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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,255 Views)
weejimmy
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No he certainly did not line up in center mid but he sure came inside a lot.
Just look at where he scored his goal from.
From running off the left you mean?

I think people fundamentally understand the point of playing inside out wide players.

Shambolic opposition or not, he excelled playing on the left today. He can continue to be effective there if we choose to pick him there, especially if we get anything like a settled team.

The next manager is likely to pick 4-2-3-1, because it it one of about three currently favoured systems across the world these days. People might want to get used to it.
No he did not score from running off the left. From the free kick he cruised up the inside left channel and then
to the right side of the penalty spot got he ball and scored from there.
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Hopefully this season was one of those "struggling to adjust at a bigger club" seasons and he looks the part next year. I'm not hopeful, though.
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weejimmy
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15 May 2016, 06:37 PM

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From running off the left you mean?

I think people fundamentally understand the point of playing inside out wide players.

Shambolic opposition or not, he excelled playing on the left today. He can continue to be effective there if we choose to pick him there, especially if we get anything like a settled team.

The next manager is likely to pick 4-2-3-1, because it it one of about three currently favoured systems across the world these days. People might want to get used to it.
No he did not score from running off the left. From the free kick he cruised up the inside left channel and then
to the right side of the penalty spot got he ball and scored from there.
Where do you think he is meant to operate in a left sided role if not linking from "the inside left channel" and then scoring? :ponder: :ponder:

Should he only score goals from the left?

As an inside out player on the left, Sunday's goal (technical quality of it aside) is EXACTLY the type of goal a player like Armstrong (a right footer) should be scoring when starting on the left side.

As is his shot against the post that led to Rogic's goal.

This would tend to show a player can play that position, but hey ho, it will all be down to the fact that Motherwell were awful, or something.
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Yeah, people need to stop perpetuating this myth that he can't or doesn't play from the left.

He was excellent playing from there on a few occasions for us and Utd, yesterday he was probably the best player on the park playing from there.

His issues have more been down to mentality and a slow-paced and dysfunctional midfield.
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No he did not score from running off the left. From the free kick he cruised up the inside left channel and then
to the right side of the penalty spot got he ball and scored from there.
Where do you think he is meant to operate in a left sided role if not linking from "the inside left channel" and then scoring? :ponder: :ponder:

Should he only score goals from the left?

As an inside out player on the left, Sunday's goal (technical quality of it aside) is EXACTLY the type of goal a player like Armstrong (a right footer) should be scoring when starting on the left side.

As is his shot against the post that led to Rogic's goal.

This would tend to show a player can play that position, but hey ho, it will all be down to the fact that Motherwell were awful, or something.
Twist it anyway you want mate your spin was that he came off the left (wing) to score. He did not.
He actually came from defending in his own 18 yard box at a corner and was moving upfield when we got a free kick
at around the halfway mark which led to the goal.
I am a fan of Armstrong and was merely pointing out how often he was playing infield and quite a few times through the center circle and
not as an out and out winger.
I think you have started an argument with yourself with " :ponder: :ponder: and should he only scores goals from the left"
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16 May 2016, 06:46 PM
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16 May 2016, 06:44 PM
Can see him and Christie becoming big players for us some of their link up play reminded me of Donnelly and McNamara in their Pom.
Donnelly had a pomp?? :ponder:


No.

Him and Jackie shared a Pom.



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17 May 2016, 04:36 AM

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Where do you think he is meant to operate in a left sided role if not linking from "the inside left channel" and then scoring? :ponder: :ponder:

Should he only score goals from the left?

As an inside out player on the left, Sunday's goal (technical quality of it aside) is EXACTLY the type of goal a player like Armstrong (a right footer) should be scoring when starting on the left side.

As is his shot against the post that led to Rogic's goal.

This would tend to show a player can play that position, but hey ho, it will all be down to the fact that Motherwell were awful, or something.
Twist it anyway you want mate your spin was that he came off the left (wing) to score. He did not.
He actually came from defending in his own 18 yard box at a corner and was moving upfield when we got a free kick
at around the halfway mark which led to the goal.
I am a fan of Armstrong and was merely pointing out how often he was playing infield and quite a few times through the center circle and
not as an out and out winger.
I think you have started an argument with yourself with " :ponder: :ponder: and should he only scores goals from the left"
Playing on the left of a 3 behind the striker isn't playing as an out and out winger.
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17 May 2016, 07:40 PM
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Twist it anyway you want mate your spin was that he came off the left (wing) to score. He did not.
He actually came from defending in his own 18 yard box at a corner and was moving upfield when we got a free kick
at around the halfway mark which led to the goal.
I am a fan of Armstrong and was merely pointing out how often he was playing infield and quite a few times through the center circle and
not as an out and out winger.
I think you have started an argument with yourself with " :ponder: :ponder: and should he only scores goals from the left"
Playing on the left of a 3 behind the striker isn't playing as an out and out winger.
Look mate there have been references since the start of this thread of him playing wide left
or left winger. I was only pointing out that he lined up out on the left on Sunday but the role he played was coming inside
frequently and to good effect as well. e.g. his goal.
I think you are agreeing with me :ponder:
At the end of the day the formation a team lines up in might not be the system the team plays. It also depends on the instructions
some players get from the manager on their role for that game.
For example under Stein (yep I go back that far and count my self lucky to see them play ) the team lined up 2 3 5. but that is not what they played. It was mostly 4 2 4 :thumbsup:
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weejimmy
17 May 2016, 06:14 PM
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17 May 2016, 10:30 AM
weejimmy
17 May 2016, 04:36 AM

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Where do you think he is meant to operate in a left sided role if not linking from "the inside left channel" and then scoring? :ponder: :ponder:

Should he only score goals from the left?

As an inside out player on the left, Sunday's goal (technical quality of it aside) is EXACTLY the type of goal a player like Armstrong (a right footer) should be scoring when starting on the left side.

As is his shot against the post that led to Rogic's goal.

This would tend to show a player can play that position, but hey ho, it will all be down to the fact that Motherwell were awful, or something.
Twist it anyway you want mate your spin was that he came off the left (wing) to score. He did not.
He actually came from defending in his own 18 yard box at a corner and was moving upfield when we got a free kick
at around the halfway mark which led to the goal.
I am a fan of Armstrong and was merely pointing out how often he was playing infield and quite a few times through the center circle and
not as an out and out winger.
I think you have started an argument with yourself with " :ponder: :ponder: and should he only scores goals from the left"
No I've not.

He did his job playing on the left, scoring, assisting and generally playing well. That seems to be inconvenient for some. :thumbsup:
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17 May 2016, 10:09 PM
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Twist it anyway you want mate your spin was that he came off the left (wing) to score. He did not.
He actually came from defending in his own 18 yard box at a corner and was moving upfield when we got a free kick
at around the halfway mark which led to the goal.
I am a fan of Armstrong and was merely pointing out how often he was playing infield and quite a few times through the center circle and
not as an out and out winger.
I think you have started an argument with yourself with " :ponder: :ponder: and should he only scores goals from the left"
No I've not.

He did his job playing on the left, scoring, assisting and generally playing well. That seems to be inconvenient for some. :thumbsup:
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16 May 2016, 04:11 PM
Play him in his correct position and you get what we paid big money for, he is a box to box player and I hope he kicks on from yesterday.
He played on the left yesterday, which is the exact same position he has played so poorly in this season.

His abject form this year has nothing to do with his position and everything to do with his mentality and ability to get himself involved in games (and also the fact that our midfield more generally has been totally dysfunctional all season).

He was excellent yesterday and I hope he can keep it up. But he needs to do it when the pressure is on.
This is it in a nutshell. Game suited him perfectly yesterday. No pressure, nice day on a bowling green of a pitch when the team in general were at it. He needs to toughen up and perform when it matters when the circumstances arent so friendly. He has ability but just needs to get nastier.
Not to mention the fact Well we're already on holiday by the looks of it.
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Armstrong looking like he's dropped way off the radar.
Another one, who needs to go to find gametime - as Brendan likes to put it?

Started at Hearts, replaced by Sinclair who scored.
Unused sub for Motherwell, Sinclair starts & scores.
Plays the whole game against Inter, along with Henderson, Christie & other Fringe players.
Dropped for HBS, both Henderson & Christie are on the bench.
Dropped for St Johnston, both Henderson & Christie come off the bench. Christie scores, Henderson gives away a penalty.

Looks like he's dropped waaay down in the pecking order. Christie looks better & Henderson has more energy & dig.

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Punt for me....

I remember, when we bought him, a mate who is an Arab fan, told me he made it known we were a stepping stone to the premiership for him :rubeyes:
Edited by k3vkr, 21 Aug 2016, 09:40 AM.
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21 Aug 2016, 09:31 AM
Armstrong looking like he's dropped way off the radar.
Another one, who needs to go to find gametime - as Brendan likes to put it?

Started at Hearts, replaced by Sinclair who scored.
Unused sub for Motherwell, Sinclair starts & scores.
Plays the whole game against Inter, along with Henderson, Christie & other Fringe players.
Dropped for HBS, both Henderson & Christie are on the bench.
Dropped for St Johnston, both Henderson & Christie come off the bench. Christie scores, Henderson gives away a penalty.

Looks like he's dropped waaay down in the pecking order. Christie looks better & Henderson has more energy & dig.

Is he not injured?
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Haven't heard anything about an injury.
Maybe?
I reckon he's surplus to requirements & Christie & Henderson have moved ahead of him as backup.
Obviously Sinclair has taken his place as first choice.
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21 Aug 2016, 09:39 AM
Punt for me....

I remember, when we bought him, a mate who is an Arab fan, told me he made it known we were a stepping stone to the premiership for him :rubeyes:
I think that would have been a fair outlook at the time, we want to be signing ambitious players whether the goal is Caps, European football every year or even ultimately a move to a top League.

Pity the performances haven't been there, hard to see it coming good and now seems the right time to part ways. Stuart needed to start well you think, just as Brown and Forrest have managed to.
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21 Aug 2016, 09:39 AM
Punt for me....

I remember, when we bought him, a mate who is an Arab fan, told me he made it known we were a stepping stone to the premiership for him :rubeyes:
I think the Arab fan is talking shampooe. He had the opportunity to sign for Burnley but opted for us instead IIRC.
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If Brendan can get the mouse hearted Forrest to actually try, he might get the player out of Stuart too
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21 Aug 2016, 10:11 AM
If Brendan can get the mouse hearted Forrest to actually try, he might get the player out of Stuart too
Forrest has always been a better player than Armstrong.

The players in the team now play at a level beyond the Dundee United boys.
Their days are numbered.
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Not sure that he'll go from first choice to being binned within the space of a fortnight. He has however gone from being first 11 to not making the 18 man squad and if we do sign more players it's not likely to aid his cause
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