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Kieran Tierney; Wins Young Player of the Year & Goal of the Season
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https://youtu.be/Xicftd2VLoo

Mbappe highlights, only damaged us when he got away from KT.

And he got away from Tierney regularly.

One noticeable thing about those highlights was how off the pace our middle 2 Brown and Ntcham were.
Posted that in the after match thread me and my cousin clocked it after 30 minutes about Brown..he was blowing out of this bum...totally knacked & that was in the first half
Perhaps Sinclair and Roberts both starting was the wrong choice and left our middle too exposed.
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https://youtu.be/Xicftd2VLoo

Mbappe highlights, only damaged us when he got away from KT.

watched it, don't see the 'roasting' that KT got that some are referring to. He went by him twice only for KT to recover and get some kind of block in. Seemed to do a lot more damage when he drifted in-field.
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https://youtu.be/Xicftd2VLoo

Mbappe highlights, only damaged us when he got away from KT.

watched it, don't see the 'roasting' that KT got that some are referring to. He went by him twice only for KT to recover and get some kind of block in. Seemed to do a lot more damage when he drifted in-field.
Same video I seen then :lol:

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14 Sep 2017, 11:33 AM
https://youtu.be/Xicftd2VLoo

Mbappe highlights, only damaged us when he got away from KT.

And he got away from Tierney regularly.

One noticeable thing about those highlights was how off the pace our middle 2 Brown and Ntcham were.
Posted that in the after match thread me and my cousin clocked it after 30 minutes about Brown..he was blowing out of this bum...totally knacked & that was in the first half
Brown was imo our best performer.We obviously see the game differently.
Tierney did reasonably well considering what he was up against.He has the potential
to develop into a "world-class"player.He isn't near that atm.
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He needs to stop more crosses. Great tackling his man down the line but when they are in a crossing position he stands off. Happened for the second goal last night and it happens a lot domestically as well but they don't have the same quality obviously.
He defends quite narrowly at times.
I wonder if it's instinct or instruction
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Yeah, you can see in that chance after about 5 mins (that Cavani should maybe have scored from but couldn't get on the end of the cross), Tierney tucks in and it's Sinclair that's effectively at LB trying to cut out the cross.
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Posted that in the after match thread me and my cousin clocked it after 30 minutes about Brown..he was blowing out of this bum...totally knacked & that was in the first half
Brown was imo our best performer.We obviously see the game differently.
Tierney did reasonably well considering what he was up against.He has the potential
to develop into a "world-class"player.He isn't near that atm.
I honestly think Brown was off the pace on Tuesday and was noticebale. I've seen the stats about passing etc. but that could be anything such us backwards passes and short passes with no risk - dont think it reflects on his actual fitness during the game. To the naked eye he looked fecked. Even the youtube Mbappe highlights(above) there is a point (in first half) he could reach out to get the ball and he lets it go past. He looks dead on his feet.

I think the sooner he wraps Scotland the better.
Edited by littlegmbhoy, 14 Sep 2017, 04:14 PM.
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Yeah, you can see in that chance after about 5 mins (that Cavani should maybe have scored from but couldn't get on the end of the cross), Tierney tucks in and it's Sinclair that's effectively at LB trying to cut out the cross.
sums it up , Sinclair could drop back to help KT , but KT couldn't really get forward to help Sinclair because Mbappe only dropped back to the half way line when we attacked and would have been away like a whippet when the inevitable clearance came. Getting no help from Armstrong over there didn't help , he was a passenger.
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Yeah, you can see in that chance after about 5 mins (that Cavani should maybe have scored from but couldn't get on the end of the cross), Tierney tucks in and it's Sinclair that's effectively at LB trying to cut out the cross.
sums it up , Sinclair could drop back to help KT , but KT couldn't really get forward to help Sinclair because Mbappe only dropped back to the half way line when we attacked and would have been away like a whippet when the inevitable clearance came. Getting no help from Armstrong over there didn't help , he was a passenger.
:thumbsup:

Tierney did very well against Mbappe.

We will see many times this season Mbappe roasting people and scoring/setting up a bucket load.
He was kept relatively quiet the other night.
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sums it up , Sinclair could drop back to help KT , but KT couldn't really get forward to help Sinclair because Mbappe only dropped back to the half way line when we attacked and would have been away like a whippet when the inevitable clearance came. Getting no help from Armstrong over there didn't help , he was a passenger.
:thumbsup:

Tierney did very well against Mbappe.

We will see many times this season Mbappe roasting people and scoring/setting up a bucket load.
He was kept relatively quiet the other night.
yeah he did mate , in many ways they cancelled each other out :thumbsup:
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Yeah, you can see in that chance after about 5 mins (that Cavani should maybe have scored from but couldn't get on the end of the cross), Tierney tucks in and it's Sinclair that's effectively at LB trying to cut out the cross.
sums it up , Sinclair could drop back to help KT , but KT couldn't really get forward to help Sinclair because Mbappe only dropped back to the half way line when we attacked and would have been away like a whippet when the inevitable clearance came. Getting no help from Armstrong over there didn't help , he was a passenger.
team instructions - static tight back 4 relying on wingers/wide mid with little defensive nous to stall attacks. That would be bad enough but for those wingers to be covering an enormous area of the midfield was asking for trouble. A lesson in how to exhaust your front 6. The PSG transition from defence to midfield attack was swift, so the amount of ground that 2 players (already passed on each wing) have to cover is utterly ridiculous. Brendan is exceptional, but he's also exceptionally stubborn in his belief that the high press is "the way" to play football. Coupled with an exposed 433 against top opposition - just bewildering. There's a time to deploy the 433 when the opposition are likely to spill the ball, and a time to defend resolutely as a unit when PSG, Real Madrid or Barca roll into town knowing that they will exploit the high press and space behind.

I personally couldn't score him lower than 9.5 again this season for taking Celtic to CL, but a 10 is achievable if he would adapt according to opposition. He's got the brains and the psychology to achieve the remarkable. Apoel made the quarter finals in 11/12 with an average side and exceptional management which is one of the greatest achievements in European football of the last 20 years. A draw on Tuesday was possible if unlikely but to throw the doors open to a weakened defensive line was humiliating for them and the support.

I thought Tierney played well given the restrictions which loosened as the game progressed. Simunovic appeared to follow defensive instincts for the 2nd goal which marred his performance but again if those restrictions were not in place players would not be hesitant to move in to compensate for CBs doubling up in goalmouth situations. Ntcham looked like a fish out of water rather than funnelling back to cover but he made some impressive penetrating passes in the game which give me hope that this was just a managerial blip that the team will all learn from.

I think the u-12s remark was an error. I'd take the humiliating hit and admit I royally miscalculated.
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sums it up , Sinclair could drop back to help KT , but KT couldn't really get forward to help Sinclair because Mbappe only dropped back to the half way line when we attacked and would have been away like a whippet when the inevitable clearance came. Getting no help from Armstrong over there didn't help , he was a passenger.
team instructions - static tight back 4 relying on wingers/wide mid with little defensive nous to stall attacks. That would be bad enough but for those wingers to be covering an enormous area of the midfield was asking for trouble. A lesson in how to exhaust your front 6. The PSG transition from defence to midfield attack was swift, so the amount of ground that 2 players (already passed on each wing) have to cover is utterly ridiculous. Brendan is exceptional, but he's also exceptionally stubborn in his belief that the high press is "the way" to play football. Coupled with an exposed 433 against top opposition - just bewildering. There's a time to deploy the 433 when the opposition are likely to spill the ball, and a time to defend resolutely as a unit when PSG, Real Madrid or Barca roll into town knowing that they will exploit the high press and space behind.

I personally couldn't score him lower than 9.5 again this season for taking Celtic to CL, but a 10 is achievable if he would adapt according to opposition. He's got the brains and the psychology to achieve the remarkable. Apoel made the quarter finals in 11/12 with an average side and exceptional management which is one of the greatest achievements in European football of the last 20 years. A draw on Tuesday was possible if unlikely but to throw the doors open to a weakened defensive line was humiliating for them and the support.

I thought Tierney played well given the restrictions which loosened as the game progressed. Simunovic appeared to follow defensive instincts for the 2nd goal which marred his performance but again if those restrictions were not in place players would not be hesitant to move in to compensate for CBs doubling up in goalmouth situations. Ntcham looked like a fish out of water rather than funnelling back to cover but he made some impressive penetrating passes in the game which give me hope that this was just a managerial blip that the team will all learn from.

I think the u-12s remark was an error. I'd take the humiliating hit and admit I royally miscalculated.
That's a nice analysis apart from the fact Rodgers has rarely ever set the team up as 433
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Tierney did very well against Mbappe.

We will see many times this season Mbappe roasting people and scoring/setting up a bucket load.
He was kept relatively quiet the other night.
yeah he did mate , in many ways they cancelled each other out :thumbsup:
Aye so they did :lol:
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yeah he did mate , in many ways they cancelled each other out :thumbsup:
Aye so they did :lol:
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I'd love to see Mbappe on a good night
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yeah he did mate , in many ways they cancelled each other out :thumbsup:
Aye so they did :lol:
Overly critical of KT there. :nono:
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Aye so they did :lol:
Overly critical of KT there. :nono:
Are you surprised?? 😅😅
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Overly critical of KT there. :nono:
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Posted that in the after match thread me and my cousin clocked it after 30 minutes about Brown..he was blowing out of this bum...totally knacked & that was in the first half
Brown was imo our best performer.We obviously see the game differently.
Tierney did reasonably well considering what he was up against.He has the potential
to develop into a "world-class"player.He isn't near that atm.
I thought Brown was well off pace (so was the rest of our midfield) but everybody see's the game differently.

Also thought KT did not start great but grew into the game.

We are never to going to be at the current PSG level,therefore the team moves on.

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His potential is seen too much rather than his actual skill. It's all very and well doing the basics but top players have a level of composure and assurance which he is nowhere near and without hard work will be nowhere near.

The things he should have improved on he hasn't done that much, he's our most wasteless player and that needs to improve, the good point is he's 20 and will improve however he's not been good enough in Europe.
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team instructions - static tight back 4 relying on wingers/wide mid with little defensive nous to stall attacks. That would be bad enough but for those wingers to be covering an enormous area of the midfield was asking for trouble. A lesson in how to exhaust your front 6. The PSG transition from defence to midfield attack was swift, so the amount of ground that 2 players (already passed on each wing) have to cover is utterly ridiculous. Brendan is exceptional, but he's also exceptionally stubborn in his belief that the high press is "the way" to play football. Coupled with an exposed 433 against top opposition - just bewildering. There's a time to deploy the 433 when the opposition are likely to spill the ball, and a time to defend resolutely as a unit when PSG, Real Madrid or Barca roll into town knowing that they will exploit the high press and space behind.

I personally couldn't score him lower than 9.5 again this season for taking Celtic to CL, but a 10 is achievable if he would adapt according to opposition. He's got the brains and the psychology to achieve the remarkable. Apoel made the quarter finals in 11/12 with an average side and exceptional management which is one of the greatest achievements in European football of the last 20 years. A draw on Tuesday was possible if unlikely but to throw the doors open to a weakened defensive line was humiliating for them and the support.

I thought Tierney played well given the restrictions which loosened as the game progressed. Simunovic appeared to follow defensive instincts for the 2nd goal which marred his performance but again if those restrictions were not in place players would not be hesitant to move in to compensate for CBs doubling up in goalmouth situations. Ntcham looked like a fish out of water rather than funnelling back to cover but he made some impressive penetrating passes in the game which give me hope that this was just a managerial blip that the team will all learn from.

I think the u-12s remark was an error. I'd take the humiliating hit and admit I royally miscalculated.
That's a nice analysis apart from the fact Rodgers has rarely ever set the team up as 433
Also, Apoel had an easier group and Lyon in the last 16. I would think we would have a fighting chance of QFs in those circumstances.
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Brown was imo our best performer.We obviously see the game differently.
Tierney did reasonably well considering what he was up against.He has the potential
to develop into a "world-class"player.He isn't near that atm.
I thought Brown was well off pace (so was the rest of our midfield) but everybody see's the game differently.

Also thought KT did not start great but grew into the game.

We are never to going to be at the current PSG level,therefore the team moves on.

Brown plays a completely different game in Europe. Domestically he sets the pace but in Europe he charges about as a headless chicken and his passing goes out the window, it's not the example we need at that level. If Brown isn't on his game, it's no wonder guys like Armstrong can go completely missing.
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