup:
Then off with the team for training .
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Some numbers on our young fullback, if he's looking tired, its because he is

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">1. Including Internationals, Kieran Tierney has played more minutes (3,607) in 17/18 than any other outfield player in any European top tier league. That equates to 40 full matches in 169 days, or 1 game every ~4 days since July. Only Craig Gordon (3,780) has played more minutes.</p>— Moravcik67 (@Moravcik67_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Moravcik67_/status/947531197617451008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2. The 2 outfield players closest to Tierney are Scott Brown (3,220 minutes) and Mikael Lustig (3,137 minutes). Valon Berisha, of Salzburg, is the first non-Celtic player on the list, with 2,984 minutes - 7 games worth less than Tierney has played.</p>— Moravcik67 (@Moravcik67_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Moravcik67_/status/947531198808711168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 31, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

First I've seen this, incredible.

I've been concerned for a while suspecting that Kieran has played in ungodly number minutes in the past couple years playing in nearly every Scotland and Celtic game for I don't know how long and this confirms it. He's young and healthy so recovery is quick but I have to believe a good rest will do him a world of good. Given the way he is asked to play, bombing up and down the flank, I can't help but think his body is in dire need of a break.

His form has dipped slightly but still by far the best defender at the club. Looking forward to his second half.
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