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| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
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| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,234 Views) | |
| Gallowgate | 2 Nov 2016, 09:02 AM Post #1241 |
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First-team captain
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I'll gladly take his willingness to graft and get about the pitch over what Bitton offers. He'll score some goals too. Right now he's clearly the better option but with a new midfielder likely to be top of BR's list of improvements to the team, he might struggle to stay in it. |
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| allthewine | 2 Nov 2016, 09:32 AM Post #1242 |
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Club Captain
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| stibhan | 2 Nov 2016, 10:44 AM Post #1243 |
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Viva la Quinta Brigada
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Sounds more like James Forrest to me. |
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| AG67 | 2 Nov 2016, 10:46 AM Post #1244 |
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Getting on a bit
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He is a good SPL player at times, has done well recently, but looked well out of his depth against BMG. No composure at all, constantly gave the ball away, often under no pressure. |
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| remy mcswain | 2 Nov 2016, 10:48 AM Post #1245 |
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Big in Canada
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Forrest was poor. Passing stats still better than Armstrong's though. |
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| littlegmbhoy | 2 Nov 2016, 10:58 AM Post #1246 |
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Club Captain
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Squad player. If and it is a big IF we want to compete at CL league level then he does not have the passing ability, composure at this level. He is sound domestically generally speaking but he and Mcgregor simply cannot hack it at this level. Mcgregor especially We need to invest in two midfielders that are quality passers and 1 of the two who is physical they will cost money are not ten a penny but thats what scouts and databases are for. Armstrong is decent locally but outwith aint going to hack it. |
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| sevilliano | 2 Nov 2016, 11:02 AM Post #1247 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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agree with this |
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| Conbelfast67 | 2 Nov 2016, 11:35 AM Post #1248 |
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Club Captain
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He got himself about last night but his passing was piss poor. He did make a lovely wee tackle when he lost the ball towards the end of the game. |
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| redbhoy | 2 Nov 2016, 11:38 AM Post #1249 |
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Whit's the goalie daein?!
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Ideally next year he's the one coming on instead of McGregor, and there's a better player in front of him in the starting lineup. I like Armstrong, and he's certainly got improvement in him, but realistically he's not going to be in front of Brown in his current form, or the likes of McCarthy if we can get him in. |
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| farney bhoy | 2 Nov 2016, 11:42 AM Post #1250 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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I agree. Just not up to it at this level. His passing was woeful at times. Not saying Bitton is the answer either. Perhaps this can be addressed in the Jan window. |
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| Shallow_man | 2 Nov 2016, 11:56 AM Post #1251 |
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First name on the team-sheet
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How many passes did Forrest actually make? He was never in the game (as usual) |
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| Dannybhoy95 | 2 Nov 2016, 12:01 PM Post #1252 |
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Champions Again Olé, Olé
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That's 4 more than adequate performances from defensive midfield in a row from him. Think this spells the end for Bitton. It's a pretty big ask to shift from attacking midfield to the defensive side. I'd be more than happy to wait it out and see how he develops. There certainly seems to be something there. Still think we're a man light in the middle, mind. |
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| Forza | 2 Nov 2016, 12:18 PM Post #1253 |
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Considering retirement
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Not really true though, is it? They are both hovering about 81.5% for PC, with Armstrong slightly higher if we're being totally accurate. He's also attempting way more passes in a longer time frame which increases the likelihood of a lower completion rate, but still has a slightly better rate. Armstrong: 49 out of 60 passes completed in 93 minutes. Forrest: 22 out of 27 passes completed in 59 minutes. All available in the press match kit here: http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2017/matches/round=2000783/match=2019334/match-info/index.html Edited by Forza, 2 Nov 2016, 12:19 PM.
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| Deleted User | 2 Nov 2016, 12:27 PM Post #1254 |
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That's unfortunately the perfect description for him in Europe
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| greenjedi | 2 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM Post #1255 |
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Jedi Master
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Did you miss the bit where he said worked hard? |
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| Govan Super Casino | 2 Nov 2016, 12:33 PM Post #1256 |
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Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
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More disciplined last night but against RC and Aberdeen he got forward a lot, didn't play as a DM. Deserves to keep his starting place. |
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| FatherSpliffmas | 2 Nov 2016, 12:52 PM Post #1257 |
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Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
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Don't think there's a lot between Armstrong, McGregor and Henderson. They've all got decent technique but not any real quality or ability to dominate a midfield. Fine in Scotland but a glaring deficiency in Europe. |
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| largent80 | 2 Nov 2016, 01:00 PM Post #1258 |
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Occasional Substitute
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agree with this pretty much 100%Brown is playing really well right now but we need two quality midfielders brought in to play with him if we want to have a realistic shot of challenging for 2nd place in the CL group stages on a consistent basis. Bitton, Armstrong and McGregor are not up to it at this level. |
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| Bandage | 2 Nov 2016, 06:17 PM Post #1259 |
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First team training
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I thought he was potentially a good player when he was initially signed. But I changed my mind over time and he was borderline inept at times last season. I'm going to defer to our decorated and accomplished manager if he thinks there's a player in there but I still have misgivings. I don't see any outstanding qualities in Armstrong - he's mobile, willing, verstaile and makes good forward runs - but he seems to have lots of limitations. He's busy but lacks aggression, his passing is average / below average, he doesn't have the best defensive awareness, he doesn't contribute enough goals or assists despite getting into good areas. |
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| sweetleftfoot | 2 Nov 2016, 06:25 PM Post #1260 |
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Club Captain
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His limitations exposed at this level--good SPL player. |
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agree with this pretty much 100%
8:59 AM Jul 11