Celtic Database at thecelticwiki.com
All
Celtic
World Cup 2018
Tickets/Travel
Wiki
General
Sport
F&D
Entertainment
Travel
Tipsters
Tech
| Welcome to Kerrydale Street. We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you decide to register, please be aware that we don't accept email addresses from free web accounts like gmail, Hotmail, live.co.uk etc. Sorry, but almost all of the abuse and spam that we get is from free web accounts. The software on the forum will automatically block any requests using a free email account. Upon Registration, you will be given access to all our varied Forums, and you will be expected to comply with our fairly stringent Rules and Regulations. Meantime, enjoy your visit If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Stuart Armstrong; 'Fishel: Signs for Southampton on a 4 year deal. | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: 18 Oct 2015, 09:50 PM (731,266 Views) | |
| Bundy1967 | 20 Feb 2016, 01:21 PM Post #621 |
|
First-team starter
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Thought he was quite honest about how he's struggling to adapt and knows he's not playing well it seems |
![]() |
|
| ChiliPepper | 21 Feb 2016, 03:46 AM Post #622 |
|
Getting on a bit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Think he's got until summer to save his career (at Celtic at least). So much ability and was excellent when he joined and considering his size and build could and should be a nightmare for fullbacks. But he just looks disinterested and, well, pish recently. Absolutely shot of any confidence. He needs dropped. Hopefully Ronny does a Griffiths on him. Horrible seeing a player go through what Armstrong's going through; all the potential but just can't stop getting it wrong. Must be eating him up inside. Edit: http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/topic/9219259/89/ Reading this makes me want to greet. Edited by ChiliPepper, 21 Feb 2016, 04:01 AM.
|
![]() |
|
| Paul Allen | 21 Feb 2016, 04:35 AM Post #623 |
|
Occasional Substitute
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
There's a player in there and don't think anyone should give up on him yet. The issues seems to be mental more than ability so that's something that can be overcome. |
![]() |
|
| SgtOddball | 21 Feb 2016, 12:56 PM Post #624 |
![]()
First-team starter
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I think the biggest issue is where he is playing. It's obvious he's never going to make it on the left wing with us. |
![]() |
|
| timsRus | 21 Feb 2016, 01:02 PM Post #625 |
|
Occasional Substitute
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Far too passive ... Not enough agression - he'll struggle until he gets that side of his game sorted |
![]() |
|
| Annoni's Magic Gloves | 21 Feb 2016, 01:17 PM Post #626 |
![]()
Everyone's Fantasy Football first pick
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
The general consensus seems to be that Armstrong is a good player, but he's not showing it just now. Genuine question: what do people see as his best qualities? What is he good at? I can't think of one thing about him that stands out. I think I want him to be good, and I've sort of convinced myself along the same lines as everyone else, but I'm struggling to objectively justify my own opinion. |
![]() |
|
| Hagi Bhoy | 21 Feb 2016, 01:50 PM Post #627 |
![]()
Off treasure hunting in Holland
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
He's a decent all-rounder but right now his touch and passing aren't good enough. |
![]() |
|
| Luca | 21 Feb 2016, 01:53 PM Post #628 |
|
Off treasure hunting in Holland
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
He's bit like a poor man's Phil O'Donnell at the moment - should be more direct in his runs and scoring more |
![]() |
|
| Stringer Bell | 21 Feb 2016, 01:58 PM Post #629 |
|
Getting on a bit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I realised this about him a while back. I think putting him in the middle would be the worst thing we could do at the moment. I think his confidence is impacting the, fairly limited, ability he has. We can't hang around waiting for him to grow a set and sort his head out, though. |
![]() |
|
| Luca | 21 Feb 2016, 02:10 PM Post #630 |
|
Off treasure hunting in Holland
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Was he MOTM against Inter? |
![]() |
|
| AntonRogansRightBoot | 21 Feb 2016, 02:44 PM Post #631 |
|
It's just there for standing on
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
The Phil O'Donnell comparison isn't far off the mark. He's got great timing of runs to arrive in the box at the right time and should be up around 10 goals every season, maybe more. It's just not coming off for him at the moment. There's definitely a player there, but it's just all going wrong at the moment. |
![]() |
|
| Govan Super Casino | 21 Feb 2016, 02:46 PM Post #632 |
![]()
Retired and now a BT Sports pundit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Last season he was driving at players when he had the ball, made good runs into the box and had good vision. Seemed to pop up in the right areas. This season he looks well short of confidence, his passing and shooting have been poor. The poster above mentioned aggression, definitely something he lacks. Looked to be getting some form back a few weeks ago but he wouldn't make the bench if I was picking the team atm. |
![]() |
|
| krungthep | 21 Feb 2016, 02:53 PM Post #633 |
|
Mickey
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Bought entirely on the strength of his best performances in the centre of the Dundee United midfield. Has played almost solely on the left side of an attacking three. Hard enough to settle in at Celtic without being played out of position. He is deeply frustrated people are judging him in a position he never played in his life. Rightly imho. Edited by krungthep, 21 Feb 2016, 02:54 PM.
|
![]() |
|
| columbo | 21 Feb 2016, 03:06 PM Post #634 |
|
Club Captain
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Feel a bit for him - obviously not enjoying things. Looks to be gripped by fear or lack of confidence - cannot hope to perform like that. I would have said the same about GMS until recently but he seems to be finding his feet again. Don't think it has helped him to be playing every week as his assurance ebbs away and the crowd gets grumpier with him. |
![]() |
|
| Stringer Bell | 21 Feb 2016, 03:09 PM Post #635 |
|
Getting on a bit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I don't buy that at all. He's not being asked to play as a winger. How can playing 10/15 yards to the left so badly affect his touch, passing and decision making? Brown, Ledley, Petrov, Nakamura. There's 4 guys who would prefer to play centrally who had decent success wide (all in a 4 man midfield where there's more expectation to stay wide). |
![]() |
|
| Quiet Assasin | 21 Feb 2016, 03:16 PM Post #636 |
|
..for the maintenance of dinner tables for the children and the unemployed
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
He played the position he is playing for us plenty for United. He's a talented player but he can't hack it mentally at the moment. There have been games where he's been clearly hiding and that's unforgivable. That he plays week in, week out is baffling. I can only assume Deila is trying to play him through his funk but we don't have enough players on form to carry a passenger. |
![]() |
|
| only1henke | 21 Feb 2016, 04:29 PM Post #637 |
|
Getting on a bit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Passive is the right word. If you could give him Scott Brown's mentality he'd be excellent, but he seems to shrink when he puts the jersey on. |
![]() |
|
| krungthep | 21 Feb 2016, 05:35 PM Post #638 |
|
Mickey
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Brown, Ledley and Petrov were hardly ever asked to play out of position. And when they were they were hardly a roaring success. You are revising history. Edited by krungthep, 21 Feb 2016, 05:35 PM.
|
![]() |
|
| Stringer Bell | 21 Feb 2016, 05:43 PM Post #639 |
|
Getting on a bit
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I actually think Browns best form was on the right of a four. The pertinent point is their differing levels of ability to control the ball and make passes wasn't deterred by playing wider. |
![]() |
|
| Bloater | 21 Feb 2016, 05:45 PM Post #640 |
|
First-team starter
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Sorry mate but he was picked to play for Scotland at youth level as a left sided midfielder - the position he played when he was up in Aberdeen with Dyce Boys and played there plenty for Dundee United. Didn't get much of a look in with the Scotland thing as he was too soft and as someone else said too passive. Really nice guy but never going to be the player folk expect. |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| Go to Next Page | |
| « Previous Topic · Celtic Football Club Discussion Forum · Next Topic » |





![]](http://z5.ifrm.com/static/1/pip_r.png)







9:00 AM Jul 11