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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,260 Views)
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Bobby Peru
8 May 2016, 07:45 PM
krungthep
8 May 2016, 07:38 PM
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8 May 2016, 04:13 PM
That pish has been done to death on here, he played wide left for Dundee Utd in most of his games.
Revisionist, made up nonsense. A myth.

You repeating it over and over doesn't make it more true.

He regards himself as a central midfielder and is unhappy at being played out of position.

He clearly doesn't play there and it is affecting his confidence.

Bad management.

http://www.tictactic.co.uk/dundee-utd-2-2-celtic-2-conceded-2-points-dropped-5-points/

Here is a review of a match he played wide left against us.
A match. Fine.

To suggest he was a 'left midfielder' for Dundee Utd is simply untrue,

Left midfield, was not, is not and never has been his position.

Perhaps he has played there.

No doubt he can play there when a manager is in a hole.

It doesn't mean he *should* play there.

To slaughter him for playing badly in a position he hates and doesn't feel comfortable in is bizarre.
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krungthep
8 May 2016, 08:53 PM
Bobby Peru
8 May 2016, 07:45 PM
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8 May 2016, 07:38 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
http://www.tictactic.co.uk/dundee-utd-2-2-celtic-2-conceded-2-points-dropped-5-points/

Here is a review of a match he played wide left against us.
A match. Fine.

To suggest he was a 'left midfielder' for Dundee Utd is simply untrue,

Left midfield, was not, is not and never has been his position.

Perhaps he has played there.

No doubt he can play there when a manager is in a hole.

It doesn't mean he *should* play there.

To slaughter him for playing badly in a position he hates and doesn't feel comfortable in is bizarre.
He played there fairly often though.

The games he has played in the middle for us he has been the same, an ok player, a good squad player but the kind of player we should be producing ourselves and selling on rather than bringing in from elsewhere.
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No pace and no skill, no way should this guy be near a starting eleven,

Called it wrong with the guy, players know him inside oot.

Mind you, I thought Cifti would do a job for us.

The eff do I know.
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8 May 2016, 07:29 PM
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8 May 2016, 06:58 PM
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8 May 2016, 06:40 PM
Thought he had a good first half, tired/drifted out of it in the second.

He should not be playing on the left, or on a wing in general . Would like to see him play him in the role that made us stump up the cash for him.
That would be wide left :brickwall:
No, it wasn't. I was at Tannadice before Christmas last year and he played very well (and scored the winning goal) from playing off Ciftçi. Erskine and Spittal were the wingers.

Also saw him break through and score a very good goal against us at CP in 2013 when we beat them 6-2, again, from a central position off the striker.

We did not buy him thinking he was a left midfielder or a winger. If we did, then we are absolute mugs.
So that's twice you seen him play in the middle then. He's played about 4 times there for us and wasn't great.
Every time I seen him play for Utd he played on the left :thumbsup:
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He's a much better player than he's shown this season. It's disappointing.
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krungthep
8 May 2016, 07:38 PM
AtLeastIDontWorkInAmazon
8 May 2016, 04:13 PM
That pish has been done to death on here, he played wide left for Dundee Utd in most of his games.
Revisionist, made up nonsense. A myth.

You repeating it over and over doesn't make it more true.

He regards himself as a central midfielder and is unhappy at being played out of position.

He clearly doesn't play there and it is affecting his confidence.

Bad management.

Revisionist?
You then go on to regale us with a story that is complete bollocks :lmao:
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krungthep
8 May 2016, 08:53 PM
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8 May 2016, 07:45 PM
krungthep
8 May 2016, 07:38 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
http://www.tictactic.co.uk/dundee-utd-2-2-celtic-2-conceded-2-points-dropped-5-points/

Here is a review of a match he played wide left against us.
A match. Fine.

To suggest he was a 'left midfielder' for Dundee Utd is simply untrue,

Left midfield, was not, is not and never has been his position.

Perhaps he has played there.

No doubt he can play there when a manager is in a hole.

It doesn't mean he *should* play there.

To slaughter him for playing badly in a position he hates and doesn't feel comfortable in is bizarre.
I couldn't give a eff if he's unhappy playing there, fact is he played there for Dundee Utd.
So he played on the left many, many times.
You having a mental breakdown online isn't going to change that fact.

Edit: I've also not "slaughtered him" you effing drama queen :lol:

Edited by AtLeastIDontWorkInAmazon, 8 May 2016, 09:08 PM.
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8 May 2016, 07:42 PM
Stuart Armstrong is an excellent player and will come good for us.
Thats the spirit.
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He made 6/7/8/9 good runs in the first half that went totally unnoticed by whoever had the ball.

Drifted right out of it second half, but then so did out whole team.

Him throwing two hands in the air at a corner means he's going to hit the first man with it.
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No, it wasn't. I was at Tannadice before Christmas last year and he played very well (and scored the winning goal) from playing off Ciftçi. Erskine and Spittal were the wingers.

Also saw him break through and score a very good goal against us at CP in 2013 when we beat them 6-2, again, from a central position off the striker.

We did not buy him thinking he was a left midfielder or a winger. If we did, then we are absolute mugs.
So that's twice you seen him play in the middle then. He's played about 4 times there for us and wasn't great.
Every time I seen him play for Utd he played on the left :thumbsup:
No, that's two times I seen him be effective against us in a central role, amongst others.

When we signed GMS and Armstrong on the same day, did you genuinely think we were signing two guys who would be vying for wide midfield roles?
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Actually thought he done not bad today on the whole but not sure he's got the mentality to be an important player for us.
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So that's twice you seen him play in the middle then. He's played about 4 times there for us and wasn't great.
Every time I seen him play for Utd he played on the left :thumbsup:
No, that's two times I seen him be effective against us in a central role, amongst others.

When we signed GMS and Armstrong on the same day, did you genuinely think we were signing two guys who would be vying for wide midfield roles?
Ive no idea why you are mentioning GMS at all. But yes I knew that he'd play wide as that's where he plays, he's a winger!

As for Armstrong, yes I expected him to play on the left as that's where he played with DU.
I wasn't alone in thinking that either, as it was mentioned multiple times by many different people that we finally had someone to play wide left.
The fact that he played on the left has been confirmed by many people on here now. Really have no idea why there's denial about it all?
That's where he played.
He actually played well last season for us there, now he's not playing well and it's the managers fault as he's playing out of position :ponder:
He also done an interview recently were he spoke about finding it mentally tough playing for us, nothing about playing out of position. He's struggling, it happens and he might not have the mentality to play for a club like ours.
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Hoping the new manager gets the best out of him, a real player in there no doubt.
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McStay
8 May 2016, 08:59 PM
He's a much better player than he's shown this season. It's disappointing.
Much better would be an exaggeration.

Hopefully Armstrong will be a squad player next season, while contributing more than he's done this season.
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8 May 2016, 07:38 PM
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8 May 2016, 04:13 PM
That pish has been done to death on here, he played wide left for Dundee Utd in most of his games.
Revisionist, made up nonsense. A myth.

You repeating it over and over doesn't make it more true.

He regards himself as a central midfielder and is unhappy at being played out of position.

He clearly doesn't play there and it is affecting his confidence.

Bad management.

Revisionist?
You then go on to regale us with a story that is complete bollocks :lmao:
You seem to think adopting the tone of a keyboard hardman gives your ignorance a bit more clout.

It doesn't.
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8 May 2016, 10:01 PM
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8 May 2016, 08:59 PM

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No, that's two times I seen him be effective against us in a central role, amongst others.

When we signed GMS and Armstrong on the same day, did you genuinely think we were signing two guys who would be vying for wide midfield roles?
Ive no idea why you are mentioning GMS at all. But yes I knew that he'd play wide as that's where he plays, he's a winger!

As for Armstrong, yes I expected him to play on the left as that's where he played with DU.
I wasn't alone in thinking that either, as it was mentioned multiple times by many different people that we finally had someone to play wide left.
The fact that he played on the left has been confirmed by many people on here now. Really have no idea why there's denial about it all?
That's where he played.
He actually played well last season for us there, now he's not playing well and it's the managers fault as he's playing out of position :ponder:
He also done an interview recently were he spoke about finding it mentally tough playing for us, nothing about playing out of position. He's struggling, it happens and he might not have the mentality to play for a club like ours.
I metioned GMS because when we signed the pair, I personally thought we were signing one wide player (GMS) and one predominately central player in Armstrong. Had I thought we were signing two players who would spend most of their time playing out wide, I probably wouldn't have been as keen on the move as I was at the time.

I'm not denying he played out there, or that he can do a shift there for us, as he is currently. In fact, I thought he was one of our better players in what was a very good all round team performance in today's first half.

However, when I saw him play for Utd against as and at various other points, I always felt his best work was done in a more central role. Given how much Deila has tinkered and tweaked the team this year, I think it's a reasonable suggestion to maybe have seen how he would have done in the middle :thumbsup:

Edited by san meegs, 8 May 2016, 10:14 PM.
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His best performance for us to date, against Inter, was on the left.

He hasn't looked fit for spells this year, and that's perhaps affected his form. But he also seems to be a bit weak mentally and not strong or assertive enough for a central midfield role. A fresh start for him next season and hopefully we'll see a clearer picture.
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Quoting limited to 3 levels deephttp://www.tictactic.co.uk/dundee-utd-2-2-celtic-2-conceded-2-points-dropped-5-points/

Here is a review of a match he played wide left against us.
A match. Fine.

To suggest he was a 'left midfielder' for Dundee Utd is simply untrue,

Left midfield, was not, is not and never has been his position.

Perhaps he has played there.

No doubt he can play there when a manager is in a hole.

It doesn't mean he *should* play there.

To slaughter him for playing badly in a position he hates and doesn't feel comfortable in is bizarre.
I couldn't give a eff if he's unhappy playing there, fact is he played there for Dundee Utd.
So he played on the left many, many times.
You having a mental breakdown online isn't going to change that fact.

Edit: I've also not "slaughtered him" you effing drama queen :lol:

You don't seem fhe sharpest tool in the box bud, so let's spell it out for you.

He may have played a few games at left midfield for Dundee United.

That doesn't make him a left midfielder any more than Tommy Burns was a lett back when he played there to cover for injury.

He hates it, he doesn't think he is a left midfielder.

Ergo he is not a left midfielder. Amd wasn't signed as one.

Keep shouting and abusing folk as loud as you like.

It still won't make you right.👍.
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