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Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal.
Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (730,968 Views)
idyllwild


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23 Jun 2018, 07:57 AM
Good luck to him, always liked Armstrong as a player.

Fair play to him for wanting to test himself against better players & earning a fortune while doing it.

Edit: Sutton just looks/sounds like a gobshampooe with those comments.
Agree. Armstrong’s “problem” is that he wasn’t a badge-kisser. Came in, kept his head down and got on with it, and is now moving on to a better league to earn more money.

Football’s an emotional game and I guess we hope players show some of that too, but I’d prefer they were honest and don’t bluff it. It’s a job to them no matter how much they proclaim to love the club.

Good luck to him.
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Wasn’t a big fan. His passing wasn’t good enough, particularly in the big games, to be a central midfielder. He can run though so will probably do well enough down there. Great price for him. All the best Stuart. Thanks for bringing my 5-1 bet home.
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Wish him all the best for the future. Played his part.
Always felt he would move when it suited him. Was told by an Arab with connections to the family, when he signed, that there was no love for Celtic there. But that's football.
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idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:06 AM
Lester Burnham
23 Jun 2018, 07:57 AM
Good luck to him, always liked Armstrong as a player.

Fair play to him for wanting to test himself against better players & earning a fortune while doing it.

Edit: Sutton just looks/sounds like a gobshampooe with those comments.
Agree. Armstrong’s “problem” is that he wasn’t a badge-kisser. Came in, kept his head down and got on with it, and is now moving on to a better league to earn more money.

Football’s an emotional game and I guess we hope players show some of that too, but I’d prefer they were honest and don’t bluff it. It’s a job to them no matter how much they proclaim to love the club.

Good luck to him.
Nail on the head.

I don’t remember hearing him or his agent saying anything about new contracts, wanting away, etc. I also can’t remember him complaining about being played out of position or not featuring last season.

He’s been great value for us & he’s now going to double his salary / play in the “greatest league in the world🤮” off the back of his time here.

Nothing but best wishes from me.

My primary concern is we use the £7m properly.
Edited by Tam Haas, 23 Jun 2018, 08:18 AM.
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While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
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23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
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idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:06 AM
Lester Burnham
23 Jun 2018, 07:57 AM
Good luck to him, always liked Armstrong as a player.

Fair play to him for wanting to test himself against better players & earning a fortune while doing it.

Edit: Sutton just looks/sounds like a gobshampooe with those comments.
Agree. Armstrong’s “problem” is that he wasn’t a badge-kisser. Came in, kept his head down and got on with it, and is now moving on to a better league to earn more money.

Football’s an emotional game and I guess we hope players show some of that too, but I’d prefer they were honest and don’t bluff it. It’s a job to them no matter how much they proclaim to love the club.

Good luck to him.
Not sure why so much is made of him not being a Celtic fan. Few of our players were. No one talks about Gordon or Brown not being Celtic fans. Griffiths gets a bit of stick for being a Hibs fan but it’s generally not used against him in questions about his commitment to us.
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idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM
echohead
23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
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People on here seem very money obsessed. The general consensus seems to be that we are well rid of a player who didn't want to play for us. Loads felt if we got £3m for him that would be decent so the talk in the media that it's more than that would have you thinking it's a decent deal.

In other contexts the saying is "it's not what you've got, but what you do with it. "
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Cup final goal :wub:
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Sutton's good riddance is a nonsense. Armstrong doing exactly what he's entitled to with no emotional attachment to Celtic. Away to treble his wages likely.

The type of player he was needs replaced. I think McGinn would be a drop in quality but I'd expect it to happen now.

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Juneau
23 Jun 2018, 08:36 AM
idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM
echohead
23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
Petrov would have been paid a helluva lot more than Armstrong would be.

Petrov was a main player
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23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM

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Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
Petrov would have been paid a helluva lot more than Armstrong would be.

Petrov was a main player
Petrov also gave us what 7 years?
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23 Jun 2018, 08:36 AM
idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM
echohead
23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
Exactly.

Don't like all this "badge kisser" patter anyway.
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Juneau
23 Jun 2018, 08:36 AM
idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM
echohead
23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
Don’t think there was any uncertainty. He could have signed a longer deal with a buy out clause or with a ‘gentleman’s agreement’ that he could go this summer.

The two year deal was more certain. He committed for two more seasons meaning that we’d get probably one more season for in him and a fee. I think that’s pretty honest and straightforward.

I can understand some fans taking issue that not all of our key players don’t want to stay with us for the rest of their careers (or until they lose form and can be punted) but there was annoyance at Petrov for signing a long deal then pushing for a move not long after.
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23 Jun 2018, 08:36 AM
idyllwild
23 Jun 2018, 08:28 AM
echohead
23 Jun 2018, 08:22 AM
While it is right to wish Armstrong all the best and acknowledge he was a good player who was professional etc, it's worth remembering other players who have given so much more to the club in similar situations, like Stan Petrov.
I think you’ve proven the point I was making. Petrov did exactly what Armstrong did, on top of which he threw a bit of a strop. But he was/is seen as a guy who loves Celtic, therefore you think he gave so much more when he was angling for a move.
Did Petrov not sign a longer deal though which covered both his and Celtic's interests with the security? Armstrong's 12 month extension just caused uncertaintity.
Aye, but as with Armstrong no-one was under the impression that he would actually stay.

I don’t think Armstrong was a particularly great player, but some of the abuse he’s getting does seem very personal. Sutton in particular has an effin brass neck. If Armstrong had shat the bed at Ibrox, downed tools and tried to get himself sent off, then I might take Sutton’s opinion seriously.
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Did we sell the rights to his song too?
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23 Jun 2018, 07:50 AM

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In the same article he states we must keep Boyata having previously slated him on a regular basis. I loved him as a player but can't be bothered with him now. It's all about him being noticed as opposed to being objective and consistent.
Armstrong served us well and is leaving us with both club and player profiting. Win win.
Sutton makes a decent point though - Boyata is settled at Celtic and we need that stability for the qualifiers.

Keeping a settled Boyata for the CL qualifiers - whilst noting his mistakes over the last 2-3 years - are not contradictory positions.

If we get £7m, he can go to though :thumbsup:


I get that point if you ignore Sutton's continual sensationalism when Boyata makes a mistake. Personally I would keep Boyata. During the invincible year from December on he was our best central defender and popped up with a couple of match winning goals also.
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If you go per minute he scored a goal every 3.6 games according to transfermarkt. He was useful when on form. Hopefully we get someone in who can score from midfield, we weren’t exactly awash with goals last season.
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Did we sell the rights to his song too?
No, I believe they've been retained. I think they are worth around £3m alone or more like £7m depending on what paper you read.
Edited by searcher52, 23 Jun 2018, 09:29 AM.
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