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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
Topic Started: 28 Dec 2015, 02:51 PM (687,732 Views)
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That's fair enough.

However there's no need for them to get upset about the suggestion a talented young Scottish player might want to go test themselves elsewhere and develop into a world class player and that other people might think the lad has that right.

I've no idea why grown adults, I presume, are acting so defensively about what I've said.
Maybe because no one cares about him leaving, far less if it's supposedly for the benefit of Scotland.
What?

Why would you get upset if you don't care about the issue?
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Kieran's final ball, skill level and defensive abilities are all far better than Robertson, by a good few levels.

All of which are super qualities for a left-back, which is why I think Robertson is more likely to be pushed forward than Tierney. In a Scotland team that's pretty short on real pace, you can't overlook how important Robertson's speed is.

Personally I think they could end up as a pretty solid combination down the left for Scotland, not altogether dissimilar from how Tierney and Sinclair operate at the moment.
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Kieran's final ball, skill level and defensive abilities are all far better than Robertson, by a good few levels.

All of which are super qualities for a left-back, which is why I think Robertson is more likely to be pushed forward than Tierney. In a Scotland team that's pretty short on real pace, you can't overlook how important Robertson's speed is.

Personally I think they could end up as a pretty solid combination down the left for Scotland, not altogether dissimilar from how Tierney and Sinclair operate at the moment.
Agree.

Robertson at Left mid. Would be the ideal left side for 5-7 years.

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Maybe because no one cares about him leaving, far less if it's supposedly for the benefit of Scotland.
I'd say he'll be here for 10IAR at least. After that who knows. He'll be 23 by then with plenty of time on his side.
As much as I love Celtic I honestly think that if I was in his shoes I would be looking to move on after 10 in a row to the Spanish, Italian, French or even the German league.
Personal ambition more than professional ambition. What an opportunity to go and live in a beautiful European city or 2, pick up a 2nd language and experience a different culture. Come back home after 4 years and lead us to 15 in a row!

In saying that I hope he is personally unambitious and loves his mammy too much to move anywhere.

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Maybe because no one cares about him leaving, far less if it's supposedly for the benefit of Scotland.
What?

Why would you get upset if you don't care about the issue?
You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



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What?

Why would you get upset if you don't care about the issue?
You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



If that's his ambition then good on him I look forward to all the success he brings us.

I'm also Scottish though and a fan of the national side so I think it helps to have players competing and achieving at a higher level. If you're not that is fine I can only speak for myself.

If Tierney wants to try have success outside of Scotland then it's great ambition and I hope he succeeds as he'll be a better player for it with the right move.

I don't think there's anything wrong with your stance on it and I don't see why you can't understand my perspective.
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You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



If that's his ambition then good on him I look forward to all the success he brings us.

I'm also Scottish though and a fan of the national side so I think it helps to have players competing and achieving at a higher level. If you're not that is fine I can only speak for myself.

If Tierney wants to try have success outside of Scotland then it's great ambition and I hope he succeeds as he'll be a better player for it with the right move.

I don't think there's anything wrong with your stance on it and I don't see why you can't understand my perspective.
I don't think I'm failing to understand your perspective.

But I wouldn't trade another Celtic League Cup win for Scotland getting to any World Cup, beating England twice along the way, and getting out of the groups.




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If that's his ambition then good on him I look forward to all the success he brings us.

I'm also Scottish though and a fan of the national side so I think it helps to have players competing and achieving at a higher level. If you're not that is fine I can only speak for myself.

If Tierney wants to try have success outside of Scotland then it's great ambition and I hope he succeeds as he'll be a better player for it with the right move.

I don't think there's anything wrong with your stance on it and I don't see why you can't understand my perspective.
I don't think I'm failing to understand your perspective.

But I wouldn't trade another Celtic League Cup win for Scotland getting to any World Cup, beating England twice along the way, and getting out of the groups.




Well there's the difference.

As I say, if you're not a fan of the national side that's fine.
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Kieran's final ball, skill level and defensive abilities are all far better than Robertson, by a good few levels.

All of which are super qualities for a left-back, which is why I think Robertson is more likely to be pushed forward than Tierney. In a Scotland team that's pretty short on real pace, you can't overlook how important Robertson's speed is.

Personally I think they could end up as a pretty solid combination down the left for Scotland, not altogether dissimilar from how Tierney and Sinclair operate at the moment.
IMO it's nothing alike KT and Sinclair. Sinclair is right footed and comes inside which opens up space for Tierney up and down the flank. Robertson is all left sided so you'd have to imagine the two of them would be trying to operate in the same space.
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What?

Why would you get upset if you don't care about the issue?
You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



I’m with Ned. :thumbsup:
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It's been a while.

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I know I'm too old to ever see Tierney with a grey beard, but I hope when he has one he's still at Celtic
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Tierney and Robertson-if given time together- could be absolutely deadly for Scotland.
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What?

Why would you get upset if you don't care about the issue?
You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



:potm: Well said sir.

He can achieve all he wants right where he is. Frankly, I don't think he'd perform as well for any other club as he does for us. Don't get me wrong bed still be an excellent asset for any club but the determination, the sheer desire and balls to the effing wall effort wouldn't be there and it couldn't be, not for a team that wasn't your own.

Possibly naive of me but there you go. :)
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You think he should leave to make him a better player.

He's already becoming a better player at Celtic. Plenty before have stayed at the club and become great footballers. Some of the players who have reached the heights of club football left the club in tears and would have stayed and kicked their last ball with us.

If you're a Celtic fan, the first thing in your head when thinking about a player is 'I hope he stays at Celtic' rather than 'It would be nice if he went somewhere else to play so that it proves he's a great player'.

I don't care about any of that stuff and I certainly don't have the slightest thought about Scotland international side in my head when watching players develop.

He'll become rich playing for us and I say he'll be able to achieve all of his dreams at Celtic, because for some people Celtic is everything. Not money, not the EPL, not reaching a European Championships. Just Celtic. And if you see a guy running through a crowd with a broken jaw so he could life a trophy, then that's as good an indication to me as any that he'll be happy and content in his surroundings.



:potm: Well said sir.

He can achieve all he wants right where he is. Frankly, I don't think he'd perform as well for any other club as he does for us. Don't get me wrong bed still be an excellent asset for any club but the determination, the sheer desire and balls to the effing wall effort wouldn't be there and it couldn't be, not for a team that wasn't your own.

Possibly naive of me but there you go. :)
I think you're right, moving clubs would take a real edge off his game. However the lad is one of us, a fan whose world revolves around football and most importantly Celtic.

Is it that hard to imagine that he wants be to part of the march to 10 and beyond?
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