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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,226 Views) | |
| Luca | 24 Nov 2016, 05:51 PM Post #1401 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Watched a bunch of highlights of him there; it's his starting stance and running style that's going against him. Most players lean their upper body forward and slightly over the ball when running with it - the same is true when players control the ball, they adjust their upper body. Stuart on the other hand has an almost perfectly vertical back at all times If you watch him he's very rigid in the upper body and his legs are having to do all the adjustment work, which is going against him.I am aware of this overly analytical look at Stuart Armstrong's running style and posture, but it's late in the day and i've finished all my work. |
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| Ray Le Otter | 24 Nov 2016, 06:12 PM Post #1402 |
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Occasional Substitute
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I dont agree. It just didnt work for him last night when it mattered. There's no way his forst touch should be described as "shambolic" and it certainly wouldn't apply for "most of the time" Thats just mad! |
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| Ray Le Otter | 24 Nov 2016, 06:14 PM Post #1403 |
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He played well at times. He was full of enthusiasm and running and he didnt hide. His touch got him into bother a few times. He put in the effort to get back and recover the ball rather than throwing a strop though. |
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| Novelty_Bauble | 24 Nov 2016, 07:16 PM Post #1404 |
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Considering retirement
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At the moment I will take him occassionally giving the ball away over Bitton starting games for us. Hoping we can get a new CM in Jan. Until that happens I think we should stick with him. |
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| ssmith81 | 24 Nov 2016, 09:07 PM Post #1405 |
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Mo..Mo..Super Mo....Super Mo Camara!
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People giving it the 'he ran about lots' are doing him a total disservice. He ran about lots and in spells looked one of our better players, nice passes/driving runs and good tracking. He had plenty of poor passes and bad decision making thrown in for good measure but give the guy some credit ffs. He tried to be brave. |
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| Bobby Peru | 24 Nov 2016, 09:59 PM Post #1406 |
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The Maestro
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Decent. Ok at everything without excelling at anything. His adaptability also makes him a perfect squad player and he is Scottish too which helps. Needs to change his boots though, falls in his arse at least twice in every game! |
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| Kingslim | 24 Nov 2016, 10:02 PM Post #1407 |
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69 and counting
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He gives the ball away in every game he plays mainly due to a poor touch whether that's pulling it out the sky, running with the ball and at times even when he receiving a pass. That part of his game hasn't improved. |
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| Spectre vs Rector | 24 Nov 2016, 11:51 PM Post #1408 |
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Club Captain
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He fairly cleaned out Messi near the the end Right in front of Luis Enrique as well.
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| Glorious_1967 | 25 Nov 2016, 02:02 AM Post #1409 |
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Getting on a bit
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The Anthony Stokes of our midfielders. Spectacular moments overshadow a fairly mediocre player. One of the most frustrating aspects about him is his inconsistent touch. He can controll it instantly at times under difficult circumstances and at others the ball just bounces off him like shrapnell. Perhabs a sign that he lacks concentration in crucial moments or that he's easily put under pressure. |
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| MON's Left Eyebrow | 25 Nov 2016, 03:26 AM Post #1410 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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Better than Bitton 9 games out of 10. |
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| Hagi Bhoy | 25 Nov 2016, 06:30 AM Post #1411 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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He's basically turned into Stefan Johansen. Does an awful lot of running but at the expense of adding quality when he gets on the ball. Hopefully Brendan, unlike Ronny, can show Armstrong how to pick and choose when to burst a gut and when to conserve energy. If you're blowing out your arse all the time sprinting around then you're doing something wrong. |
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| Luca | 25 Nov 2016, 10:14 AM Post #1412 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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He's a bit more productive than Johansen was tbf. His attitude and team work is also streets ahead of Stefan. Edited by Luca, 25 Nov 2016, 10:16 AM.
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| remy mcswain | 25 Nov 2016, 10:17 AM Post #1413 |
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Big in Canada
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I wasn't a big fan of Johansen but to say Armstrong is more productive than him is patent nonsense unless you are basing it solely on last season when they were both pish. |
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| Luca | 25 Nov 2016, 10:30 AM Post #1414 |
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Off treasure hunting in Holland
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Of course i'm basing it on last season. |
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| remy mcswain | 25 Nov 2016, 11:00 AM Post #1415 |
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Big in Canada
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Starting from a low base. If you compare it to Johansen's PotY season (whether I agreed with it or not), Armstrong is miles short. |
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| Walter Sobchak | 25 Nov 2016, 11:04 AM Post #1416 |
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NSSST NSSST NSSST
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If you compare Johansen August-November in his POTY season with Armstrong this season there's not much in it. Johansen only really kicked on that season after Christmas that season. |
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| Luca | 25 Nov 2016, 11:06 AM Post #1417 |
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I'd be mental to claim Armstrong of present is better or more productive than POTY Johansen. I was going by their most recent form in a Celtic shirt. Armstrong is still lacking and unlikely to cut it at CL level, but he's at least grafting and looking to be productive even if he lacks the consistency or ability to do so. Johansen was mainly an empty jersey and more destructive than productive by the end of his time with us. |
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| duffsticks | 25 Nov 2016, 01:10 PM Post #1418 |
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Cheap aftershave and bullshampoo
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I have to disagree on his first touch - I actually think his close control is quite good. I don't remember him giving the ball away from a poor first touch; maybe I'm mistaken, but I remember his turnovers coming from bad passing, not a bad first touch. I do remember him wriggling out of tight situations under pressure, beating his man and driving forward. As I've said before, I think he's got clear weaknesses and he really needs to work on his passing. But to say his first touch is "shambolic" is over the top, imo. Personally - I think it's generally good, with the odd mistake here and there. If we were having this conversation last season, I'd probably agree with you more. I think he's improved this season though, whether just through confidence or practice, or a combination of both. |
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| Don Vito | 26 Nov 2016, 11:08 PM Post #1419 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Scottish league player.. Decent and strong but frustrating. I do wonder why so many Scottish players regularly fail to do the simple things correctly..? A lack of composure probably. |
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| tinsoldier | 26 Nov 2016, 11:14 PM Post #1420 |
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Older than dirt
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I g to the feeling that now he's getting a fe games in the middle he's trying too hard and rushing things. He's a good player. |
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If you watch him he's very rigid in the upper body and his legs are having to do all the adjustment work, which is going against him.










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