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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,265 Views)
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Bought entirely on the strength of his best performances in the centre of the Dundee United midfield.

Has played almost solely on the left side of an attacking three.

Hard enough to settle in at Celtic without being played out of position.

He is deeply frustrated people are judging him in a position he never played in his life.

Rightly imho.
I don't buy that at all.

He's not being asked to play as a winger. How can playing 10/15 yards to the left so badly affect his touch, passing and decision making?

Brown, Ledley, Petrov, Nakamura. There's 4 guys who would prefer to play centrally who had decent success wide (all in a 4 man midfield where there's more expectation to stay wide).
Brown, Ledley and Petrov were hardly ever asked to play out of position.

And when they were they were hardly a roaring success.

You are revising history.
I've seen Brown play LB, RB and he spent near a whole season at RM. Ledley played LB and LM, Petrov played wing back and Nakamura spent nealry 4 years on the right for us.
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Armstrong is a passive bang average player, who varies between decent and mediocre.

Standards have declined.
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Brown, Ledley and Petrov were hardly ever asked to play out of position.

And when they were they were hardly a roaring success.

You are revising history.
I've seen Brown play LB, RB and he spent near a whole season at RM. Ledley played LB and LM, Petrov played wing back and Nakamura spent nealry 4 years on the right for us.
So why doesn't Scott Brown play LB or RB now? Or right midfield?

Why didn't Joe Ledley stay at left-back?

And why did Petrov make it perfectly clear he hated playing right midfield?

Possibly because it wasn"t their natural positions, it didn't do them justice, they didn't feel comfortable and it did the team mo good whatsoever.

Similar to Stuart Armstrong infact.

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Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
I've seen Brown play LB, RB and he spent near a whole season at RM. Ledley played LB and LM, Petrov played wing back and Nakamura spent nealry 4 years on the right for us.
So why doesn't Scott Brown play LB or RB now? Or right midfield?

Why didn't Joe Ledley stay at left-back?

And why did Petrov make it perfectly clear he hated playing right midfield?

Possibly because it wasn"t their natural positions, it didn't do them justice, they didn't feel comfortable and it did the team mo good whatsoever.

Similar to Stuart Armstrong infact.

Because they were played well out of position, Armstrong is playing a position that he has plenty in the past and has had a whole year at Celtic playing on the left. As Stringer Bell said above, it isn't wide left, it's15 yards from where he would like to be. He played well enough there this time last year.
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The guy is being wasted out wide.

If we wanted a wide player why did we not buy one rather than buying a central midfielder to play there?
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His touch can be pretty shocking. Obviously struggling with confidence. He played well enough on the left side of midfield last season so I'm not buying the argument that he's being played out of position.
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Dundee United over the past few years played a 4-2-3-1 with Paton/Gomis and Rankin as the central midfield pairing.

Gauld/Dow in behind Cifti/Goodwillie with GMS on the right and Armstrong on the left. It's a myth he was a central midfielder for Dundee Utd. If it happened it was an exception and certainly not where he made his name.
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Brown, Ledley and Petrov were hardly ever asked to play out of position.

And when they were they were hardly a roaring success.

You are revising history.
I've seen Brown play LB, RB and he spent near a whole season at RM. Ledley played LB and LM, Petrov played wing back and Nakamura spent nealry 4 years on the right for us.
Brown's shampoo.

Some laugh bringing him up as an example.
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I've seen Brown play LB, RB and he spent near a whole season at RM. Ledley played LB and LM, Petrov played wing back and Nakamura spent nealry 4 years on the right for us.
Brown's shampoo.

Some laugh bringing him up as an example.
:lol: FFS
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He's been terrible this season, no doubt, but there's still a player in there, IMO. Just needs dropped and the others given their chance.

Don't care where he played for United. It's clear for all to see that his game is more suited to playing in the middle of the park. Although you wouldn't know it watching him recently he's good on the ball and can see a pass. Much like Allan I don't think we'll ever see the best of them when they're played wide.
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Brown's shampoo.

Some laugh bringing him up as an example.
:lol: FFS
That's me told.

His technical ability is so limited it's unbelievable. But hey, he'll run around a lot and he's a wind up merchant so let's all do the Broony.
Edited by McStay, 21 Feb 2016, 06:36 PM.
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Armstrong is a passive bang average player, who varies between decent and mediocre.

Standards have declined.
Standards have slipped on here with that horrendous 'bang average' patter.

Get it to eff Mods.
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:lol: FFS
That's me told.

His technical ability is so limited it's unbelievable. But hey, he'll run around a lot and he's a wind up merchant so let's all do the Broony.
Keep digging :lol:
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That's me told.

His technical ability is so limited it's unbelievable. But hey, he'll run around a lot and he's a wind up merchant so let's all do the Broony.
Keep digging :lol:
Was only stating my opinion :thumbsup:
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:lol: FFS
That's me told.

His technical ability is so limited it's unbelievable. But hey, he'll run around a lot and he's a wind up merchant so let's all do the Broony.
POTM :worthy:
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Armstrong is a passive bang average player, who varies between decent and mediocre.

Standards have declined.
Standards have slipped on here with that horrendous 'bang average' patter.

Get it to eff Mods.
It's not patter, he is bang average.

And that's being kind to Armstrong.
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Keep digging :lol:
Was only stating my opinion :thumbsup:
And people have every right to laugh at it, especially as it's nonsense. He was honking yesterday but once he's back to match sharpness we'll see the player that should have won POTY last season.

Although he was far from natural on the right that season he played really well, because he's good enough to deal with it.

Armstrong has played left in the 3 behind a striker and has shown hes good at it, he's just been poor this season. No excuses, Stokes was there before we signed Armstrong yet still scored and chipped in with assists. He needs to be droppped.
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Armstrong is a passive bang average player, who varies between decent and mediocre.

Standards have declined.
Standards have slipped on here with that horrendous 'bang average' patter.

Get it to eff Mods.
It's not patter, he is bang average.

And that's being kind to Armstrong.
What's the difference between 'average' and 'bang average'?
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It's not patter, he is bang average.

And that's being kind to Armstrong.
What's the difference between 'average' and 'bang average'?
"bang".
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My biggest problem with armstrong is when he loses the ball , he makes no effort whatsoever too track back and recover his poor touch or poor pass. I have seen it a few times in the past few matches , it shows a complete lack of desire and laziness. Not good enough at all.
Edited by KrnyBhoy, 21 Feb 2016, 07:21 PM.
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