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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,209 Views) | |
| Zurawski 7 | 10 Dec 2016, 04:48 PM Post #1721 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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| Kingslim | 11 Dec 2016, 12:27 AM Post #1722 |
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69 and counting
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I wasn't far away from where he hit it and at the time I thought it was an amazing goal but having now seen it on TV I think Cerny will be disappointed he didn't save it. Still a cracking hit all the same and it did come through a ruck of players. Griffiths goal was a thing of beauty |
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| Big Drew | 11 Dec 2016, 12:45 AM Post #1723 |
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Rio Fergus McCann CSC
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Deila effed up many of our players. Stuart was just one of them. He was clueless how to use him and his development/contribution suffered. |
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| tinsoldier | 11 Dec 2016, 12:49 AM Post #1724 |
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Older than dirt
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Absolutely. Armstrong was a great player with United and then regressed whilst with us. All good now though. |
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| Kingslim | 11 Dec 2016, 12:57 AM Post #1725 |
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69 and counting
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Blaming Ronny for Armstrong's failings - I'm not sure I agree. You need to remember it's a big step coming from Utd to Celtic mentally as well as physically. For all Ronny's failings he must get credit for KT, Rogic and McGregor's impact in the first team. |
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| Hoops_in_Paris | 11 Dec 2016, 01:03 AM Post #1726 |
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It's a big step, but Armstrong and GMS adapted very well to the team when they signed. I remember we were joking only former Dundee United couldn't score for us. |
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| Kingslim | 11 Dec 2016, 01:10 AM Post #1727 |
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69 and counting
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I remember him scoring on his debut at Thistle. Still felt both him and Mackay Steven didn't look up to it physically. Obviously Ronnys training regime didn't help them progress but not convinced he was the reason people think they regressed. Armstrong wasn't going to move Bitton or Brown at that stage either, so was always going to be difficult for him in the early part of his career. Delighted he's finally starting to fulfil his potential |
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| AtLeastIDontWorkInAmazon | 11 Dec 2016, 01:20 PM Post #1728 |
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Armstrong himself said last season that he was struggling mentally playing for Celtic. Some big players have also stated that they never realised the size and expectation until they got here. It happens with a lot of players. The whole position thing was done to death last season, then stats were posted showing that Armstrong had played most of his games on the left. Some people are also conveniently forgetting that he played in the middle last season as well and was shampooe. There is still this constant need from some on here to blame Ronny for the failing of every player. I'd rather take the players word for it and he's previously stated the he had a back injury that he couldn't get rid of and was struggling mentally with playing for us. The important thing is that he's now playing much better than before, which is all anyone should really care about. |
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| oneillsrevolution | 11 Dec 2016, 01:35 PM Post #1729 |
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but in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.
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I'm not one for Ronnie bashing (I think he could be a really excellent PE teacher) but the difference with Armstrong under Deila and Rodgers is stark. Ronnie signed him then played him out of position. He's unsurprisingly crap and there's a long debate on here whether he's good enough. Brendan arrives, its on record he asked Stuart what position he see himself in. He is then played in central midfield and has been a revelation since he started playing every week. Ronnie needs to take the blame for Armstrong's stuttering start - glad his career is taking off at Celtic. Could be a mainstay for many years. |
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| Mickeybhoy84 | 11 Dec 2016, 01:40 PM Post #1730 |
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Living the dream
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Some of the runs this guy makes are outstanding. Defenders in Scotland don't seem intelligent enough to track him properly. |
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| echo | 11 Dec 2016, 01:51 PM Post #1731 |
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Heart Of Saturday Afternoon
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He plays with such pace and aggression now that I sometimes find myself for a second thinking who is that guy? when he pops up out of nowhere and filches the ball off an opposition player like someone taking sweeties off a wean. It's a joy to watch. |
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| Patrick_Bateman | 11 Dec 2016, 01:52 PM Post #1732 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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Bring back Commons |
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| TheSaint | 11 Dec 2016, 01:56 PM Post #1733 |
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It is a beautiful day! It is a new day ! And we are together!!
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No thanks |
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| ChiliPepper | 11 Dec 2016, 02:30 PM Post #1734 |
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Getting on a bit
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That's true, but Deila definitely saw the potential. He was talking him up before we signed him and was always in his teams. He didn't do that because he couldn't see his potential. |
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| joebhoy95 | 11 Dec 2016, 02:49 PM Post #1735 |
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I am the one who knocks...
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I don't think Armstrong regressed as a footballer under Deila, I just think he was being played out of position. Wide left or right didn't suit his game and the head dipped. Looks a different player now.
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| joebhoy95 | 11 Dec 2016, 02:50 PM Post #1736 |
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I am the one who knocks...
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He's not the only player to have followed that pattern.
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| BobMacDhònnchaidh | 11 Dec 2016, 02:55 PM Post #1737 |
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Forget it Marge, it's Chinatown!
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| Hairytoes | 11 Dec 2016, 07:30 PM Post #1738 |
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First-team captain
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So. Don't need McCarthy then? Certainly not for the fee/wage rumoured. Not worth the difference in price/quality/contribution IMO. |
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| IainG | 11 Dec 2016, 07:32 PM Post #1739 |
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Ah but I was so much older then,I'm younger than that now
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Oddly enough he played a lot of games at Dundee Utd on the left. Different player now, exceeding expectations. |
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| morpheus | 11 Dec 2016, 07:34 PM Post #1740 |
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Club Captain
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We still need additional midfielders, regardless of Armstrong's form. McCarthy? Well depends on the price and wages, if the rumoured £15M from this morning is true we can forget it, not that he'd be worth forking out anywhere near that even if we could afford it. |
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